Emo Title

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Basically a response to the Survivor title for older characters (since they never got a chance to obtain it).

Yes I know this has been suggested before but never in detail and never on its own.


EMO TITLE. (PVE ONLY TITLE)
Using the EMO Title will sometimes cause your char to change its physical appearance via a mask or held item. They are NON TRADABLE, will disappear once you take title OFF and require the corresponding free storage slot(s) on your char to be viewed)

Rank 1 : 2000 Deaths
Title Name: I'm going to the zoo.
(No effect)

Rank 2 : 4000 Deaths
Title Name: People think I’m happy.
(Happy Clown mask)

Rank 3 : 8000 Deaths
Title Name: I'm not happy.
(Sad Clown Mask)

Rank 4 : 16000 Deaths
Title Name: Everything can be fixed with Ice Cream.
(Char holds a drippy ice cream)

Rank 5: 24000 Deaths
Title Name: The System is Broken.
(all emote commands EXCEPT /resign, /favor, any others that affect game play cease working and cause char to sit down and cry -yes a new emote-)

Rank 6: 32000 Deaths
Title Name: I need a Hug.
(Sad Clown Mask, Drippy Ice Cream, Char will randomly do the The System is broken effect and say random stuff (life is pain life is emo, for example)


Maybe add more ranks, maybe 32000 Deaths is too much, I don’t feel it is personally.

This is FOR FUN and is in no way an attack on so called emos (whatever they may be) more of a nod at a seemingly growing phenomenon.
KEEP IT NICE PLEASE.

Some people rejected the very notion of titles for various reasons, counter-arguments can be found within the thread bellow.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3036011&page=1

clarianaeneas

clarianaeneas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/E

Ar Oh Ef El.

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

/Signed

But needs some changes.
The conditions of death would be nice.
I have a perfect spot than to Emo Fram.
Nightfallen Jahai.
take the quest in Gate of toment and hordes of toment mobs to slay you over and over again and you res just besides them so you can afk farm emo title.
So some conditions for anti farm the title

But this one of the most fun titles iff they would use it.
1 for me to max for my big ele she is E/Mo ^^

rancidgoat

rancidgoat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

[XoO] [AX]

N/Me

and when you get the max title you get an emote \cut where you pull out a razor blade and cut your arms! woot self mutilation ftw. Emo smiley-->

ps A-Net would have to do something about necros saccing and having a hero rez.

Mohnzh

Mohnzh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld...

[KCOR]

Mo/

I was just suggesting this to someone the other day while we were HM Sunsear farming =D. I think I might almost be rank 1.

/signed

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

lol interesting.

Could go down the wrong path though..

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Step 1: Walk outside outpost
Step 2: Run to a res shrine
Step 3: Pull a large group and remove all armor
Step 4: Let them kill you, you res at shrine, they attack and kill again
Step 5: Go to bed
Step 6: Wake up with a new title

No thanks.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

/signed

seems like an easy title to get

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

/signed My friend will love this title. I would love it too. True E/Mo's!

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Like i sad a few post before make conditions for it something like no more Emo points after 60% DP
And don't make the emote /cut
Not al emo's cut themselfs a friend of mine is as emo as you can get it and he writes songs, and darn good one's
And i don't cut myself either.

Rainbird

Rainbird

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

LDoA and emo, nice little bonus to all the deathleveling

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparda
Like i sad a few post before make conditions for it something like no more Emo points after 60% DP
And don't make the emote /cut
Not al emo's cut themselfs a friend of mine is as emo as you can get it and he writes songs, and darn good one's
And i don't cut myself either.
That's a good suggestion.
/signed if it incorporates the 60%DP thing.

Oh and make it inaccessible to Pre-sear characters. They don't need another reward for dieing.

monstersparkler

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

England

Love it, gimme now!

Government Flu

Government Flu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Paradoxa Zoloft Asylum [PXZ]

W/R

They already have a mass death title. Legendary Defender of Ascalon. How much more "emo" do you want? And for that matter, the whole /cut command is silly and doesn't belong in the game, even if it would be a light stab at a sniveling culture full of overtly emotional teenagers that cry when their girlfriend or boyfriend doesn't call them.

Me, I'm past that stage. And you will be too.

And then you'll hate every moment you ever considered yourself emo. So don't glorify this disgusting fourth horseman of rock.

lucifer_uk

lucifer_uk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Nottingham, England

The Venerable Truth [TvT] The Venerable Alliance [TvH] [TvL]

R/

Fail

/Notsigned

AFK titles suck.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

well i palyed 1,200 hours on my ele, 7000 deaths jsut under.

i seriously doubt anyone will get around 32,000

maybe max at 2000,
or make it liek 10,000 but account wide.


the /cut emote may seem fun but you have to consider children around 9 or 10 playing,seeing a character onscreen or his friend suing this emote. may try to copy.

maybe if costume changed into all black and the likes. and maybe that emo dance form south park or somthing.

Healers Wisper

Healers Wisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Anaheim, CA

BoMB

N/

I find this title funny. Being that my Necro already has 10,000 deaths I think this is cool. For all those whop complain about people farming this title, the answer is simple. Exempt it from all accomplishments and only make the emotes visible as a reward. Leave it out of KoBD and Favor system, then who cares if someone afk's at a rez shrine so they can have their toon sit and cry when you tell them to dance.

/signed

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Getting 32000 deaths stopping the count at 60dp just isn't possible. And not stopping the counter just means i'll stand by a res shrine dieing for a few nights.

All titles related to Death count suck in the same way titles based on experience do.

/notsigned

WarKaster

WarKaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Los Angeles

SlingBlades

D/Mo

awwwww I was expecting max Emo to be something like "All the Birds Are Dead" or "I Listened to Rippy the Razor"

Stoneydork

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fading Twilight

Rt/E

My ranger in Pre is going for the lvl 20 in pre title (foget name lol) but she has already racked up 34k deaths.. death titles would be too easy

Fighterdoken

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Getting 32000 deaths stopping the count at 60dp just isn't possible. And not stopping the counter just means i'll stand by a res shrine dieing for a few nights.
Quite possible actually. There is not DP in pre-searing (so that restriction won't count there) and your average Defender of Ascalon has around 100.000 deaths.

Would be a funny title anyways, but needs work.

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparda
Like i sad a few post before make conditions for it something like no more Emo points after 60% DP
And don't make the emote /cut
Not al emo's cut themselfs a friend of mine is as emo as you can get it and he writes songs, and darn good one's
And i don't cut myself either.
I agree on both. nice thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoneydork
My ranger in Pre is going for the lvl 20 in pre title (foget name lol) but she has already racked up 34k deaths.. death titles would be too easy
Maybe too low, need feedback from more players and the amounts of deaths they have. Personally after 1000+ hours playing on my necro i still have less that what is needed to obtain R1. If anything if you have 34k deaths i would say you deserve an Emo title.

about AFK leveling concering [ii]this[/i] title, perhaps a afk detection script that would boot people out of the game or into the last main city visited after X deaths with ZERO keybord input (does such a thing not exist already?)

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Ok i forgot there was no DP in Pre. i guess its a title that would not be available to pre players seeing as the only (?) way to get LDoA is to AFK death level. I suppose the Title could be triggered by a small NPC given quest just after noob island/pre in the way LB/SS titles are.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I would agree with a title that increases with deaths, as long as:

- Deaths with 60% penalty won't count.
- Use more logical names, like 'Martyr', 'Kamikaze', 'Bonzo', 'Suicidal',
- Can't be acquired if character has survivor or Defender of ascalon.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Death titles are stupid. Let me give you a list of work-arounds.

32000 deaths - Go afk in the Realm of Torment after pulling a few mobs
32000 deaths w/ keyboard response needed - Go afk in the Realm of Torment and move occasionally or set up a macro
32000 deaths w/ no counts after 60dp - Set up 3 heroes with Rebirth, get yourself down to 1 health, go afk and let heroes spam res you.
32000 deaths avoiding any possibilty of afking - not even remotely possible

My ranger has wracked up about 4200 deaths. This includes ~700 deaths from leveling 2 pets for my heroes. Lots and lots of runs in NF Jahai where i would start the run by dieing once. 32000 deaths is either completely un-attainable or would just be afk'd and as such a complete waste of time.

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Death titles are stupid. Let me give you a list of work-arounds.

32000 deaths - Go afk in the Realm of Torment after pulling a few mobs
32000 deaths w/ keyboard response needed - Go afk in the Realm of Torment and move occasionally or set up a macro
32000 deaths w/ no counts after 60dp - Set up 3 heroes with Rebirth, get yourself down to 1 health, go afk and let heroes spam res you.
32000 deaths avoiding any possibilty of afking - not even remotely possible

My ranger has wracked up about 4200 deaths. This includes ~700 deaths from leveling 2 pets for my heroes. Lots and lots of runs in NF Jahai where i would start the run by dieing once. 32000 deaths is either completely un-attainable or would just be afk'd and as such a complete waste of time.
There are few titles which require absurd amounts of "X" to Max out (faction for example)

There are a few titles that have NO max rank

There are a few titles that require nothing but the occasional mouse click.

If you are going to use macros...well then for starters I’m not sure that’s not considered cheating, and secondly ALL titles heck the WHOLE GAME could be done AFK.

There are more than a few titles that have AFK value only already, yet people like to show them off.(and some do absolutely nothing, not even a cosmetic change...even worse some are actually useful. which is worse IMO but there you go)

You are already trying to find ways to max the title....well some people might use similar methods to max it...there’s nothing wrong with that, is their game-time.

If a person kills their char deliberately at the start of every farm run...I think the char would probably be unhappy with his condition.

32000 deaths are very difficult to obtain in a year yes. We are clearly not thinking in the same time-frame. For me obtaining a R2 in treasure hunter has taken 2 YEARS. Yes some people can get it in what...weeks? Kudos to them.

Please be critical if you must, but use arguments that the general playerbase would use, all I need now is for someone to come out and tell me emo title would make people hack into Anet servers with a NSA supercomputer just to obtain it. After all, anything’s possible.

One thing I retain is that you are proposing (it’s a proposal?) to lower the number of deaths for max rank I’m just afraid that lowering the requirement would make people think it’s more easily obtainable via methods you described. How many deaths do you suggest?

Paul Mahdi

Paul Mahdi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fort Worth, Texas

[HS]

N/Me

I think this idea is ok as long as you make the title names different (even though they are funny) and get rid of the visual changes. This title is way to easy to have visual rewards.

xaleo21

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Washington, USA

Doesn't matter anymore.

/notsigned

It IS an attack on the social position "Emo".
It's a ridiculous name anyways. And no one should brag about the most deaths... it's something to laugh at.

GW is sort of a "perfect" world... threats to vanquish that aren't too dangerous and no real differences within it's society (Noobs are just the kids and everyone is decent looking).

Conjur me

Conjur me

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

GUild Of Horrilbe Spellers

Mo/Me

i like the idea of a title for chars before the surviror title but this is to easy to farm /not sighned

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Legendary defender of ascalon+max emo title together ftw?

shrillex

shrillex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

USA

P/W

lol this would an awesome title

/signed

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
There are few titles which require absurd amounts of "X" to Max out (faction for example)
Yet they all require some commitment, whether it be time or money (or both).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
There are a few titles that have NO max rank
Wrong. All titles have been given a max. The max is simply raised every once and a while.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
There are a few titles that require nothing but the occasional mouse click.
Occasional mouse click, over a few months. Even the Lucky and Unlucky titles are more logical than a deaths title, both require a huge amount of gold to get.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
If you are going to use macros...well then for starters I’m not sure that’s not considered cheating, and secondly ALL titles heck the WHOLE GAME could be done AFK.
I'd love to see you try.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
There are more than a few titles that have AFK value only already, yet people like to show them off.(and some do absolutely nothing, not even a cosmetic change...even worse some are actually useful. which is worse IMO but there you go)
Titles were made to be cosmetic. If you have a problem with this, why would you want another "useless" title?

Besides, the only AFK titles are the Lucky and Unlucky, which as I already said, require a huge amount of gold.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
You are already trying to find ways to max the title....well some people might use similar methods to max it...there’s nothing wrong with that, is their game-time.
Shows how bad an idea this title is, doesn't it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
If a person kills their char deliberately at the start of every farm run...I think the char would probably be unhappy with his condition.
What does that even matter? You're the one going for a title that would make people's characters die much more than necessary.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
32000 deaths are very difficult to obtain in a year yes. We are clearly not thinking in the same time-frame. For me obtaining a R2 in treasure hunter has taken 2 YEARS. Yes some people can get it in what...weeks? Kudos to them.
A year? Try a week or so.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
Please be critical if you must, but use arguments that the general playerbase would use, all I need now is for someone to come out and tell me emo title would make people hack into Anet servers with a NSA supercomputer just to obtain it. After all, anything’s possible.
Then they would get promptly banned (maybe even tracked down and arrested). Really, most of the arguments here would be used. You think we're the only ones who would see the huge problems with the idea?



You've ignored that fact that every other title requires something from the player. It can be in the form of time, money or both. This title, requires neither.

Besides, Gaile has always persisted that there will not be a deaths title, due to it being too easy to afk.

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Gaile has said a lot of things. Its not all set in stone.

1. this title requires time, how could you have missed that. AFK time is still time, like i said people ALREADY AFK titles, if thats they want to get it well then no system is going to stop them. I dont think most people would do it that way.

2. what is the maxed Max title rank? R3? R4? what is commander max title rank? Cobra? and if they are raised every once in a while is that not the same as saying "no limit?" Semantics.

3. As for macros OC its possible.(im not the one who proposed that in the first place) anything is possible.

4. Titles were made to show/reward dedication and no i do not have a problem with it. (re)read what i am responding to.

5. Like i Mentioned in the OP if you have a problems with TITLES in general take it elsewhere. AFK titles exist. Titles exist, some do nothing some do stuff they are part of the game now.

6. Why does it matter? is that a argument? pont of view? what are you trying to get accross? Oh that you dont like the title ok.

7. you suggest raising the number of deaths then. to how many?

yesitsrob

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

Not even funny

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

/not signed

Just because you "die a lot" doesn't make you an emo. I think this is really stupid and offensive.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

This title would be exactly the same than Sweettooth or gamer, but it wouldn't cost you anything.

/signed

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Step 1: Walk outside outpost
Step 2: Run to a res shrine
Step 3: Pull a large group and remove all armor
Step 4: Let them kill you, you res at shrine, they attack and kill again
Step 5: Go to bed
Step 6: Wake up with a new title

No thanks.
Legendary
Defender
of
Ascalon


yesplz.

yesitsrob

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

Not even funny

emoxcore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

No Guild

N/

my pre character allready has 166k deaths so you would deff need more ranks.

Steps_Descending

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Death titles are stupid.
That'S the whole point! Why did they add Drunkard if not for fun.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
32000 deaths - Go afk in the Realm of Torment after pulling a few mobs
Solution : no point after 60% DP (easiest anti farm code)
32000 deaths w/ keyboard response needed - Go afk in the Realm of Torment and move occasionally or set up a macro
Solution : no point after 60% DP (easiest anti farm code)
32000 deaths w/ no counts after 60dp - Set up 3 heroes with Rebirth, get yourself down to 1 health, go afk and let heroes spam res you.
Solution : rebirth still give you DP
32000 deaths avoiding any possibilty of afking - not even remotely possible
Solution : probably possible but people will still find a way to get it non-legit. but ANYTHING in the game is farmable/trickable.
(responses are in the quote)
I thought it was said enough already that there SHOULD be an anti farm code... /sigh Some people are just slow to understand.

PS : sorry for any insults concerning your intelligence

EDIT : /signed I'm on the edge today.