Random Arenas: Where the lowest of the low appear

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

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The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

I'm tired of Random Arenas. GuildWars staff should really think about adding my ideas into the game, for I feel it would GREATLY improve Random Arena's.

**Do to the many ignorant people on this website, I would like to ass that the build I used is a PvE build used to farm for DeadSwors. Its my adaptation of the pvxwiki build and it works in my opinion, better. So please, stay on topic and don't be such jerks. I didn't change my bar because i was bored of looking for an armbrace for 3 hours, thats why I went into a RA battle. Thank you very much. kthxbai***

For one, I'm TIRED of quitters in RA. Many people simply leave their team just because they do not have a Monk. My idea...
40 Balthazar faction deduction to all player whom leave before 60 seconds are elapsed.


And the second thing that pisses me off... our long POINTLESS matches. I'm tired of matches that can not be won because,
A: My team has no Enchantment removal
B: My team has no snares.

Mainly, the second thing i realized today because the team i was with was doing AWESOME! We were on our third and all of our wins were flawless. And than...

We ran into a runner who decided that its funny to just run around and waste EVERYONES time. I took a second scrrenshot to show that we were chasing him for over 28 minutes because we spiked the rest of their team.


Thus, my last idea.
At ten minutes, the team with the overall higher status wins.

Edited screenshots because they were too large and had other players names in them.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

They are planning on something about this.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

So, you bring a god-awful build with sub-par running capabilities, waste several slots that on ineffectual self-preservation skills, and then blame your teammates when they bring neither enchant rip nor snares?

You're part of the problem on that team. Arguably the ele should have an enchant rip. But as for snares and run skills - you're it with that team, man.

Lose the monk skills. Lose Hundred Blades for a real elite. Lose Endure. Put a decent run skill in there (something above and beyond your adren buff that masquerades as a run skill). Take a secondary that permits you to bring something useful (a Rending Touch, a Shock, etc.).

It's random arenas. You want something done, you gotta do it yourself.

Alexandra-Sweet

Alexandra-Sweet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

That one place with the trees, mountains and snow

Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]

Me/

Random.

You cannot always get what you want.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

If you go to RA, and especially if you're ranked, you should know that you can't rely on the other random members of your team to bring all the utilities you may need. Sure, a warrior shouldn't be responsible for enchant removal, but some form of snare/anti kite is expected. A sword warrior should at least have considered cripslash. Or bulls, or sprint, rush etc. Bring some yourself or just leave when this happens. I mean 28 minutes? How many rounds could you have done in that time?

Fighterdoken

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Maybe the OP was trying to show his build as a proof that RA indeed brings the lowest?

I mean, i am a total newbie in PVP (and with the class i use there), and still kinda new to the game (2 month maybe), but still enjoy RA batles.

There is fun in RA if you actually realize that most of the people there has no clue what they are doing (newbies like me, or people just testing new builds and seeing if they can make it work), or think they do but are totally wrong (like certain warrior calling me names for using SS+blind, and dying 5 seconds later, when blind wore off and all the hexes kicked in XD).

55 monks, runners, leavers, leechers, players that have now clue and/or are not ready for those three... RA can't be more random than that


(but if they fix the leavers + leechers part as stated somewhere, i wouldn't complain)

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

lol @ people who care about his skill bar

So what if it's a bad RA build? Doesn't matter. Not like you've all been sporting uber leet haxor builds for your entire time in GW. This is far from the original subject, and has degraded into pretty argument/insult trading based off of a SKILL BAR.

I, personally, have ran into a 55 monk that my team was incapable of killing, due to the lack of disenchants. You can't always be responsible for everyone, especially if your using a specific build, like I was.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
lol @ people who care about his skill bar

So what if it's a bad RA build? Doesn't matter. Not like you've all been sporting uber leet haxor builds for your entire time in GW. This is far from the original subject, and has degraded into pretty argument/insult trading based off of a SKILL BAR.
Agreed. Although part of the problem the OP is complaining about does have a lot to do with his skillbar. If he took a little more utility (not commenting on the /Mo skills, nor the lack of damage, a poor elite, and lack of res - oops, just did), he could've been a bit more prepared for taking out a runner.

Of course, another great way to solve a problem like this would be to simply leave and start over. I dislike leavers in general, but I think if discussed with the team, everyone would agree that it was a waste of time and leave to try again.

I still think some cripple, and other utility skills would be in order for RA in general. Just ratting on a poor skillbar is useless. Explaining why it's poor in regards to the problem at hand is useful. At least I hope.

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
lol @ people who care about his skill bar
because it's hilarious, that's why.

also if you've been keeping up to date with the official wiki, it looks like ANet are doing something about it

"a time limit on RA/TA games to stop runners."

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by myword
because it's hilarious, that's why.

also if you've been keeping up to date with the official wiki, it looks like ANet are doing something about it

"a time limit on RA/TA games to stop runners."
I don't really find it all that funny. Nor do I understand why funny would lead to flames. I saw that they are planning on changing it, which sounds good.

VendingMachine

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sure lets all insult each other. That makes us all feel good inside. *Hugs*. Now for a serious discussion......Please?

I hate leechers, quitters and runners.

Kay I'm done bye!

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

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Mo/Me

Anyway, I cant wait for Gaile's input on the thread.

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
Sure lets all insult each other. That makes us all feel good inside. *Hugs*. Now for a serious discussion......Please?

I hate leechers, quitters and runners.

Kay I'm done bye!
serious discussion lolwut?

if you refer to my post, they have already mentioned they are looking into 'fixing' the problem on griefers, so there's nothing more to add to the discussion

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryan_Scott

under Gladiator changes, read the edit in italics, "EDIT: I forgot to mention that we're also adding mechanics for punishing leechers and a time limit on RA/TA games to stop runners."

all that's left in this thread is for noxify to continue amusing us

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
Anyway, I cant wait for Gaile's input on the thread.
Gaile: lolz nice skillbar noobz!!1

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

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The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

I'm just waiting for serious posters who want to discuss the thread. I have yet to find one though. =/

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
I'm just waiting for serious posters who want to discuss the thread. I have yet to find one though. =/
I made an attempt.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
I made an attempt.
As did I. I gave up when I noticed the OP was just looking for a fight after a while.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

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Mo/Me

What is. "OP" I'm new here. I understand its me, but what does it stand for. And also, I wasn't looking for a fight. Others started one.

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

OP=original poster, or something along those lines.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

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Mo/Me

Oh thank you! Even though you have been flaming me and I have no idea who you are, I thank you for telling me this.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
What is. "OP" I'm new here. I understand its me, but what does it stand for. And also, I wasn't looking for a fight. Others started one.
No one started a fight. They criticized your build and you got defensive. Granted, some of them were out of line, but that still didn't require you to stoop to their level and attack back. You explained why you have the bar you did, that's enough. Ignore the rest. Everything I quoted was you fueling the flames as high as you could get them. That is counter-intuitive to any points you are trying to make with your thread.

Also, Shadow and I both posted in regards to the content of your first post, and within the subject matter, but you ignored them and continued to attack the other posts bashing your build. So it appeared to me that you were only looking for a fight, rather than discussing the point you originally made.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

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The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

I "fail" because... I didn't feel like loading a PvP build? Kthx. I've said it numerous times.

I hope someone important puts an offical quote down or something straight from anet.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

If the runners are such garbage, why not bring counters? Like crippling slash or grasping earth or Bull's strike or run a hammer bar.

I hope this has been a brilliant learning experience.

Also rank means nothing, I wouldn't use it to defend your credibility, it just makes things worse.

MrFuzzles

MrFuzzles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Norway

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
I hope someone important puts an offical quote down or something straight from anet.
We've said several times now that they have said they are planning to do something about stalemate matches. It's in the wiki.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

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The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFuzzles
We've said several times now that they have said they are planning to do something about stalemate matches. It's in the wiki.
I know. I'm looking for an actual response from someone like Gaile or something though.

druggedchimp

druggedchimp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

For a moment, I thought the OP was trying to be ironic...

He does bring about some good ideas though.

Also, you can't expect an immature kid to not go completely overboard on the defensive side. (I'm not trying to insult you Nox, just stating the truth)

This thread is flamebait tho, /considerclosingit?

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
I know. I'm looking for an actual response from someone like Gaile or something though.
I'm not trying to be mean or anything but because anet already announced they plan on doing something about the leavers/leachers and the amount of time a match takes, I doubt Gaile is going to come here and post it again.

kthxbai

Alperuzi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

An/TR

Need One! :(

W/Mo

Live Vicarously is a kickass skill for a wammo, especially with flurry... what are you talking about?

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Ok!

Runners suck in RA/TA.
Thats a very wammo built.
No one really care's about your built. Because it's all in fun.
Four pages of chit.

Avarre please close.

around

around

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy

I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3

R/

Everyone knows rangers are invulnerable.

With their combination of Natural Stride and Troll Unguent, rangers cannot be killed. Simple logic. Thus, something needs to be done about it. It's not your fault that neither you or your teamates brought crappy builds that have 0 real damage power (I'm guessing that that P/D carries Ebon Dust Aura), or that you didn't carry any snares, run-buffs or an IAS.

Seriously, cut this guy some slack. It's not as if it's easy to kill a ranger if you've got no damage.

Other people in this thread: you cannot be expected to bring a counter to everything. For example, you cannot expect a warrior to carry an enchant rip (apart from maybe Rending Touch), or can you expect an assassin to bring a stance remover. If I'm forced into a stalemate because there's a warrior and an assassin on my team and a stoneflesh ele tank on the other and neither of us have any interrupts (because normally warriors and assassins don't carry interrupts) it should not be a case of who gets bored quicker.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pork soldier
That sir is a truly EPIC wammo bar.
Quoted for truth.

In fact, that bar has the Wammo Hunter Seal of Epicness.



"Don't Blink. Blink and you're dead. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't Blink"*



ok, I've had my fun. I can't resist a good Wammo taunting, I do apologise.

I have had the same frustrations as the OP in game, and it doesn't only happen in RA...some people seem to think it also works in Fort Aspenwood, which is wrong, because it so shouldn't. Occaisionally I find a kurzick wammo who spams Charge and Sprint, and Healing Breeze when necessary outside the fort, up and down and gets a remarkable amount of attention. Why does he run? For attention, as a distraction...but it's annoying. People need to learn to ignore such players.

The gamble with RA seems to be that you never know who you'll get dumped with. You can't bank on your fellow party members taking certain skills so there is a dilemma...do you take a snare, enchantment removal, hex removal, interrupts, healing yourself...or do you hope you get a good party. Trying to "cover all bases" is very difficult.




*[source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1000252/, for copyright's sake...I just like the quote]

around

around

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy

I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3

R/

W/A > W/D tbh.

Much rather have Dash and DDagger than Pious Haste and Rending Touch.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

This thread is nothing but flaming with no discussion, so I'm going to close it.