Drunkard title changes
exoticman
The drunkard title needs to be changed in my opinion. The sweet tooth title is hard because of the need to collect the sweets. That should be the hard part in the drunkard title too. The drunkard title is hard to obtain due to the enormous amounts of time spent drinking. If you would like to see the drunkard title changed to alchohol consumed instead of time spent drunk sign this thread please.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by exoticman
The drunkard title needs to be changed in my opinion. The sweet tooth title is hard because of the need to collect the sweets. That should be the hard part in the drunkard title too. The drunkard title is hard to obtain due to the enormous amounts of time spent drinking. If you would like to see the drunkard title changed to alchohol consumed instead of time spent drunk sign this thread please.
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take the time to get it or forget it
i got mine you get yours lazy
otherwise you are simply buying the title
KamikazeChicken
You're buying the title anyway. Why not give people an easy way to obtain it, since they can't simply zone as easily as before.
I see a lot more people going for Sweet Tooth than drunkard because all it takes is a little clicking. >.>
I see a lot more people going for Sweet Tooth than drunkard because all it takes is a little clicking. >.>
MithranArkanere
I'll go for the change. Othersie it makes some people use bot-like macros to make this automatically anyways.
Although I still think it's more important to give drunkard efect icons like sweet rushes have.
Although I still think it's more important to give drunkard efect icons like sweet rushes have.
Evilsod
Why not... i zoned my Ale Hound title during the last Wintersday and they supposadly 'fixed' zoning.
jrk247
I think this idea is lame, you don't see that many Drunkards running around which is what makes the title fun to have. I got drunkard without zoning or using a macro, I got it the legit way and it was a pain but it was worth it. So if you really want the title suck it up and get it. Doesn't make sense imo to just count how many drinks you've had. Too many people can max out the sweet tooth title by just buying sweets and clicking. The drunkard title is fine how it is, it doesn't need to be like the sweet tooth title.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Bazompora
Even though I don't have the title, I don't think the Drunkard title track should be simply turned into Sweet Tooth title track II.
It would simply remove that what makes it the Drunkard title track, i.e. being drunk often.
I'd rather give my vote to this.
It would simply remove that what makes it the Drunkard title track, i.e. being drunk often.
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Although I still think it's more important to give drunkard efect icons like sweet rushes have.
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jhu
i got incorrigible ale hound, and let me tell you it was a complete waste of my time. a change to just clicking would have been quite preferable.
/signed
/signed
MithranArkanere
Well... some GW:EN PvE skills give reasons for for going drunk all over the place...
Reptile
I think I should get a title for being a Tea-totaler for the over two years he's been alive! lol.. resisted the 'easy' (compared to some) title for my Rank 3 maxed....
TigMagick
/signed
Its been a "family" thing to sit on the computer and try to count the mins while doing the drunk title.... PLease making this a little easyer
Its been a "family" thing to sit on the computer and try to count the mins while doing the drunk title.... PLease making this a little easyer
SergeLo001
/notsigned, sorry but its just meant to be the way it is.
However totally /signed the part that u need the icon that tells you how long you are still drunk. it would also let you know if you are drunk or not, that made me angry, when i never knew if i should drink another o not .
i remember i thought of this before a while back but later completelly forgot about it. thanks to whoever brought it up!!
However totally /signed the part that u need the icon that tells you how long you are still drunk. it would also let you know if you are drunk or not, that made me angry, when i never knew if i should drink another o not .
i remember i thought of this before a while back but later completelly forgot about it. thanks to whoever brought it up!!
MisterB
I don't like the OP's idea, at all. Even if it would make it easier for me to get from Drunkard to Incorrigible Ale Hound, Drunk title track is not Sweet Tooth. I would like a small change to make it easier to track, though.
Drunkard became more difficult when they changed how titles are displayed in the hero window. Now, I have to scroll past every title that has more than one rank just to see the number of minutes. Every time it adds another minute, I can then consume more booze. I realize there is a visual effect when drunk, and it is definitely noticeable, but I have to turn off Post-process while drinking, or it makes me ill.
I would really appeciate an icon on the effects monitor, preferrably with either 3 or 5 levels, or changes. Actually, they could use the "adrenaline" effect on the icon to show how "drunk" you are, that could be neat.
Drunkard became more difficult when they changed how titles are displayed in the hero window. Now, I have to scroll past every title that has more than one rank just to see the number of minutes. Every time it adds another minute, I can then consume more booze. I realize there is a visual effect when drunk, and it is definitely noticeable, but I have to turn off Post-process while drinking, or it makes me ill.
I would really appeciate an icon on the effects monitor, preferrably with either 3 or 5 levels, or changes. Actually, they could use the "adrenaline" effect on the icon to show how "drunk" you are, that could be neat.
HKSdivision
/notsigned.
I worked to get my Drunkard (none of that cheap zoning crap) so you should too! When someone compliments me on the title it makes me feel good because not everyone has it and it's a title that you actually have to work for.
I worked to get my Drunkard (none of that cheap zoning crap) so you should too! When someone compliments me on the title it makes me feel good because not everyone has it and it's a title that you actually have to work for.
SergeLo001
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Originally Posted by MisterB
I would really appeciate an icon on the effects monitor, preferrably with either 3 or 5 levels, or changes. Actually, they could use the "adrenaline" effect on the icon to show how "drunk" you are, that could be neat.
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MisterB
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Originally Posted by SergeLo001
what u really want is the little bar beneath the effect. just like with the enchantments and shouts and so on...
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That's why I suggested an "adrenaline" icon, since those increase in level already, and would hopefully require less work to code.
Probably a combination of both would be ideal, it could display on your screen once you reach "level" 3 intoxicated, with a 1-minute duration bar, and one "strike" of intoxication, represented by the adrenaline graphic on the icon. Then, every subsequent ale adds another minute to the duration bar, and a further "strike" to the icon, so that it is fully lit at level 5 intoxication.
Honestly, though, I would be happy with any icon, I'm just throwing out ideas on how one could be implemented, as there is no real explanation in-game on how the drunkard effect works.
Granted, your screen blurs worse every level, but I have to turn that effect off, as it really does make me sick.
jrk247
I think it'd be better if they give you a effect icon at the top of the screen (like with tonics) as soon as you reach level 3 drunk, and it adds 2 more icons when you get to level 5 and they go away after a minute.
So let's say I use a Spiked Nog, I have the lev 3 lev 4 lev 5 drunk icons on the top of the screen, then a minute goes by and the level 5 icon goes away and so on. It would be easier to keep track and if you slack off by a minute or 2 and still have level 3 you can just drink some more so you don't have to restart.
I have my drunkard title got it a little under a year ago and I have no plans on going for Ale Hound but I still think the icon idea would be nice. Just clicking the booze and getting points is lame, it's the amount of time you are drunk not the amount of drinks.
So let's say I use a Spiked Nog, I have the lev 3 lev 4 lev 5 drunk icons on the top of the screen, then a minute goes by and the level 5 icon goes away and so on. It would be easier to keep track and if you slack off by a minute or 2 and still have level 3 you can just drink some more so you don't have to restart.
I have my drunkard title got it a little under a year ago and I have no plans on going for Ale Hound but I still think the icon idea would be nice. Just clicking the booze and getting points is lame, it's the amount of time you are drunk not the amount of drinks.
Seppi
/notsigned
It's a pretty bad idea to piss off everyone who has spent 10000 minutes getting the title because they could have eventually waited to do it in far less time. 170 hours of watching and waiting as opposed to 10 minutes of button clicking is a big difference.
It's a pretty bad idea to piss off everyone who has spent 10000 minutes getting the title because they could have eventually waited to do it in far less time. 170 hours of watching and waiting as opposed to 10 minutes of button clicking is a big difference.
Shadowmoon
and how many people did it legit may i ask. If you don't remember the zoning trick was around for a while, also drunkard bots exist. I'm glad u feel proud of a "money sink" title, but i think a method like sweettooth would be better, or reintroduce the zoning bug which everyone i know who has the title used.
HKSdivision
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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
and how many people did it legit may i ask. If you don't remember the zoning trick was around for a while, also drunkard bots exist. I'm glad u feel proud of a "money sink" title, but i think a method like sweettooth would be better, or reintroduce the zoning bug which everyone i know who has the title used.
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exoticman
So.... the majority of people don't want the change that i suggested earlier which is fine, I was just curious. However, would you all disagreables agree with some sort of icon, like an adrenaline icon, that would help you determine level and therefore when to drink alchohol? If so, we could create another thread suggesting this to game developers.
TheRaven
I'd like a little icon. I don't want it to change into a clickable title like Sweet Tooth however.
I'm thinking that the best icon would be something like the Spear of Archemous or that Kurzick Urn uses. It flashes and the text changes with each level from 1 to 5.
Personally, I think an effect with be neat as well, like run 10% slower when level 3 drunk, 25% slower with level 4 and 50% slower with level 5 and when fighting you miss more when you're drunker. After all that's how drunk works in real life. But I suppose this would be extremely unpopular for all you drink and fight advocates.
I'm thinking that the best icon would be something like the Spear of Archemous or that Kurzick Urn uses. It flashes and the text changes with each level from 1 to 5.
Personally, I think an effect with be neat as well, like run 10% slower when level 3 drunk, 25% slower with level 4 and 50% slower with level 5 and when fighting you miss more when you're drunker. After all that's how drunk works in real life. But I suppose this would be extremely unpopular for all you drink and fight advocates.
jrk247
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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
and how many people did it legit may i ask. If you don't remember the zoning trick was around for a while, also drunkard bots exist. I'm glad u feel proud of a "money sink" title, but i think a method like sweettooth would be better, or reintroduce the zoning bug which everyone i know who has the title used.
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Seppi
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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
I'm glad u feel proud of a "money sink" title, but i think a method like sweettooth would be better, or reintroduce the zoning bug which everyone i know who has the title used.
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I suppose I'm missing something somewhere. >.>
MithranArkanere
Drunkard should be GOLD sink, not a time sink.
They changed the Kurcick/Luxon so now it's much easier to obtain,and you see no one complaining about it.
So. Just go for it. Effect icons and points per use (1..5 depending on which alcoholik drink is).
And drunkard will be perfect.
They changed the Kurcick/Luxon so now it's much easier to obtain,and you see no one complaining about it.
So. Just go for it. Effect icons and points per use (1..5 depending on which alcoholik drink is).
And drunkard will be perfect.
genofreek
Yeah... I have a ton of booze saved up, but I haven't banked enough for even Drunkard yet because even when I'm in an outpost being social or playing 9 Rings, I'm never bored enough to bust out the stopwatch. I'd prefer either the Sweet Tooth clicking or at least an effect icon so I can be sure I'm not wasting drinks.
I planned to zone, but that can't happen anymore, so I'll probably end up selling two years' worth of carefully saved and budgeted booze.
I planned to zone, but that can't happen anymore, so I'll probably end up selling two years' worth of carefully saved and budgeted booze.
korcan
i got to around 300+ minutes of clicking and watching my drunkard title increase by one, when i realised that the title was not for me.
i dont think changing it to reflect alcohol consumed as opposed to minutes drunk is a good idea though.
however, i do agree that there should be an effect that helps you keep track of time.
i dont think changing it to reflect alcohol consumed as opposed to minutes drunk is a good idea though.
however, i do agree that there should be an effect that helps you keep track of time.
MagmaRed
Your title menu tells you all you need to advance this easily. Only time it becomes hard is if you are trying to do quests/missions while drinking.
Hunters Ale is easy to get by turning in quest reward items, and it the low level alcohol. Drink 5 straight, which takes you to Drunk level 5. Watch your Drunkard title, when it goes up by 2 minutes, you are at Drunk level 3. Drink more alocohol, and watch the title change.
Boring, yes, but effective. Websites like Wiki have well defined stats for all alcohol items. If you read up on them, and know how much to use, you can easily use the title menu as your stopwatch.
Hunters Ale is easy to get by turning in quest reward items, and it the low level alcohol. Drink 5 straight, which takes you to Drunk level 5. Watch your Drunkard title, when it goes up by 2 minutes, you are at Drunk level 3. Drink more alocohol, and watch the title change.
Boring, yes, but effective. Websites like Wiki have well defined stats for all alcohol items. If you read up on them, and know how much to use, you can easily use the title menu as your stopwatch.
MithranArkanere
Oh, yes, by having half the screen taken up by the hero panel.
And looking at it every single minute it's a pain, since with many titles scrolling and looking for it is way too slow.
Nay, in GW:EN there are skills with extra effects if you are drunk, so you'll be able to increase the title either by just clicking or by using the alcohol, since you will want to stay drunk or those skills.
It would be the same like with sweet items. You can just use them up, or save them to to make the most of their effects.
Both options will be there. Both options is better than just one.
And looking at it every single minute it's a pain, since with many titles scrolling and looking for it is way too slow.
Nay, in GW:EN there are skills with extra effects if you are drunk, so you'll be able to increase the title either by just clicking or by using the alcohol, since you will want to stay drunk or those skills.
It would be the same like with sweet items. You can just use them up, or save them to to make the most of their effects.
Both options will be there. Both options is better than just one.
Jetdoc
/not signed. I personally like the way the drunkard title works, and am very happy about having level one on each of my characters - it's the only title I display (other than Lightbringer when I'm in Nightfall)...