Change Recent Bans From Permanent To A Time Limit

edmiaston

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2007

envy

R/N

Some people where unjustly banned and should have a second chance at thier account i think that if u do something wrong u should get a second chance or parol...

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

nope. ppl deserving a permanent ban did something extremely wrong for the game sake and i'm sure all the legit players dont wanna them in again.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

So you can exploit something else? No.

trielementz

trielementz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Spectra Sg [SpcA]

W/Mo

no way. people like me actually played for so long to be able to afford a legit armbrace. to think people just duplicate em pisses me off so much. i gather that u are one of those

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

Nah,
No second chance.

We have our Hero and that is enough, we wont remember you edmiaston (or whatever).

The only one that last forever is *drum roll*

Chunky Monkey!!!!!

And before you go now ZOMG, whats he on about? think about it:

1. He was so darn insolent to attempt a trade that is worth like 55.000 $ in real world money* not caring about people getting suspicious (WOW, would you have that courage?)

2. He got a sweet little picture of this super power trade:
http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x...rent=gw666.jpg
(unfortunately, he only got 3 out of 5 "roxxor" points not posting the picture himself. Btw I wonder what he wanted to buy/trade from Max Gladius.. His festival tickets? that would definitely give him another "roxxor" point!)

3. He was a Wammo! (left bottom corner of Maxs wonderful picture if you don't believe me)

4. He even comes to the guildwarsguru forums under the same name as ingame. The one he used to pull his little trick off. This is so godlike I don't even have words for it (even the Devil wears disguises).
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...91&postcount=8

5. He even explains to us, Joe Averages, how he did his magic trick: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ostcount=909)?
(oh well, he pulls the little friend trick, but hey that is just criminals jargon you see, they talk like that).

So tell me is that not reason enough?

P.s. Guyz, the guildwars community can be very happy that those guyz didn't have a brain...

P.p.s second time i posted this, but I just wanted to pay tribute to so much stupidity

P.p.p.s ROFL from the funniest name thread: Duping Was Chunky

* if ingame currency would have been purchased at ebay

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cry more .

FenrirOfSleipnir

FenrirOfSleipnir

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Netherlands

Exclusive Club

W/

The only responses I see right now are those fueled by paranoia and angst.
You honestly think everyone that got banned is guilty? Seriously, you need to get a mental check.

Every single justice system has his flaws, and the biggest one being that the people performing their justice only look at their side of t he story and strike down their hammer upon all those that they find guilty.
How many innocents get sent away that way on a yearly basis?
no, don't even try to count it on your fingers and toes, you'll have to speed grow a couple dozen more.

My point is, don't react so strongly on the subject but think with an objective mind. Everyone that's a returning visitor of these forums and posts here frequently loves the game (I hope) and would put their hand in searing coals for it (figuratively speaking, unless you're a masochist).

And I do support Anet in their fixing of the problem, just not the way they handled it, seeing as they just went over a few criteria and swept a broom over their database.

vaxmor

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

re: timebandits post

it would be hilarious if ANet made a new skill 'Duping was Chunky'.

evilkingsky

evilkingsky

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

California

Resurrect Me [Help]

N/Mo

2nd chance = buy a new copy of the game from the store

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

no second chances.

piss off


darwin wins


kthx

Ben-A-BoO

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

Huh?

Fenrir.. the OP was asking to change ALL recent Bans from perma to time limit..
I can understand that you want Chunky Monkey back in the game after a few updates so we can check if Anet forgot something but ALL of them is just to risky. Some might actually use brain, which is very dangerous.

And do you think Anet really wiped their whole database of all that dc'd more then lets say 700 times in the last two weeks?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Those who made an innocent purchase have very little to worry about. The accounts of those who were banned were examined with care and consideration, using extensive research to assure that the appropriate action was taken. It is highly unlikely that these players can successfully appeal their banning.
P.s. do you really expect a objective, thoughtful, caring reply to such a post at this time? The only place to deal with your ban is here: http://support.guildwars.com

Heads up,
Timebandit

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by FenrirOfSleipnir
The only responses I see right now are those fueled by paranoia and angst.
You honestly think everyone that got banned is guilty? Seriously, you need to get a mental check.
Yes, actually, I do think that everyone that got their account wiped the last 2 days was guilty.

Quote:
Every single justice system has his flaws, and the biggest one being that the people performing their justice only look at their side of t he story and strike down their hammer upon all those that they find guilty.
How many innocents get sent away that way on a yearly basis?
no, don't even try to count it on your fingers and toes, you'll have to speed grow a couple dozen more.
This isnt a justice system, there's no gray areas, there's no lawyers or debate. Anet has the absolute right to delete accounts for whatever grounds they want. Which is why I said everyone was guilty.

Quote:
My point is, don't react so strongly on the subject but think with an objective mind. Everyone that's a returning visitor of these forums and posts here frequently loves the game (I hope) and would put their hand in searing coals for it (figuratively speaking, unless you're a masochist).
Your point is kinda irrelevant since we're not talking about a 'justice system' but about a commercial business banning you from their property for undesirable behavior.

Quote:
And I do support Anet in their fixing of the problem, just not the way they handled it, seeing as they just went over a few criteria and swept a broom over their database.
How else where they going to handle it, a public trial maybe? They selected the criteria and acted on them, I'm perfectly happy with it. If anyone feels they've been banned unjustly they can contact support and see if they are willing to reverse the decision.

boost291

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

(XoO) Xen Of The Pacific

R/Me

i dont see what the problem is if they get a second chance.
its not like they downloaded third party software to dupe the items.
They found an error in the game, and used legitimate practice to get the items, its anets fault these people were banned

Suuk

Suuk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

the Netherlands

Lovers of Whisky and Women (LWW)

E/

Stop asking the same in different threads! It is useless.

(he also started this one)
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10186865

Innocent people will see their ban lifted if they submit a case. If you are innocent your ban will be temporarily. Dont make nwe threads with this crap please

(I sound like a mod...perhaps I should apply for a position )

spellsword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The unjustly banned should be unbanned of course, but making all the bans temporary would be quite foolish, as it would defeat the purpose of the bans in the first place - people would just continue selling their dupped armbraces like nothing happened.

Toilet Monster

Toilet Monster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Army of Snowmen [Xmas]

guilty to duping = ban for life

if they get unbanned somehow remove all of their items tho...

Prof Of Black

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

Dupers, the real dupers, should be BANNED.

The people, who bought armbraces, without knowing about duping, should NOT be banned, a time limit ban at the most, or pay their profit back/destroy armbraces....

~Prof.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by boost291
i dont see what the problem is if they get a second chance.
its not like they downloaded third party software to dupe the items.
They found an error in the game, and used legitimate practice to get the items, its anets fault these people were banned
Thanks for playing but no, you're wrong

The EULA has a clear chapter on exploiting errors/bugs etc and it also lists what the consequences are.

spellsword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by boost291
i dont see what the problem is if they get a second chance.
its not like they downloaded third party software to dupe the items.
They found an error in the game, and used legitimate practice to get the items, its anets fault these people were banned
Wrong, there is a difference between a bug and an exploit, although the lines aren't always clear. This wasn't something that just happened, like the quest giving out several armbraces at once. People didn't suddenly find themselves with thousands of armbraces in their inventory, they had to go out of their way to do it.

edmiaston

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2007

envy

R/N

So yall finally found out it was chunky who did the duping the whole time ehh well just so u know yes chunky deserved to get banned forever but the many people he traded with who also traded with other people shouldnt be yes the people who sold stuff to him at ridiculasly high prices was a fault of thier own but the people who bought a few ambraces who didnt know they where duped u know im talkin bout them not chunk even though he is smart by figuering out the trick but dumb for crashing the market...

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

If someone is wrongly banned, they usually get their account back within a few days or weeks. Its not a huge hassle and Anet usually fix their mistakes!

What about those were banned for good reason? should we just ban then for a set amount of time, instead of perminantly?

What kind of discouragement is that for breaking the rules!!!

Stop complaining and be realistic. Anet is going to make mistakes and the odd wrong person is going to be suspected of breaking the rules and have their account blocked.

Just follow the rules and contact Anet and explain its a mistake and 9/10 times your account will be given back.

You cant expect Anet to always ban the correct people, because its a hell of alot of information they have to trail through to see how people are behaving ingame.

You wont fix/reduce the issue of people breaking the rules ingame by being nicey-nice to them. You have to come down on people hard and have zero tollerance and ban them perminantly otherwise they just come back and start again.

You cant just slap someone on the rist and say "right youve been bad, you cant play for 6 months, bad bad person!!". You have to completely remove their right to play all together.

If they ban the wrong person its unfortunate and they will resolve that issue. But just because mistakes happen is no reason to make the banning regulations more lax.

What you also have to consider is that they already made the banning system more lax by giving us a certain number of flags on your account. You dont get banned unless you break the rules a set number of times.

So for them to make mistakes you must be doing some really dodgey looking stuff, over and over again. But stop winging and just contact Anet and get your account returned.

Symeon

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Contact ArenaNet's support if you think you have been banned unfairly.

http://www.guildwars.com/support/

Closed.