Drunkard title changes

exoticman

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Raging Demonz

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The drunkard title needs to be changed in my opinion. The sweet tooth title is hard because of the need to collect the sweets. That should be the hard part in the drunkard title too. The drunkard title is hard to obtain due to the enormous amounts of time spent drinking. If you would like to see the drunkard title changed to alchohol consumed instead of time spent drunk sign this thread please.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by exoticman
The drunkard title needs to be changed in my opinion. The sweet tooth title is hard because of the need to collect the sweets. That should be the hard part in the drunkard title too. The drunkard title is hard to obtain due to the enormous amounts of time spent drinking. If you would like to see the drunkard title changed to alchohol consumed instead of time spent drunk sign this thread please.
that is the purpose otherwise it is simply how fast i can click.

take the time to get it or forget it

i got mine you get yours lazy

otherwise you are simply buying the title

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

You're buying the title anyway. Why not give people an easy way to obtain it, since they can't simply zone as easily as before.

I see a lot more people going for Sweet Tooth than drunkard because all it takes is a little clicking. >.>

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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I'll go for the change. Othersie it makes some people use bot-like macros to make this automatically anyways.

Although I still think it's more important to give drunkard efect icons like sweet rushes have.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Why not... i zoned my Ale Hound title during the last Wintersday and they supposadly 'fixed' zoning.

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

I think this idea is lame, you don't see that many Drunkards running around which is what makes the title fun to have. I got drunkard without zoning or using a macro, I got it the legit way and it was a pain but it was worth it. So if you really want the title suck it up and get it. Doesn't make sense imo to just count how many drinks you've had. Too many people can max out the sweet tooth title by just buying sweets and clicking. The drunkard title is fine how it is, it doesn't need to be like the sweet tooth title.

/notsigned

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Even though I don't have the title, I don't think the Drunkard title track should be simply turned into Sweet Tooth title track II.
It would simply remove that what makes it the Drunkard title track, i.e. being drunk often.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Although I still think it's more important to give drunkard efect icons like sweet rushes have.
I'd rather give my vote to this.

jhu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

i got incorrigible ale hound, and let me tell you it was a complete waste of my time. a change to just clicking would have been quite preferable.

/signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Well... some GW:EN PvE skills give reasons for for going drunk all over the place...

Reptile

Reptile

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vanguard of the Forsaken

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I think I should get a title for being a Tea-totaler for the over two years he's been alive! lol.. resisted the 'easy' (compared to some) title for my Rank 3 maxed....

TigMagick

TigMagick

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Gods Ravan [GR]

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/signed

Its been a "family" thing to sit on the computer and try to count the mins while doing the drunk title.... PLease making this a little easyer

SergeLo001

SergeLo001

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

USA, CA

Im Using Signet of Shut Your [FACE]

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/notsigned, sorry but its just meant to be the way it is.

However totally /signed the part that u need the icon that tells you how long you are still drunk. it would also let you know if you are drunk or not, that made me angry, when i never knew if i should drink another o not .
i remember i thought of this before a while back but later completelly forgot about it. thanks to whoever brought it up!!

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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I don't like the OP's idea, at all. Even if it would make it easier for me to get from Drunkard to Incorrigible Ale Hound, Drunk title track is not Sweet Tooth. I would like a small change to make it easier to track, though.

Drunkard became more difficult when they changed how titles are displayed in the hero window. Now, I have to scroll past every title that has more than one rank just to see the number of minutes. Every time it adds another minute, I can then consume more booze. I realize there is a visual effect when drunk, and it is definitely noticeable, but I have to turn off Post-process while drinking, or it makes me ill.

I would really appeciate an icon on the effects monitor, preferrably with either 3 or 5 levels, or changes. Actually, they could use the "adrenaline" effect on the icon to show how "drunk" you are, that could be neat.

HKSdivision

HKSdivision

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

/notsigned.

I worked to get my Drunkard (none of that cheap zoning crap) so you should too! When someone compliments me on the title it makes me feel good because not everyone has it and it's a title that you actually have to work for.

SergeLo001

SergeLo001

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

USA, CA

Im Using Signet of Shut Your [FACE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB
I would really appeciate an icon on the effects monitor, preferrably with either 3 or 5 levels, or changes. Actually, they could use the "adrenaline" effect on the icon to show how "drunk" you are, that could be neat.
what u really want is the little bar beneath the effect. just like with the enchantments and shouts and so on...

MisterB

MisterB

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SergeLo001
what u really want is the little bar beneath the effect. just like with the enchantments and shouts and so on...
A duration bar would be nice, sure, but I would like an icon with a visual change every minute, be it a "flash," or a change to another icon depending on level.
That's why I suggested an "adrenaline" icon, since those increase in level already, and would hopefully require less work to code.

Probably a combination of both would be ideal, it could display on your screen once you reach "level" 3 intoxicated, with a 1-minute duration bar, and one "strike" of intoxication, represented by the adrenaline graphic on the icon. Then, every subsequent ale adds another minute to the duration bar, and a further "strike" to the icon, so that it is fully lit at level 5 intoxication.

Honestly, though, I would be happy with any icon, I'm just throwing out ideas on how one could be implemented, as there is no real explanation in-game on how the drunkard effect works.

Granted, your screen blurs worse every level, but I have to turn that effect off, as it really does make me sick.

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

I think it'd be better if they give you a effect icon at the top of the screen (like with tonics) as soon as you reach level 3 drunk, and it adds 2 more icons when you get to level 5 and they go away after a minute.

So let's say I use a Spiked Nog, I have the lev 3 lev 4 lev 5 drunk icons on the top of the screen, then a minute goes by and the level 5 icon goes away and so on. It would be easier to keep track and if you slack off by a minute or 2 and still have level 3 you can just drink some more so you don't have to restart.

I have my drunkard title got it a little under a year ago and I have no plans on going for Ale Hound but I still think the icon idea would be nice. Just clicking the booze and getting points is lame, it's the amount of time you are drunk not the amount of drinks.

Seppi

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Behind you O.o

The League Of Extraordinary [NUBS]

Mo/

/notsigned
It's a pretty bad idea to piss off everyone who has spent 10000 minutes getting the title because they could have eventually waited to do it in far less time. 170 hours of watching and waiting as opposed to 10 minutes of button clicking is a big difference.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

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and how many people did it legit may i ask. If you don't remember the zoning trick was around for a while, also drunkard bots exist. I'm glad u feel proud of a "money sink" title, but i think a method like sweettooth would be better, or reintroduce the zoning bug which everyone i know who has the title used.

HKSdivision

HKSdivision

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
and how many people did it legit may i ask. If you don't remember the zoning trick was around for a while, also drunkard bots exist. I'm glad u feel proud of a "money sink" title, but i think a method like sweettooth would be better, or reintroduce the zoning bug which everyone i know who has the title used.
Like I said in my previous post, I'm one of those people who got my Drunkard title the legit way. If they made the title like the sweet tooth then that would make it another easily and pointless title to get since all you have to do is keep clicking for Sweet Tooth. The drunk title is fine the way it is, if you don't want to take your time to work for it then don't even bother trying because no one is forcing you but if you want it then you better get working on it and quit complaining about how long it takes to get it.

exoticman

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Raging Demonz

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So.... the majority of people don't want the change that i suggested earlier which is fine, I was just curious. However, would you all disagreables agree with some sort of icon, like an adrenaline icon, that would help you determine level and therefore when to drink alchohol? If so, we could create another thread suggesting this to game developers.

TheRaven

TheRaven

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

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I'd like a little icon. I don't want it to change into a clickable title like Sweet Tooth however.

I'm thinking that the best icon would be something like the Spear of Archemous or that Kurzick Urn uses. It flashes and the text changes with each level from 1 to 5.

Personally, I think an effect with be neat as well, like run 10% slower when level 3 drunk, 25% slower with level 4 and 50% slower with level 5 and when fighting you miss more when you're drunker. After all that's how drunk works in real life. But I suppose this would be extremely unpopular for all you drink and fight advocates.

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
and how many people did it legit may i ask. If you don't remember the zoning trick was around for a while, also drunkard bots exist. I'm glad u feel proud of a "money sink" title, but i think a method like sweettooth would be better, or reintroduce the zoning bug which everyone i know who has the title used.
Yeah it's people like you that I just lol at and I bet you think everyone with FoW eBay'd it along with everything else they own? I got my drunkard title without cheating, no zoning and no macro or w/e the hell people use. Took me about a week of drinking for a few hours a day to get my drunkard title. And I really don't care what people think because I got my title the legit way and I know I did. Oh and not too many people knew about the zoning trick, I remember reading about it after I got drunkard and just started laughing.

Seppi

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Behind you O.o

The League Of Extraordinary [NUBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon
I'm glad u feel proud of a "money sink" title, but i think a method like sweettooth would be better, or reintroduce the zoning bug which everyone i know who has the title used.
I'm sorry, I might just be retarded; but isn't sweet tooth a money sink and drunkard a time sink as well as a money sink?
I suppose I'm missing something somewhere. >.>

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Drunkard should be GOLD sink, not a time sink.

They changed the Kurcick/Luxon so now it's much easier to obtain,and you see no one complaining about it.

So. Just go for it. Effect icons and points per use (1..5 depending on which alcoholik drink is).
And drunkard will be perfect.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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Yeah... I have a ton of booze saved up, but I haven't banked enough for even Drunkard yet because even when I'm in an outpost being social or playing 9 Rings, I'm never bored enough to bust out the stopwatch. I'd prefer either the Sweet Tooth clicking or at least an effect icon so I can be sure I'm not wasting drinks.

I planned to zone, but that can't happen anymore, so I'll probably end up selling two years' worth of carefully saved and budgeted booze.

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

i got to around 300+ minutes of clicking and watching my drunkard title increase by one, when i realised that the title was not for me.

i dont think changing it to reflect alcohol consumed as opposed to minutes drunk is a good idea though.

however, i do agree that there should be an effect that helps you keep track of time.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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Your title menu tells you all you need to advance this easily. Only time it becomes hard is if you are trying to do quests/missions while drinking.

Hunters Ale is easy to get by turning in quest reward items, and it the low level alcohol. Drink 5 straight, which takes you to Drunk level 5. Watch your Drunkard title, when it goes up by 2 minutes, you are at Drunk level 3. Drink more alocohol, and watch the title change.

Boring, yes, but effective. Websites like Wiki have well defined stats for all alcohol items. If you read up on them, and know how much to use, you can easily use the title menu as your stopwatch.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Oh, yes, by having half the screen taken up by the hero panel.

And looking at it every single minute it's a pain, since with many titles scrolling and looking for it is way too slow.

Nay, in GW:EN there are skills with extra effects if you are drunk, so you'll be able to increase the title either by just clicking or by using the alcohol, since you will want to stay drunk or those skills.
It would be the same like with sweet items. You can just use them up, or save them to to make the most of their effects.

Both options will be there. Both options is better than just one.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

/not signed. I personally like the way the drunkard title works, and am very happy about having level one on each of my characters - it's the only title I display (other than Lightbringer when I'm in Nightfall)...