Online GOLD dealer SPAM - It's getting ridiculous!!!!!

Achilles Antony

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Hangar 18

I got one today, glanced at it thinking maybe it was important, then when I read it I realised it was garbage and just ignored it. I'm not too concerned... I was in Kamadan at the time, so somebody probably picked me because I was in a busy place. If I start getting them all the time, or when I'm nowhere near a major town or outpost, then I may start to worry.

lucifair

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Canada

[NErd]

N/Mo

the personal messages are, imo, of very little concern, because in my entire career of GW ive only recieved 1 such message...and by the magic of not responding that was that.

As well...the amount of GW gold spam is very small (maybe ill see one in the most active of districts of LA, AC, or GToB). And with the no tolerance policy of buying/selling gold, the number of willing buyers has gone down decreasing the market further.

However it still is required that something is done before GW goes the way of many other MMORPG's. As such, in regards to the idea of giving everyone a report user button i think its a step in the right direction...but definitely too many people would abuse it. An idea would be to put in more in-game GM's (A-net employee's and well respected members of the GW community) who could have this function available to them...because we all know how tedious it is to report someone.

The second idea that has been presented is the www.insertwebsitehere.com detector, which would work great...each www. u post in all/trade chat would be flagged...and then would be taken a look at and the appropriate action would follow.

However atm, im not too worried about gold selling...for unlike many mmorpg's, we can just walk out of a town to avoid all the spam

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

I have gotten 2-3 in the past month.. I insulted them all and only one answered...

Me: Go get a real job scum!
Him: We are honest and don't steal.. (wtf kind of answer is that...)

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

There should be a status option that makes it so you can only recieve PMs from people in your Guild and on your friends list.

Whirlwind

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

D/

Although that seems like a good option, and it may be for some people... if you are restricted to only getting PMs from guild and friends list you are also restricted from any type of legitimate PM such as someone just wanting to talk about your/their armor or asking a class related question, or just wanting to group up.

Granted a lot of people (like myself) are really anti social, but its still nice to know there is an outside world and interact with random people, sometimes ~

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Screenshot, report, ftw!

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

i'll bet that most of the people posting about getting WTB gold spam, have actualluy bought online gold, and that is why they are getting said spam.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by prism2525
Anet should ban anyone spamming anything with www.(something) in it in all chat.
They would proberly adapt to it sooner or later like on youtube. But i guess it cant couse harm. Ive had no PM's either TT. But i do see these gold sellers in ASC id 1 all the time .

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by flubber
i'll bet that most of the people posting about getting WTB gold spam, have actualluy bought online gold, and that is why they are getting said spam.
Assumptions are the lowest form of wit...no hang on...assuming makes an ass out of u and me...

But in this case, just out of you.

Thank you for the random generalizations...not.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

So they're there. Don't buy from them and move on with your life. They don't affect your game at all, quit expecting everyone to be your nanny.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Assumptions are the lowest form of wit...no hang on...assuming makes an ass out of u and me...

But in this case, just out of you.

Thank you for the random generalizations...not.

well kiddo after sitting in many towns/outposts for 8/10+ hours a day NOT ONCE has ANYONE EVER pm'ed me to buy online gold...

-is it because they don't like me...or is it because I NEVER bought online gold?

[EDIT]

I have more people spam me to join their guilds lol

liner

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/Mo

And how many of the people getting spammed bought 7 unidentified golds?

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by liner
And how many of the people getting spammed bought 7 unidentified golds?
Hammer--->Nail--->Head

was gonna say it but wanted to wait for response!
Ty ;-P

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

I was under the impression you only got PM's if you dealt with the bots/sellers.

I use to buy unid items off them, so I use to get one guy that PM'd me all the time with his next batch of unid's to sell. Very polite guy, not the best English but he always said hi, asked me how I was etc

These people won't PM you out of the blue, you will have to of had some contact with them beforehand.

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

I am starting to feel left out no one ever pm's me offers
and i'm in a lot of the busy areas.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa
JK
Seriously I have never had any of this yet never bought unid/gold or anything
so maybe and I said "Maybe"
they have traded with you at some point in your GW life to get your name.?
Dunno really just a thought.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo Ella
I am starting to feel left out no one ever pm's me offers
and i'm in a lot of the busy areas.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa
JK
Seriously I have never had any of this yet never bought unid/gold or anything
so maybe and I said "Maybe"
they have traded with you at some point in your GW life to get your name.?
Dunno really just a thought.
Thye don't do 'normal' trading though. The bot runner will log in to buy his newest batch of -50hp offhands, place them on the bots then leave.

The gold sellers only sell 'crap' unid's (yes, they test them before selling) they sell unid cheaply because they are worth next to nothing if they ID them.

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

I know not normal trading.
What I meant is I have never bought anything off these people or bots so therefore
they don't have my name down somewhere to "hit" on later for 'Wanna buy offline gold" or whatever it is.
IF thats how they target specific people to pm these message to
Sorry If I wasn't specific.


EDIT
Spell chucker isle 9 please

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by zzt711
1 up and 2 down, so your basically saying to put up with them. That's a joke, and the issue is that it detracts from the game. No way i'm going to put myself DND, which would also inhibit messages from other players/friends.

Also let me clarify that the messages are not constant, they are periodic, nevertheless annoying. This should not be happening, and i'm hoping that aNet has plans to combat this.

-Subo

SUBOTAI THE VALIANT IS THAT U???? ^_^ pm me in game some time
orion ^ ^

Shaq_gw

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Lowlands Strike Force

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
I was under the impression you only got PM's if you dealt with the bots/sellers.

I use to buy unid items off them, so I use to get one guy that PM'd me all the time with his next batch of unid's to sell. Very polite guy, not the best English but he always said hi, asked me how I was etc

These people won't PM you out of the blue, you will have to of had some contact with them beforehand.
I never deal with them and i DID get pm's

Also i am guessing they use a script to send the whispers

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Not always. Most of the ones I dealt with were Chinese people. They had a limited grasp of English.

These type of messages would be bots

"5k u buy?" etc

LONGA

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

N/

A universal language to deal with unID gold item seller

"Open trade with them and put on 1g" >>> I am not interest.

xReLx

xReLx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molock
I have gotten 2-3 in the past month.. I insulted them all and only one answered...

Me: Go get a real job scum!
Him: We are honest and don't steal.. (wtf kind of answer is that...)
Rofl..

I've only gotten a message once,and that was when I was in kamadan.

Not worried at all.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
I was under the impression you only got PM's if you dealt with the bots/sellers.

I use to buy unid items off them, so I use to get one guy that PM'd me all the time with his next batch of unid's to sell. Very polite guy, not the best English but he always said hi, asked me how I was etc

These people won't PM you out of the blue, you will have to of had some contact with them beforehand.
That explains why I never get any PM spam then...

I didn't even know that the unid item sellers were bots till I read it on here a few days ago.

sakura75

sakura75

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

Intensive Care Unit [ICU]

I had several gold selling PMs. I just politely reply "No thanx, unless it is for free ^^" and they left me alone.

Moreover, I don't think Anet can do anything about this.
Juristically spoken: Telling you are going to kill someone is not the same as actually killing some one. Presuming the act does not make you guilty. So saying you are selling GW Gold is not the same as selling it. I fear that Anet are not empowered to do anything about this.

Engel the Fallen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

People should have expected this. While everyone went nuts over armbraces, no doubt the gold traders were duping their own stuff. Namely lockpicks. Solo farming gets nerfed hard, so now not only is there a solid supply of gold for sale, it is now giving the sellers even more profit.

Anyone else find it funny that ANET in regards to duping can know where everything goes, but in terms of illegal gold selling, they cannot stop it so instead they keep doing broad sweeps that hurt normal players more than bots.

Fire Childe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

England

Angry Businessmens [aB]

E/

Well, I bought 7 unIDs once because I was close to Rank 1 wisdom. From a person who could speak good english and a name that wasnt gibberish.

I received a PM advertising cheap gold yesterday from a person who could not speak very good english and had a gibberish name (you probably know the name of the site in question since there only ever seems to be one mentioned). I mean the types of names you used to see streaming out of Riverside Province, Droknar's Forge and now Arborstone. Names like 'Stwv Ppwa'

I could have sworn the guy I bought the unIDs from was not a bot.

Either way, I'm on someone's list. I can but hope I was removed after my reply.

Shadow of Light

Shadow of Light

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
I was under the impression you only got PM's if you dealt with the bots/sellers.

I use to buy unid items off them, so I use to get one guy that PM'd me all the time with his next batch of unid's to sell. Very polite guy, not the best English but he always said hi, asked me how I was etc

These people won't PM you out of the blue, you will have to of had some contact with them beforehand.
All my PMs have come from out of the blue.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

Ummm Ya, agreeing with Shadow. I randomly got one that was just a Hi sir, we are selling gold blah blah blah. That was it, never heard from the guy again. First one and only one I have ever gotten.

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

i got 2 last time I logged on 3 days ago in kamadan, cept it was while I was outside in a zone.

Sqube

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Behind you...

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molock
I have gotten 2-3 in the past month.. I insulted them all and only one answered...

Me: Go get a real job scum!
Him: We are honest and don't steal.. (wtf kind of answer is that...)
The gold farmers themselves aren't, you know, scum. They're people gettin paid bupkes. More importantly, they probably are honest and they probably don't steal. If all you've got is the gold, but you don't give the gold, you're extra screwed, aren't you? Who buys from a gold seller that doesn't give the gold?

Blah blah blah, I don't condone gold sellers, blah blah blah.

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

Happened to me once, ironically while I was having a good HM Skyward Reach hydra run with my 55.

The potential for abuse is present with nearly ANY game-policing mechanic. You don't like the deal some guy offered you for their green item? Run around yelling he's a scammer, and not to be trusted (make sure to do it on every m***erf***in' GW forum in existence, too!), like the asshat you are. Whether the mechanic is official or on a player to player (to player to player, and so on and so forth...) basis, it can be abused, and it will be occasionally. Moral of the story? Quit whining about the potential for abuse, and start kicking (or reporting) some gold seller spammer asses.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Damn, just got my first EVER gold spam pm in GW. Never bought or saw the people selling the unidentified golds, either...Wow.