Is GWEN doomed to sell, sales wise?
Lawnmower
Seriously, look at the games that are coming out in august:
Stuntman, Blue Dragon, Warhawk, Stranglehold(the john woo game), Metroid Prime 3, Bioshock(I know allot of people are waiting on that), and of all freaking crap... freaking NFL Madden 08
Couldnt Anet find a better month to release GWEN in? Seriously, it will hurt GWENs sale.
Stuntman, Blue Dragon, Warhawk, Stranglehold(the john woo game), Metroid Prime 3, Bioshock(I know allot of people are waiting on that), and of all freaking crap... freaking NFL Madden 08
Couldnt Anet find a better month to release GWEN in? Seriously, it will hurt GWENs sale.
SaucE
No it won't. Since GWEN is an expansion, all the loyal GW players will get GWEN and put the others on the back burner.
Bryant Again
Bioshock ftfw.
But no, I don't really anticipate when selling zomg awesome, since GW isn't selling too zomgawesome.
But no, I don't really anticipate when selling zomg awesome, since GW isn't selling too zomgawesome.
Seissor
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Bioshock ftfw.
But no, I don't really anticipate when selling zomg awesome, since GW isn't selling too zomgawesome. Folks at anet beg to differ.
I'm getting GW:EN and all those other games can wait. Why? Because playing bioshock now will be the same as playing it in 3 months time (actually maybe better in 3 months time since game devs loooove to release buggy games now)
Playing GWEN when it goes live is better than playing far into the future as the rare drops you get have greater value and only decrease as time rumbles on.
But no, I don't really anticipate when selling zomg awesome, since GW isn't selling too zomgawesome. Folks at anet beg to differ.
I'm getting GW:EN and all those other games can wait. Why? Because playing bioshock now will be the same as playing it in 3 months time (actually maybe better in 3 months time since game devs loooove to release buggy games now)
Playing GWEN when it goes live is better than playing far into the future as the rare drops you get have greater value and only decrease as time rumbles on.
arcanemacabre
Guild Wars made $8.9mil last quarter alone (compare to CoH/CoV at $6.9mil, and that's with a monthly fee). Not bad for an off quarter with no new products...
EDIT: Thought I'd add my source so I don't get info-sniped:
http://news.filefront.com/lineage-dr...q2-821m-sales/
EDIT: Thought I'd add my source so I don't get info-sniped:
http://news.filefront.com/lineage-dr...q2-821m-sales/
Kakumei
Am I the only one who doesn't understand the thread title? Doomed to sell? Isn't that a good thing?
gasmaskman
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
EDIT: Thought I'd add my source so I don't get info-sniped:
http://news.filefront.com/lineage-dr...q2-821m-sales/ CoH/CoV isn't exactly THE number one MMORPG.
arcanemacabre
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CoH/CoV isn't exactly THE number one MMORPG.
Yeah.... and?
I was showing they are doing well, not they are top dawgs. Hell, they're doing exceptionally well if you also consider this is Arenanet's first game. I'm sure if you compare it to the first Warcraft game (Blizzard's first "hit"), they're kicking ass!
I was showing they are doing well, not they are top dawgs. Hell, they're doing exceptionally well if you also consider this is Arenanet's first game. I'm sure if you compare it to the first Warcraft game (Blizzard's first "hit"), they're kicking ass!
Retribution X
Anet are doing VERY well considering that this is the company's first game. The first game they released was my favorite game ever.
No, I doubt many PvPers will buy it, but I doubt it's doomed to fail.
No, I doubt many PvPers will buy it, but I doubt it's doomed to fail.
Kas
Not that it matters but I'm interested in how the constant "splitting the communtiy in two and ultimately pissing off one of the two halves at a time" business model works out, and i'm not talking about PVE/PVP here but the habit to constantly make changes that have a guarantee to shoo players away.
I'm interested in seeing how long that works out.
I'm interested in seeing how long that works out.
Raganark
well i for one like the updates we are getting and will be buying GWEN
Droniac
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower
Stuntman, Blue Dragon, Warhawk, Stranglehold(the john woo game), Metroid Prime 3, Bioshock(I know allot of people are waiting on that), and of all freaking crap... freaking NFL Madden 08
Couldnt Anet find a better month to release GWEN in? Seriously, it will hurt GWENs sale.
Nearly all of the titles you mentioned are not PC games... GW:EN is, that, coupled with the fact that none of the games you mentioned are even remotely in the same genre, only shows that releasing GW:EN in August is a good idea: there is no direct competition!
Besides: the release list of the months after August is infinitely more impressive and actually could endanger the sales figures for GW:EN if it were to be postponed. Not to mention the fact that many games to be released around that time actually would count as direct competition for GW:EN. (Hellgate: London, The Witcher, the NWN2 expansion, Gods & Heroes, Chronicles of Spellborn, etc.)
MithranArkanere
Single player games can wait.
Almost every single PvE lover will get it as soon as possible.
Almost every single PvE lover will get it as soon as possible.
hobbit man
Lol, you act like GWEN's sales could actually have been good.
If nothing was being released this month, this game wouldn't sell.
If nothing was being released this month, this game wouldn't sell.
hobbit man
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Single player games can wait.
Almost every single PvE lover will get it as soon as possible. Cool, love PVE but realized that Bioshock is atleast a hundred times better than this game will be and that goes double for Metroid.
This game is single player anyway, you do everything with heroes and talk to a couple people...
Almost every single PvE lover will get it as soon as possible. Cool, love PVE but realized that Bioshock is atleast a hundred times better than this game will be and that goes double for Metroid.
This game is single player anyway, you do everything with heroes and talk to a couple people...
Buster
Many will buy this game and Anet has done a good job marketing it. Since they have announced GW:EN they gave us alot of articles on it as well as some really nice trailers not to mention the Return to Tyria Sweepstakes.
All good stuff and I can't wait for the release.
All good stuff and I can't wait for the release.
isamu kurosawa
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This game is single player anyway, you do everything with heroes and talk to a couple people...
Only if you choose too. Personally I'll be playing gw:en the day of release with an all alliance team.
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by Droniac
Quote: Originally Posted by Seissor I'm getting GW:EN and all those other games can wait. Why? Because playing bioshock now will be the same as playing it in 3 months time (actually maybe better in 3 months time since game devs loooove to release buggy games now)
Playing GWEN when it goes live is better than playing far into the future as the rare drops you get have greater value and only decrease as time rumbles on. Aight.
That's cool.
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Cool, love PVE but realized that Bioshock is atleast a hundred times better than this game will be and that goes double for Metroid.
"Bioshock - spiritual successor to System Shock". AND made by the same company. I'm sold. Quote:
/Rant on
That is some high quality BS right there. Sure, people have their preferences when it comes to genres. BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER MUCH WHICH PLATFORM ITS ON. Gamers are gamers period. That dribble would have been true a decade ago when Console AND PC games were different beasts. But it is no longer the case. Console Gamers are PC Gamers now and vice versa. Games are now multiplatform. PC game makers who once before thought that they would NEVER touch consoles are now making them for multiple consoles AND PC. So that line you drew is non existent to tons of people who cross it daily. As for who will buy what, for every person you name who only plays PC and I will name 5 people who play multiplatform. /Rant off Quote: |
Anyone can speculate sales. Analysts do it all the time.
August is far from a bad month to release GW:EN, in fact it's a great month... there is no direct competition - and the only other major title being released (for PC) this month is BioShock, which is so different from GW:EN that it is unlikely to attract many people who would otherwise have purchased GW:EN.
AND Direct Competition means games of the same GENRE not necessarily the same platform. So you are right on that point but it does not take away from the fact that indirect competition can be just as damaging. And judging by the amount of other games on the ballot this month, I can see a few putting GW:EN off a month or two before buying it. Quote:
Now let me quote you: "That is some high quality BS right there." It does matter which platform the game is released on, because a lot (likely the vast majority - although I've never seen any numbers) of gamers are not rich bastards with a high-end PC, PS3, Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii in their homes all at once, but rather with just one, sometimes two of the above. So does it matter that GW:EN is a PC game and nearly every one of the, supposedly, interesting titles to be released this month (which does not include Enemy Territory Quake Wars by the way) are not? Hell yeah. As for claiming that console and PC gamers are exactly the same nowadays. Everything, from the industry itself to the statistics, prove you wrong. The vast majority of PC games remain completely different from anything you'll see on consoles, although I'll admit many mainstream games are now multi platform (albeit with significant PC gameplay changes, which wouldn't be necessary if the PC and console gamers were the exact same people, now would it?). Then there's NPD statistics, which clearly show that the consumer base for PC games is quite different from that for console games. Not only are the most popular genres entirely different, but also the average age of PC gamers is measured to be significantly higher. Look it up if you want to see for yourself, that's what google's for. Also, I'm sure you can mention 5 people who play games multi platform for every person who plays PC games exclusively. That's not an argument for anything you've mentioned by any means though. Oh yeah sure you can come up with 5 (probably a whole lot more) people who play both PS3 and Wii, or PC and Nintendo DS, versus 1 PC exclusive gamer. Who couldn't? The real question is: could you bring forward 5 PC+Console (not handheld) gamers, versus 1 PC exclusive? Maybe if you restrict it to America, but even then it seems highly unlikely. Quote:
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