Did the problem get out of hand to the extent that Armbraces are going to be completely out of whack (price-wise) for quite some time? Or have the bannings been widescread and ruthless enough that the problem is mostly nipped in the bud?
More importantly, how will this affect the population in the Domain of Anguish? This one may be more difficult to tell since GW:EN is so close to release, and it will obviously mean a diminishing number of people trying DoA as well.
Personally, I think for the next 3-4 weeks, Armbraces will be much, much lower. I think many have perhaps slipped through into casual markets, and those afraid that further bannings will occur may be pressured to sell the ones they have for less than ideal (for the seller) prices. But it'll slowly correct itself over the course of time. How slowly, I don't know. It also remains to be seen if Anet considers a rollback or other extreme follow-up measures.
How do you think the Armbrace market will stabilize?
LumpOfCole
NoXiFy
My input: armbraces are going to hit rock bottom. Just like ecto.
VitisVinifera
I think they are now stigmatized. Noone will want to buy one from someone else, or in their minds they are risking getting banned.
Also, considering that so many of them got duped and distributed, the cache of owning a tormented item has gone way down. People won't want to do the work themselves to get their own armbrace, because the perceived lack of stature that owning an item that got mass duped and distributed for very cheap prices.
I've read with great interest the related threads, from how it got started, to how it got out of control, to how Anet is dealing with it, Gaile's responses, and the ultimate outcomes (no rollback, some bannings, items not being erased).
There's no right answer to this, the entire situation is terrible, and is further proof of this game's demise.
Also, considering that so many of them got duped and distributed, the cache of owning a tormented item has gone way down. People won't want to do the work themselves to get their own armbrace, because the perceived lack of stature that owning an item that got mass duped and distributed for very cheap prices.
I've read with great interest the related threads, from how it got started, to how it got out of control, to how Anet is dealing with it, Gaile's responses, and the ultimate outcomes (no rollback, some bannings, items not being erased).
There's no right answer to this, the entire situation is terrible, and is further proof of this game's demise.
Gimme Money Plzkthx
Gonna drop mad to about 50k probably. I doubt it will go back up... then again, we don't know that much about the banning policies yet.
LuckyGiant
My god, who the hell cares.
Stop creating ridiculous threads.
You cannot possibly know how many (even roughly) were leaked into the economy and its been said they might still be banning/cleaning so theres not point on speculating at this time.
Stop creating ridiculous threads.
You cannot possibly know how many (even roughly) were leaked into the economy and its been said they might still be banning/cleaning so theres not point on speculating at this time.
NoXiFy
Trillions were leaked. 
hazard4all
How do you think the Armbrace market will stabilize?\
I think they wont.....mabye the best ide would be that armbraces replace with some new item...
I think they wont.....mabye the best ide would be that armbraces replace with some new item...
Hollow Gein
Rock bottom prices, lmao...I'm in.
Racthoh
Some guildies were mentioning them being 100k + xx ecto in their search to get some for cheap as a result of the dupe, but I haven't heard anything about the prices after the bannings were handed out. There were numerous "WT B Ambrace" in the party searches for dirt cheap but to no avail.
Witchblade
/dont have NF
the purpose of this thing is only getting Tormented stuff right? ^^
the purpose of this thing is only getting Tormented stuff right? ^^
You can't see me
Well, since most of the armbraces were deleted that were duped, gone with all the banned accounts, I estimate that they'll stabalize around 100k +20-30E from the scare.
Seriously, it's not like they got any easier to obtain. Gemsets soared today because people wanted to get safe items and DoA is still DoA. They'll go down some, but not to rock bottom. The spammers that say "WTB Armbrace 10k" are not going to be very sucessful, as no one will sell to that.
Seriously, it's not like they got any easier to obtain. Gemsets soared today because people wanted to get safe items and DoA is still DoA. They'll go down some, but not to rock bottom. The spammers that say "WTB Armbrace 10k" are not going to be very sucessful, as no one will sell to that.
Evilsod
Its a bit soon to say isn't it... i mean we don't even know what Anet are going to do to the Armbraces once the accounts they were traded to are unbanned.
LumpOfCole
Anet has been extremely quiet about the whole thing. Since the bannings have already occured, it is a real possibility that they will continue to be quiet and go on and let the market fix itself, maybe banning a few more learned dupers along the way.
spellsword
I am hoping for a lasting price drop, all the cheaper, all the better.
DarkNecrid
It'll be low right now cause player's think there is a ton of them (there isn't cause of the bans), then stabalize cause smart people who have legit armbraces won't trade right now.
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Can no one think of anyone but themselves?
No, because this will hurt a lot of farmers. This may be good for you because you only need to buy ONE, and now you can get a week sooner in your farming, but think of all the people who farm DoA. If the price drops, the gem price drops, as do tormented items. Since DoA is the best moneymaker in game, argueably between Urgoz and the Deep and itself, people who farm it will have more trouble getting money, making the game's max profit activity give less profit with no additional profit to any other activity.
This was very bad for the market.
pork soldier
How do you think the Armbrace market will stabilize?
... and why does anyone care?
Guild Wars isn't Materialism Wars - if you want a game based around loot go play WoW.
... and why does anyone care?
Guild Wars isn't Materialism Wars - if you want a game based around loot go play WoW.
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People bought ambraces at 100K + 50Ecto's Plus. Now I know as most of you that items tend to devaluate over time. But 30Ecto's + Price difference through an eploit is hardly fair for people who already farmed, payed there but off for one. Don't tell people how to play. I still think anet has to give something back to the community as compensation for the losses.
Hell if it turns out that I could have bought 1 ambrace for 20K and gotten away with it, I 'm ashamed to say that it's a pitty that I din't buy one
(Which is prolly the truth as gaile mentioned in another thread )
joze
It willl even out, eventually. But they will turn out to be worth just a bit less than they were.
Personally I don't mind, juas aslong as A Net di everything they can to remove as many of the duped oned that they can.
Personally I don't mind, juas aslong as A Net di everything they can to remove as many of the duped oned that they can.
MirkoTeran
After about 1 hour of going trough all towns with possible sellers the lowest I've seen were priced around 35e. (Only counting the people that actually did have AoT to sell, not the jokers with "WTS: Ambrace 1k LOL"). There are still alot of people trying to sell them for 100k+50-70e.
Personally I'm much more interested what happens to price of ecto now.
Personally I'm much more interested what happens to price of ecto now.
tasha
Considering the forthcoming GW:EN release, I don't think we'll ever know the true impact of this exploit. I expect Ambraces will be seen as tainted for a while (probably a few days, online game memory seems to be short), and then the price may start to rise. With GW:EN comes a new shinier object of desire, people won't want ambraces so much, price will come down.
Shanaeri Rynale
Armbraces were always going to go down in value.
1. New=better in game terms anyway
2. Looks like torment weapons will be excluded from the Hom
3. Reduction in interest in DoA
All this has done is acellerate the inevitable decline some. Like exotic super cars, you don't buy prestige weapons to invest or to show off in long term, you buy them because you like and enjoy them.
1. New=better in game terms anyway
2. Looks like torment weapons will be excluded from the Hom
3. Reduction in interest in DoA
All this has done is acellerate the inevitable decline some. Like exotic super cars, you don't buy prestige weapons to invest or to show off in long term, you buy them because you like and enjoy them.
Hyper.nl
We just have to wait and see how the situation settles. In a few weeks the panic and speculation will be over.
Longasc
IMO:
In the light of the the horrible exploit involving armbraces, how about renaming all that dropped before the fix to SHACKLES OF HUMILITY.
So players could make sure that they are buying unduped, fresh armbraces.
In the light of the the horrible exploit involving armbraces, how about renaming all that dropped before the fix to SHACKLES OF HUMILITY.
So players could make sure that they are buying unduped, fresh armbraces.
Shanaeri Rynale
Not a bad idea, although how about Armbraces of one thousand seven hundred and fifty truths?
lyra_song
Anyone selling armbraces better have PROOF that their armbraces are legit.
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Not a bad idea, although how about Armbraces of one thousand seven hundred and fifty truths?
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Darkobra
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ibex333
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I still think anet has to give something back to the community as compensation for the losses.
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It's funny.. If I don't get scammed in a trade by a scammer, then I'll loose my money anyway thanx to Anet that doesn't want to do anything about dupers.
One thing is for sure. I'll NEVER do any farming again until the prices get back to where they were BEFORE the dupes.(yeah I'm sure that line will be quoted for various reasons) Some will say that that is exacly what Anet wanted in the 1st place.... lol Then again, if this is what they wanted, why allow so much farming that was going on all those years? Why have all those expensive items in game?
Banning is not enough. A total rollback must be done. People are not stupid. If I had 1000 armbraces, I'd quickly trade them in for torment weapons and then trade them to players for gold and ecto. If I had any left over, I'd quickly delete them before the bans started. It was easy to know when that happened because it was all posted on forums. If I didn't know about the forums, I'd do the above anyway, and I'd do it as quickly as possible within 2-3days because everyone knows about potential banning.
I am shocked to see a complete lack of action from Anet to fix the horrible impact of duping. Duping is like a disease... Just because you kill what originally spread the disease, doesn't mean you cure all those already sick... They are left to die...
EroChrono
Yes the price will go down, but hit rock bottom? I doubt it.
Of course we'll have to wait and see what ANet will do (which will have a big impact), but for now you have players that either try to get armbraces for dirt cheap (50k & lower) and people that will try to get the armbrace with "discount"; if it was 100k+60e now they will try to get it for 100k+40e to make it at least look more legit. While there are the players that are willing to offer the bigger amounts, the low ballers won't get any.
Of course we'll have to wait and see what ANet will do (which will have a big impact), but for now you have players that either try to get armbraces for dirt cheap (50k & lower) and people that will try to get the armbrace with "discount"; if it was 100k+60e now they will try to get it for 100k+40e to make it at least look more legit. While there are the players that are willing to offer the bigger amounts, the low ballers won't get any.
Griff Mon
People were selling them for 5K each in ToA last night after all this crap hit the fan. Sorry, did not take a screen shot. Warned my guild not to buy them.
zwei2stein
Armbraces are not going to recover.
Why? Because GWEN will make them pointless as everything points to fact that only selected gwen weapons will be monumentable.
Besides that, there will be new rare skins to farm for.
Both making legal armbraces pointless anyway.
Why? Because GWEN will make them pointless as everything points to fact that only selected gwen weapons will be monumentable.
Besides that, there will be new rare skins to farm for.
Both making legal armbraces pointless anyway.
Loviatar
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Banning is not enough. A total rollback must be done. People are not stupid. If I had 1000 armbraces, I'd quickly trade them in for torment weapons and then trade them to players for gold and ecto. If I had any left over, I'd quickly delete them before the bans started. It was easy to know when that happened because it was all posted on forums. If I didn't know about the forums, I'd do the above anyway, and I'd do it as quickly as possible within 2-3days because everyone knows about potential banning. I am shocked to see a complete lack of action from Anet to fix the horrible impact of duping. Duping is like a disease... Just because you kill what originally spread the disease, doesn't mean you cure all those already sick... They are left to die... |
-anet have NEVER made a bad update, may seem odd at first but it always ends up improivng the game for the better. have a litte fate.
Loviatar
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so one or more months playing time of millions of players is to be tossed out to restore loot for a few hundred?
sure thing sherlock
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Diddy bow
Even if all the duped armbraces were somhow removed i cant see them going above +20-30.. they will be stigmatised untill gw:en when they will be overshadowed unless gw:en has nothing rare 
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spellsword
People are selling them for 100k+ again.
mr_groovy
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People are selling them for 100k+ again.
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What do you think
Hmm let's sell my item that is worth around 350K + for less then 100K, Good deal!!
/sigh some people