If I buy An Ambrace Of Truth - Will I Get Banned ?

Sirus Dibley

Sirus Dibley

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

England

Me/N

Well ? An official answer would be nice.

Tatum

Tatum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Scars Meadows [SMS]

N/

Hehe, you don't get banned. Armbrace of Truth is used to get Tormented items.

vixro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Stranded Among New Players [SANP]

Mo/

With money or game gold?

If you pay real money for an item, technically they can ban you. But in all honesty there is pretty much no way they can possibly tell if you paid real money for it or not (unless they were the ones selling it, like a cop faking to be a prostitute).

Isileth

Isileth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/W

As Gaile has stated in another thread (sorry I dont have it to hand to quote) those who actively abused the exploit, those who knowingly recieved or purchased items they knew had been created through the exploit (This also includes people who sold items for stacks of Ambraces as Gaile said its fairly obvious they wouldnt have been obtained through legit gaming). However people who have purchased the odd one or 2 items without knowing of the exploit (I assume this means you need to be a few steps down the chain from someone who originally exploited it, so you could not have known) are very unlikely to be banned.

So basically as long as your not buying from someone spamming they have stacks to sell or offering stupids ammounts in trade you should be ok. If you want to risk it or not is up to you however, it seems unlikely you would have a desperate need for one expect to make a profit from this situation so I would advise not purchasing one. Of course the choise is yours.

If you can obtain one yourself without buying that would obviousely be the better route to take.


Edit to include Gailes post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
What "mass banning" are you describing? The numbers being mentioned in this thread are in the single digits. There has been no mass ban. Period.

Here is what we've done:
  • We've found the people who duplicated items. Their numbers were really quite small. We banned them.
  • We found the people to whom the duplicated items were given in large quantities. Their numbers were somewhat larger, but again, relatively few. We banned them.
  • We are examining records to see how far this extends. We may be banning more in the coming days, but we will most likely choose to not ban more than we will choose to ban. The decision is ours and will be based on a lot of factors, principal being whether it's reasonable to assume that the player knew he/she was getting ill-gotten goods.
We are quite sure that those players getting stacks and stacks of the most valuable item in the game realized that this largesse was not the result of the kind and generous spirit of a guild mate or friend. We're quite sure that those getting offers of 5 gazillion armbraces for item sales knew that something was wrong, and yet they made the sale anyway. It's obvious that certain players knew about the exploit, or suspected there was one. It's pretty easy to establish who such players were.

Did you think we'd never notice? Of course we noticed! Our recordkeeping is exceptionally detailed. You can't move a piece of gold from one bag to another without us knowing it. And as a result, those at the center of abusing this exploit were banned. That is as it should be.

The issue of someone selling a single ambrace to another innocent person, later on, is more complicated. The item was duped, but the buyer may not have been -- probably was not -- aware that he/she was buying a duped item. So, it's a matter of degree, intention, and knowledge. Do we ban the seller, with multiple stacks of 250 armbraces in inventory (or who handed off stacks to friends and guildies)? Yes! Do we ban the player who makes the one-off purchase -- an armbrace here, a couple of duped ectos there? It's not likely that we will.

Duplicating items is disallowed by the User Agreement under which each player is permitted to play Guild Wars. Getting stacks and stacks of free items -- or receiving ridiculous numbers of items for a sale -- must have pinged peoples' radars that "Hey, this can't be legit!" Just as receiving stolen property is a crime in the real world, this sort of act is disallowed in our game, and results in a ban.

Those who made an innocent purchase have very little to worry about. The accounts of those who were banned were examined with care and consideration, using extensive research to assure that the appropriate action was taken. It is highly unlikely that these players can successfully appeal their banning.

And if you're aware of someone who was involved, I invite you to report that player, for the good of the game.

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

As long as you buy it with legit ingame gold, you will not get banned.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

My advise, wait a few weeks before buying one, just to give things a chance to settle down.

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Agree, right now the Ambrace market is more or less a red zone. Seeing that you have no mean of knowing weather or not the items are duplicated. Also ANet is tracking those items and will ban first and ask question later if they see one. If you really want to buy it, do so at you own risk.

Prof Of Black

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

Just dont buy one, wait.

The risk of getting banned is just too high, and surely not worth it.

~Prof.

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

I would steer clear of buying any high value items from anyone except the merchant. I popped into ToA late last night and people were selling Ambraces of Truth for 5K. That is a ridiculously low price and these items were duped. Having duped items in your inventory puts you at risk for being banned.

Suuk

Suuk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

the Netherlands

Lovers of Whisky and Women (LWW)

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prof Of Black
Just dont buy one, wait.

The risk of getting banned is just too high, and surely not worth it.

~Prof.
FYI, this person got banned because he traded/bought 8 armbraces without knowing about the exploit/dup thing.

You know now and you are trying to figure out whether it is safe to take advantage of the panic in the armbrace market.

Shame on you!

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

i think he's just being cautious about buying a legit one. people do hate waiting to buy things they want.
i think you plaed the shame card way too early, dude.

Suuk

Suuk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

the Netherlands

Lovers of Whisky and Women (LWW)

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Puddles
i think he's just being cautious about buying a legit one. people do hate waiting to buy things they want.
i think you plaed the shame card way too early, dude.
Do you think I did? Well, I think I did not. And here is why: the whole guru was swarmed with posts about the armbrace issue. Everyone with at least one working brain cell could figure out that if you are buying armbraces now, you take advantage of the situation. Also, you run the risk of getting a ban. If someone asks for official wording about the possibilities of getting a ban when buying an armbrace while the whole thing is at its peak, I can not conclude any other thing than that said person is trying to take advantage. Otherwise he would just wait till the whole thing is over and dealt with.

And, I am not a dude. You can call me by my forum name or just call me sir

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

R/

Call me stupid, but i cant find anything on wiki.... what is a Ambrace Of Truth

Lorinda

Lorinda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
Call me stupid, but i cant find anything on wiki.... what is a Ambrace Of Truth
Your not stupid.
Its a very high end item that gives you the option to choose from several high end weapons in Nightfall.
They did something with the internetreconnect option to reproduce these items. *named duped/duplicating*
That is also why the reconnect option is turned off.

My tip: Dont buy an Armbrace now. Just get the gems and get one yourself in Normal Mode from a Spirit of Truth in one of the 4 area's . She cant duplicate one.
Dont burn your fingers on something that is to good to be true.


http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armbrace

Officail Wiki had it.

Disclaimer: Im not english no english bassing plz ktybye

Suuk

Suuk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

the Netherlands

Lovers of Whisky and Women (LWW)

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorinda
Disclaimer: Im not english no english bassing plz ktybye
You are Dutch so you dont have an excuse for poor English

Geintje

What she said: dont be tempted to buy because of the low prices.

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutis Evito
Call me stupid, but i cant find anything on wiki.... what is a Ambrace Of Truth
Probably couldn't find it because it's an aRmbrace of truth. Common mistake, like the Sliver/Silver Armor.

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

R/

Ah....and i dont own NF anyway

Scorpion Boy

Scorpion Boy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Like almost everyone here said before, you won't get banned unless you buy one with "black" gold or if you buy like 1750of them, buying one won't get you banned.

~Scorp

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

I would wait a week or two, to give ANet the time to remove any left-over dupes. Or just buy gemstones and get the armbrace yourself.

joze

joze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

I would do as many here have suggested you to - simply wait.
ANet will probably make attempts to remove these duped Armbraces from the market, and maybe one day yours will be gone.
You can risk of getting banned too, ANet is not very careful with what they've done recently. I know several persons who got banned for buying Armbraces for 60E and selling for 70E, even though they did not know they were duped ones.
Stay away from Armbraces for a while before you buy one - that's what I'm going to do.

Hephaestus Ram

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

W/E

It's not likely that you will, but you probably should be. Just
for being foolish enough to buy one now when you obviously
know what's going on with them.

Twonaiver

Twonaiver

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

S??o Paulo Brasil

R/

you dont probably should in any way, you bought and payed for your account, there is not even a warn to people ingame, its not oblidged to game use that you go through forums to know of the incopetence in the security sistem of the game, the only ones that can be banned are those who duplicated the items.
Anet have the bad habbit on passing up theyr problems to users, they gave much more gold for free qhen they leveled prices, if i manage to buy armbraces for 5k its thumbs up to you, its not your fault they let the game be exploited.

Hephaestus Ram

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twonaiver
you dont probably should in any way, you bought and payed for your account, there is not even a warn to people ingame, its not oblidged to game use that you go through forums to know of the incopetence in the security sistem of the game, the only ones that can be banned are those who duplicated the items.
Anet have the bad habbit on passing up theyr problems to users, they gave much more gold for free qhen they leveled prices, if i manage to buy armbraces for 5k its thumbs up to you, its not your fault they let the game be exploited.

Maybe you can repost that after you get banned so we can
laugh at you.

The fact is, if you want an armbrace then you know what an
armbrace is for, and you also have a good idea of what they're
worth. If you buy one for 5k and try to claim that you didn't
know there was something wrong with that.... well, like I said,
repost your viewpoint after you're banned so we can have a
good laugh.