Black Widow Capture?

I Might Avenge U

I Might Avenge U

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Does anybody know the general Spider Capping build and whatnot? I'm just curious, as I might try to go and capture a black Widow with a friend, And I want to know if there's a good ranger build, and map route. I'm pretty sure it's not very easy, so any help is appreciated..

Holz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

No offense, but I don't see much input coming from you in this thread. A simple "black widow" search on wiki tells me the following information: The Black Widows spawn next to Reapers, when you complete their quests. The easiest quets to complete is the one of the Reaper of the Forgotten Vale, which is located southwest to the entrance point. Wiki also gives you the advice to kill of everything in the Forgotten Vale before you take his quest. I'd say, go with (if possible) a full 8 man party, maybe with a bonder that bonds the tank. Try to go with your guildies, I don't think it's that hard in NM .

royal mercenary

royal mercenary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Glob Of Ectospasm [GoE]

Me/Rt

or just ask a spider run .

White_Chaos

White_Chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Evrope

You could done it with 3/4-man trapper team (not sure about 2man), never done it thou, but I nearly done but we got killed by 2*Coldfire and earth smaller brother of them, because I forgotten to order team to trap there patrol path :P, but the main problem is that some spirits spawn on a hill outside the village, so you will have to bow them or kill coldfires to get to them

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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I've been after a dire black widow for about 2 weeks now but for some reason the last 5 runs it's been elder or some other at most of the statues.

bawLa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

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Well, to cap a spider, first of course you clear the first area, then go straight and kill everything around the terrorwebs and then eventually kill the terrorwebs. then have 1 person back by the dude that comes out of the ground when u kill the terrorwebs. go to the left and when u get there kill the aatxes then leave the first group of graspings alive(to make sure u dont fail the quest u get later on) then kill the 2nd and 3rd group of graspings. kill the 2 groups of coldfires that patrol close to the monument. then back away from the monument a little and have the guy that waited back take the quest Restoring the Monuments of Grenth. kill the terrorwebs and take the quest from the reaper now just kill all the bad tortured spirit guys and when ur done the spider will be there by the monument in the forgotten vale. and if u can understand anything i typed there, GJ.

helloworld

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SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Would it be worth trying to tag along with UW-farmers.... or don't they go far enough in to deal with the quest to get the spiders?

White_Chaos

White_Chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Evrope

uw farmers mostly go the other way towards smites
still guild farmers could make you a favor

Bruce Leeroy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

I capped spiders for all myself and all my heroes just for the heck of it. I went with 2 heroes and the 3rd spider capping hero. I brought a life barrier bonder and a SS hero with AV/SV. The 3rd hero who capped the spider always brought Famine.

To cap the spider, it takes about 25Min. You need to know the spawns and where to plant your heroes just out of aggro range so they come in to help after you hold aggro. One key step is to clear out the Vale before you take Restoring the Monuments quest. Also when doing Tortured Spirits, drop the bonds on yourself and bond a couple of the good spirits.

I Might Avenge U

I Might Avenge U

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Lol, I tried to solo cap the spider ( I'm running low on money ) using this build : http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/...peed_Trap_Solo

Exchanging: [skill]Barbed Trap[/skill] for [skill]Charm animal[/skill]


Took me an hour to get to Reaper of the labyrinths.. I think I might take Jin for some extra traps, a rez, and some various other things... Hopefully it'll go much faster >.<

Anywho, Thanks to everyone who responded, and I know it is quite taboo, but I don't head to the UW every day, so I'm still get used to it >.<

The Mancer Man

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Got my Dire Black Widow today

Went with a friend - both trappers - we also took 3 heroes each to help kill the terrorwebs and the tortured souls. Everything else we just trapped!
Very simple! Didnt time it but was done with a minimum of fuss.
In fact we did it again to get another spider for my mate.
More than happy to assist if anyone needs help - and it would be for free!!!

Two proud owners of two Dire Black Widows!!!!

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mancer Man
Got my Dire Black Widow today

Went with a friend - both trappers - we also took 3 heroes each to help kill the terrorwebs and the tortured souls. Everything else we just trapped!
Very simple! Didnt time it but was done with a minimum of fuss.
In fact we did it again to get another spider for my mate.
More than happy to assist if anyone needs help - and it would be for free!!!

Two proud owners of two Dire Black Widows!!!! IGN?
If you're available at the right time, I might try taking you up on that offer somewhat later for my Ranger... once I can get her to somewhere where she might actually access the Underworld...
Then again... maybe my Assassin could go Pseudo-Ranger and get the Spidey treatment? Oddly enough, he DOES have quite a lot of trap-skills unlocked (including Dust Trap).

Inra

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

I've done this with A/R (critical barrager) and three henchies:
Bonder/Prot,
Heal,
Sword Tank (i was inspirated by Helloword post ).
Bonds + Recall + Dark Escape allow you to kill all pop-ups, then, after switching bonds to tank you can take rest of mobs (flag him, allow him to get aggro and slowely move closer with monks). For me most annoying were Coldfires with their Malestorm (it makes tank-hero to loose aggro).

I Might Avenge U

I Might Avenge U

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mancer Man
Got my Dire Black Widow today

Went with a friend - both trappers - we also took 3 heroes each to help kill the terrorwebs and the tortured souls. Everything else we just trapped!
Very simple! Didnt time it but was done with a minimum of fuss.
In fact we did it again to get another spider for my mate.
More than happy to assist if anyone needs help - and it would be for free!!!

Two proud owners of two Dire Black Widows!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
IGN?
If you're available at the right time, I might try taking you up on that offer somewhat later for my Ranger... once I can get her to somewhere where she might actually access the Underworld...
Then again... maybe my Assassin could go Pseudo-Ranger and get the Spidey treatment? Oddly enough, he DOES have quite a lot of trap-skills unlocked (including Dust Trap). Lets get a group together, and head down there around 2pm PST?

RainwalkerC

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

in fear

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hmmm... i would like to cap some for my toons, pm me sometimes?
ign: azure tears

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

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Originally Posted by I Might Avenge U
Lets get a group together, and head down there around 2pm PST? *Does the maths*

Thats around 10pm in Britain.... right? I believe that be right...
I should be able to manage it.

Will it be alright if I go as an Assassin (Hyun Chae Soon) pretending to be a Ranger? I won't be very good at the trapping, but assuming that the thing can be done THEORETICALLY solo... then surely every extra trap helps... right?

If you'd sooner then I can just go standard assassin or put up one of the rather tougher builds. I reckon I could manage a pure Assassin Moebius build with the free slot for spidey-capping.

It'd just be that my Ranger primary (Hyun Soo Kim) isn't anything like ready yet... and it'll be a while before I'm ready to take her into the Underworld.

Anyway.... fine by me.

I Might Avenge U

I Might Avenge U

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I Don't Want to the thread as it isn't nessecary, so I'll just Edit this Post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soticoto
*Does the maths*

Thats around 10pm in Britain.... right? I believe that be right...
I should be able to manage it.

Will it be alright if I go as an Assassin (Hyun Chae Soon) pretending to be a Ranger? I won't be very good at the trapping, but assuming that the thing can be done THEORETICALLY solo... then surely every extra trap helps... right?

If you'd sooner then I can just go standard assassin or put up one of the rather tougher builds. I reckon I could manage a pure Assassin Moebius build with the free slot for spidey-capping.

It'd just be that my Ranger primary (Hyun Soo Kim) isn't anything like ready yet... and it'll be a while before I'm ready to take her into the Underworld.

Anyway.... fine by me.
2 P.M. is in about 2 hours. And you are correct, every trap helps. Just bring as many as you can, We'll figure this all out once we get together..

Quote: Care to go into details?

Avengey and I just took a shot at it....

We got about as far as the Coldfire Nights outside the Village (behind the Terrorwebs).... and things just got really messy there (it was all clear-running up to that area, then first the Grasps killed Avengey and his hero... leaving me and mine to deal with them... then just trying to get past the Terrorwebs without aggroing anything became the major issue).

Admittedly.... we were trying to run 5 "trappers"... one of which (me) was an Assassin and hardly suited to the task at hand.... and my Jin was on Res-duty, so not much better.
If we were to do it your way, I could swap places with Margrid in theory.... doing the attacking myself and assigning Margrid the task of echo-trapping.


What precisely do you trap and what do you use the Heroes for?


[We're going to have another try at it tomorrow... same time.... and hope to get more real, human trapper help. I'm personally considering, if we get a few human trappers, just going on emergency resurrect-duty myself (Shadow Form, charge in, Rebirth, A few Prot spells, Shadow-Step out).]


I REPEAT: WE ARE GATHERING AGAIN TOMORROW FOR ANOTHER SHOT AT GETTING THE SPIDEYS, AND MORE TRAPPER HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
APPROX TIME: 2pm PST or 10pm GMT

The Mancer Man

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hi SotiCoto

The method I use is (hope this makes sense)

2 rangers - real people - with the traps - dust is a must - one ranger takes the necessary spirits - Wiki - has the builds needed

3 heroes each - 2 monks for healing, 2 nukers, and 1 warrior and 1 bonder total 6 heroes. This setup works for us. Flag heroes in corner on avoid combat.

Trap all the bulls, then clear the chamber of graspings and proceed to the terrorwebs. Clear all the monsters - again we trap - so that the 3 terrorwebs are left. We now unflag heroes to assist killing the terrorwebs - makes it quicker! Once done collect reward but take NO quest!!!!!!!!

Proceed to Vale - flag heroes near the reaper until needed - remember take no quest!

On to the Vale - trapping the bulls, graspings. Eventually you come to a bridge with a group of 6 grapsings positioned on the other side - don't aggro and kill leave them alone - repeat do not kill this group!!!! Slip past them and kill the second group of graspings and the third group of grasping near the shrine.

Once that is done you need to trap 2 groups of coldfires - one group at a time of course. They are the two groups that walk behind the shrine! Watch their patrol path and lay traps in their route. It can be done!

When they are dead go back - yes back to the first reaper - and take the quest - remember to not aggro the group of graspings near the bridge - they would have by now moved a little closer to the village - you can still slip past them! Bring your heroes with you on passive mode.

When you return you will now see 3 terrorwebs in front of the shrine. Use heroes - its quicker - and kill them. Once gone take the quest and the tortured souls will pop up - finish them off with your heroes and the spider will spawn back at the shrine for you to cap.

Probably wish to know why not to aggro that group of 6 grasping by the bridge? If you don't aggro them then its a guaranteed way of not losing all villages when the tortured souls pop up and try to kill them. If they, your green npc's, haven't popped up then they can't be killed!!!!!

Hope this makes sense and I've not confused you! Feel free to ask for clarification! Like I said it probably aint the best method but it works!

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Im after a dire spider for my ranger too If i get a chance i will come on and lend a hand until everyone is happy!

silent but true

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

OOUS

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slightly off topic but can any1 help me cap hearty spider for my ranger on sunday/maybe saturday gmt london time?

When I helped some1 cap spider we used a bonder, 1 SS (me) and a trapper if htat helps.

The Mancer Man

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Just remember!!!!

The spider evolution that spawns is completley random - hearty, dire, elder

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mancer Man
Just remember!!!!

The spider evolution that spawns is completley random - hearty, dire, elder Dont i know it this has been my problem all along, i've done about 5 runs and not managed to get a dire spider yet.

/Praying for a dire!

I Might Avenge U

I Might Avenge U

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Hey guys, I just wanted to say, I won't be getting on for a week or so... I will however be on guru (I think) so if you manage to get a method down please share!

The Mancer Man

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Join Date: Jan 2006

But I have shared a method...

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Mancer...

Seems to me like we practically got to the right place, but we did the method a bit wrong.
We managed to trap-kill the first group of Terrorwebs... but we ended up taking the quest too early and spawned the Terrorwebs by the statue.... which caused all the trouble.

Plus of course we killed all the Grasps, including whichever bridge group you refer to.


For the record.... what is the importance of the spirits? Why do they need not to be killed?



CHANGE OF PLAN FOR THE MEETING. IF POSSIBLE, WE MEET 2 HOURS EARLIER AT 8pm GMT. LOCATION = ZIN KU CORRIDOR, INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT 1.
Hopefully a team effort will be able to get us all spiders. I will personally settle for Elder OR Dire...
Be warned though..... it might take a lot of cash and / or scrolls...
Friends-list me beforehand for added convenience:
IGN = Hyun Chae Soon (yes, my Assassin).
WE CAN MEET AGAIN ON SATURDAY IF NECESSARY.

The Mancer Man

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hi SotiCoto


When you enter the Vale and kill the graspings green NPC's appear - for each group of graspings killed. Now if you don't kill the graspings by the bridge then a group of green NPC's wont appear which simply means they can't be killed when the red tortured souls finally appear - so all u have to do is kill all the tortured souls to cap your spider even if all the green NPC's have been killed coz u have a group not killed coz they haven't appeared. If u lost ALL NPC's then you fail!

Sounds like u went real close - just got the quest when u shoudn't have

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Alright.

I'm starting to get it now...

So are the Grasps that I'm NOT supposed to kill the ones immediately outside the village (around the corner from the mayor)?

The Mancer Man

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

The group of graspings that you Don't kill are the ones closest to the bridge!

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

What bridge?

I don't even remember seeing a bridge....
Was it before the village?

Bruce Leeroy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Just kill all the graspings. Bring a bonder, throw Life Barrier on 2 or 3 of them and they wont die while you wipe out the bad spirits.

The Mancer Man

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Yep, its a stone bridge you cross as you enter the Vale.

Bucephalus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

I captured this little lot when the access to the UW was free.

I run two accounts at the same time and so use two sets of heroes.

What I found was that each time I went to capture a spider the evolution, say, startd at Elder for about three visits, then Hearty for about three, then Dire for about three.

This happened more often than not for it to be a coincidence.

I quite often got bored though and went after the spider in the Icy Wastes to relieve the monotony.

I Might Avenge U

I Might Avenge U

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Holy crap...

Mind sharing your strategy.

@ Mancer Man: Cool, we gotta try that strategy... Like I said before I'll be awhile before I'm able to give it another go, and hopefully by then me and SotiCoto's Ranger will be all ready to trap and whatnot.

It might be awhile before I can play long enough to try and get a widow.. So for the time being, The next time we go to UW should be set for maybe Next weekend (not this weekend, next one). School starts up soon for me, so I also have other things to do. So soon I will be able to play well once everything has settled down. But for the time being, I'm be out of commission...

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

A shame really.

My Ranger has now got to the "Closer to the stars" quest... so she'll be Weh No Su by tomorrow, and quite possibly to Zin Ku Corridor as well. Give it an entire week (which I have off work) and she will have finished Factions... on both sides of the faction divide.


In any case though... nobody showed up yesterday.

I'm still planning to hold a meeting THIS weekend, but I'm just not very good at organising it.

WOULD ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CATCH BLACK WIDOWS OR HELP WITH THE CATCHING THEREOF PLEASE FRIENDSLIST ME AND CONTACT ME IN GAME! USE ANY OF THE IGNs LISTED TO THE LEFT OF THIS POST!

I Might Avenge U

I Might Avenge U

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The Earliest I can play is maybe this monday. If I actually get to play, I don't Know. It's more like, I'll be near my laptop, and If I'm not doing anything I'll jump on for a couple of hours...
Originally Posted by RainwalkerC
hmmm... i would like to cap some for my toons, pm me sometimes?
ign: azure tears Sure I'd be great if you could help out, Can you be on In about 2 hours?

The Mancer Man

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Okay, done it again and timed - takes about 35-40 minutes with no issues!
That's with two trappers and heroes.

Not saying it's the best way but it works.

IGn
Shadow Ghol

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mancer Man
Okay, done it again and timed - takes about 35-40 minutes with no issues!
That's with two trappers and heroes.

Not saying it's the best way but it works.

IGn
Shadow Ghol