Banned for "mule" account item swapping

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Is it against the EULA to transfer goods for others? (I am at work and cannot pull up any GW site but these forums on this computer) Lots of my guildies have "mule" accounts...should I stop taking their stuff and transfering it to their other account for them? I have seen posts here that "I got banned because my guildie traded me XXX linnen so I could make armor" . How about if a Guildie has plat to move from one account to another, will that get me banned as a "e-bayer" because I took $$ from that persons normal account and gave it back to them on their main account or vice-versa? With a-net on the "banned wagon" things like this are making me worried

immortius

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

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I don't think you need to worry. If they're banning people for buying gold they'll do that by tracking money flow from banned farming bots.

populationcontrol

populationcontrol

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

USSR

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no that is not a crime as far as im concerned. however i did have to have a stranger do it for me once (transfering 50k at 1k intervals) from my old account to a new one and gave him a nice chaos axe at the end for his service. its definately not a crime but doing is a risk for you in that you might be scamed.

Keithark

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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but what if the guildie bought the item or the gold...they siad earlier they banned accts that traded for duped items so would they ban accounts for "moving" e-bayed items? In my case it doesn't matter because I will not be doing this any more for anyone, but it is something for everyone to think about.....I don't think ppl in my guild would buy stuff but hey I also don't know for sure so I am not going to risk my 2200+ hrs work...just sucks that it has come to that, I mean we as players should not be held responsable for others doing "illegal" stuff like that. Same as if you traded a rare mini for a stack of those armbrace thingys, you should not be banned because they duped those items since you did not do anything wrong but make a great trade

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

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My officers and I do this often if we need to exchange stuff from one account to another.How else are you suppose to do it especially if that account doesn't need it?We mostly do it at the guild hall though try secluded location.

eightyfour-onesevenfive

eightyfour-onesevenfive

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keithark
I have seen posts here that "I got banned because my guildie traded me XXX linnen so I could make armor"
That is a huge pile of charr doodoo. If someone claims that is what happened, they're not telling the whole story (although they may not actually know the whole story themselves). Anet does not ban anyone for using basic game mechanisms, like the trading interface. Now, as already mentioned by others, the first question I would ask: where did those items or gold come from?

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

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Don't risk the items/gold, just install the program that lets you run 2 builds of Guild Wars and do it yourself
The program is virus/keylogger free.

enlightened

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The League Of Friends

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Call me an old cynic if you like but I think this is another one of those...

"can i obtain things by breaking the rules and transfer them to another account with the security if knowing that only the first account could ever get banned"

...questions!

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive
That is a huge pile of charr doodoo. If someone claims that is what happened, they're not telling the whole story (although they may not actually know the whole story themselves). Anet does not ban anyone for using basic game mechanisms, like the trading interface. Now, as already mentioned by others, the first question I would ask: where did those items or gold come from?
The quote in question was from a person in the guild [OhNo] which was caught up in the item duping thing - apparently one (or more) member duped items and gave them away. I seem to remember that most of the members got their accounts back but the ones that betrayed them did not along with a few that got enough that they should have known better. But then, there have been so many threads I'm not sure as who's account was restored and who was not quite telling us everything kinda ran together.

I'm too lazy to look it up but it wasn't just trading stuff for no gold. It's probably currently within the first three pages of Riverside if anyone cares to find it. At the least it is no more than a few days old. I know some got their accounts back and I think this quote is from one that did (and in fact didn't really know what happened until reading the forums - just knew that some other guild members were gone).

Witchblade

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Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by holababe
Don't risk the items/gold, just install the program that lets you run 2 builds of Guild Wars and do it yourself
The program is virus/keylogger free.
u dont need a program to do that
that's how u get KLs ^^

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

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Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
The quote in question was from a person in the guild [OhNo] which was caught up in the item duping thing - apparently one (or more) member duped items and gave them away. I seem to remember that most of the members got their accounts back but the ones that betrayed them did not along with a few that got enough that they should have known better. But then, there have been so many threads I'm not sure as who's account was restored and who was not quite telling us everything kinda ran together.

I'm too lazy to look it up but it wasn't just trading stuff for no gold. It's probably currently within the first three pages of Riverside if anyone cares to find it. At the least it is no more than a few days old. I know some got their accounts back and I think this quote is from one that did (and in fact didn't really know what happened until reading the forums - just knew that some other guild members were gone).

Here is the story posted by one of OhNo's members who got their account back. Apparently one of them accepted a large number of duped items and that person was then generous with his guildies causing a lot of them to be banned.

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by enlightened
Call me an old cynic if you like but I think this is another one of those...

"can i obtain things by breaking the rules and transfer them to another account with the security if knowing that only the first account could ever get banned"

...questions!
No, I actually helped a guildie swap 400k the other day....that is not all that much plat in my mind, but I also didn't ask where it came from so it got me worried. I usually never keep more than about 300k myself but my main question was if it was my "job" to verify that they didn't buy that gold.

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

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The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

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Join Date: Jul 2005

No you wont get banned.

I have stored hundreds of plat on my account for guildies.

I have transfered items / plat / ecto etc. from my account to a guildies / friends account to another account of mine.

I have helped guildies / friends transfer items / plat / ecto etc.

None of which have resulted in a ban.

I have never heard of a ban for any of the above either.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

I trade all the time with my wife, basically we just give each other stuff and no gold changes hands. This includes greens, golds and rare crafting materials.

Neither of us has ever gotten banned.