Weekend Event: Hard Mode in presearing

Funk ee Monk ee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Legendary Adventurers Guild [LAG]

I know many players would be absolutely nuts over the idea of having an opportunity to farm some serious xp towards LDoA. How about one weekend of Hard Mode in presearing? Of course would need to drop the requirement of level 20 to access hard mode, stop tome drops, and maybe even only add 5 levels (or 50% to current level).

With the max party size at 2 and limited skill sets (tome users should be permabanned IMO) it would sure add some excitement to the grind that is LDoA.

Absent this type of event, or the addition of a level 15 boss (hide him in the depths of the catacombs surrounded by many level 10 shaman even), the LDoA title is really nothing but a test of one's internet connection and willingness to waste energy leave a computer running 24/7 for a couple months. (runon sentences FTW!)

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

I would like to see it from my own viewpoint (With a lvl 14 perma-pre, and no tomes) but I also realize it is not fair for the people who got their LDoA title with many days of death leveling.

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper.nl
I would like to see it from my own viewpoint (With a lvl 14 perma-pre, and no tomes) but I also realize it is not fair for the people who got their LDoA title with many days of death leveling.
I'd love this even, and there's plenty of precedence for changes that leave one party feeling jipped anyway:

-Donating faction before you got double title points for doing so

-Making a character and dying, without knowing that down the road there'd be a title introduced that you could no longer get

-Only owning Nightfall or Factions but not both, and not being able to max either of the campaign's skill hunter titles

-Trying to advance the Treasure Hunter title after the removal of the Eternal Grove explorable zone chests

-Trying for Tyrian cartographer after they shut down the explorable arenas

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

/signed

but keep the lvl 20 req. Make it special for those who already have LDoA.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

/signed

I would suggest a 15 lvl req but make monsters lvl 24-30ish, in any case I highly doubt that this will ever happen as the presearing community is so closely knit compared to post and would be more outraged that previous instances of significant changes that affect titles in other ways (survivor, Tyrian Cartographer, etc...)

Barbarianof Blunder

Barbarianof Blunder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

Bane

W/

/SIGNED

I dont care what restrictions you place on us in Pre, but we have been neglected long enough. theres been an event in both noob islands but not in presearing, WHY? dont tell me because expireanced charcters cant get there, tell me why you wont give us in pre an event? even if it's going on somewhere else at the same time like the wintersday event, or Holloween.

Please let us know we're worth the bother, and have not been forgotten.

What Now

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Didn't they say when they made it they would have hard mode in all POST searing areas? Why go back on it, I don't think a basic tutorial should have a hard mode sorry and as stated why make it easy for yourself when other people got it the hard way. Might as well make new harder areas and quests to train at.

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

Shing Jea and Istan are basic tutorial areas with hard mode

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

Yea with all the exploits to fix and new game coming out i think Anet should take time to implement this

Sorry that was a bit blunt but i'm in rather a cynical mood and i love pre-searing and think it should stay as it is

What Now

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by vergerefosh
Shing Jea and Istan are basic tutorial areas with hard mode
And also part of the main story line which you can and must return to. Pre-searing is more of a introduction to guild wars and kept separate from it past the point so why make hard mode for the few people who can play it?

If they do make hard mode for it I say make it for level 20's, which wouldn't work because with 5-15 base armor you'd get raped and gg but people couldn't use it to get LDoA.

Davros Uitar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Fool Wolves

W/Mo

Hard mode in pre-searing takes the point away from LDoA. The whole point is that you HAVE to die to get it and you are not intended to have both it and survivor. It is also intended to be a difficult grind that would test the patience of a saint. That's the way it is, so //NOT SIGNED.

On the subject of a special event for PRE that has rewards and new quests and things then I think that is a great idea.

And for the person posting this gem :

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leighwyn
-Trying for Tyrian cartographer after they shut down the explorable arenas
This is not an impossibility - it's not even the sightest problem. My Level 20 never got to use the arenas either, and for a while I sulked about thinking it was impossible. Then with a little application and good cartographer help you realise that there is way more than 100% out there - even without the arenas. I am at 99.8% now, and I have identified another 2-3% still available in areas that I missed. Sure it takes patience, but which one of the max titles doesn't (well - yeah - someone could just buy the sweet tooth title can't they).

jesusrunz

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

You blow

Mo/

nah, let them death level.

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

@OP

While I agree with you on some level, think of all those who grinded for months and years to get LDOA. Would it be fair to them if me and you could have it easier? I say keep things the way they are. I may never get LDOA, but those who got it can really say they "worked" for it.

PS:Yes I consider wasting 30-40min pulling charr to the shrine grinding. The fact that you are afk most of the time doesn't make deathleveling "easy" or "fast".

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

why just 1 weekend?Make it all the time except no monsters above lvl 16.

And no tomes. Maybe a quest that you can get another 2 skills per profession.Thats about all the hard mode i want.

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

/not signed simply because

Lagg

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

/not signed, also simply out of spite

Much more fun weekend event themes possible.

Barbarianof Blunder

Barbarianof Blunder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

Bane

W/

/STILL signed

so being fair to those who got their titles with out help? What about when Anet changed how luxon points are earned??? or other weekend events that help players gain titles.

I still feel those who enjoy pre have been forgoten, at best a second thought. I ask YOU Anet when will WE be rememberd?

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davros Uitar
And for the person posting this gem :
Normally I let personal attacks on forums slide by but I had to respond to yours. With some reading comprehension skills, you'd see that the list I made in my post was on ways that ArenaNet has made changes to titles that cause disparity in achieving them between groups before and after the change. If you'd been mapping before the change, you could gain an extra 1-2% on your title through exploring the arenas. Now that you can't, that's an extra 1-2% that even you, in all your mapping awesomeness, would have to uncover before reaching 100%.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

i'd like to see this,even for a weekend,

as death leveling is comsuming in time, i jsut see it as a lucky title but free. if they made even like this it would seem like a better title.

no min lv.
charr lv. 17-20
it would make me want to make a perme pre ( i want to but ldoa is jsut too much afk-ness)

it may attract some flamers jsut after title that may congregate and jsut moan, ( there are always some in the cities of post, thats why pre is differant)

cmdratz

cmdratz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Fruor Amicitia Conamen Effectus [FACE]

R/Mo

Just make a quest called ~Bait the Charr Assault, accessible at level 15, after which you gain access to higher level foes at the flame temple, over the wall. This business of somehow 'defending' something by not playing, letting the foes kill you repeatedly, and losing the survivor title is contradictory, and unnecessary. Training the opposing army to make it better is treason, not defense.
Best Regards,
Chris. Dratz

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

increase the 4 Charr Bosses lvl from 10 to 14 ^^

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Simple give the game an humanous way of receiving the title, that is auquireble by old characters too, after they have beaten prophecies, by doing an elite quest... would be only fair, then change somethign on survivor title, that makes temporaly death counter resests after using an consumeable and this titles gets also fair ..

finish nothing more to say about, other then both titles would be finally fair for all then.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
Simple give the game an humanous way of receiving the title, that is auquireble by old characters too, after they have beaten prophecies, by doing an elite quest... would be only fair, then change somethign on survivor title, that makes temporaly death counter resests after using an consumeable and this titles gets also fair ..

finish nothing more to say about, other then both titles would be finally fair for all then.
Stop hijacking threads with this BS about your main character.

Good god.

On topic - THIS WILL NOT BE DONE BY ANET. SO STOP MAKING THREADS ABOUT IT

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

Harmode is only availlable to level 20 characters.

Bouldershoulder

Bouldershoulder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Can you imagine how brutal this would be to all of you what with the low armor and such?

I don't know about you, but I think this idea was extremely half-baked.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Stop hijacking threads with this BS about your main character.

Good god.

On topic - THIS WILL NOT BE DONE BY ANET. SO STOP MAKING THREADS ABOUT IT
Good god, shut simple up and leave me alone, u know a shit about me and my main char. And stop following my answers to write your dumb comments to them.
If something will be done or not is NOT your god damn choice, or are you working for anet ? Can you destinate, what will be done, and what not ? NO you cant, so shut up!!

This post wasnt against any rules and I've the right to post my opinion here as you do. Your annoying !!


PS: Wrote again only my opinion about the title story here, because on the other thread a mod said, here goes it further and closed the other thread

getalifebud

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/

/sign I would even like to see it permanent, it could encourage me and some friends to buy extra character slots to earn LDoA together.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

/signed

It make the title more meaningful (and remove the death leveling trick while there at it). Don't make it accessible until you pretty much clear the tutorial stage then give message about leaving or "new" special HM available to you.

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

/not signed and I'll go along the with the spiteful reasons. I don't have a pre char, so don't waste a weekend on something I can't enjoy without spending money or deleting an existing character.

Deadlyjunk

Deadlyjunk

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Fisherman's Haven

Endangered Species List [List]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdratz
Just make a quest called ~Bait the Charr Assault, accessible at level 15, after which you gain access to higher level foes at the flame temple, over the wall. This business of somehow 'defending' something by not playing, letting the foes kill you repeatedly, and losing the survivor title is contradictory, and unnecessary.
Not a bad point... but this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdratz
Training the opposing army to make it better is treason, not defense.
Best Regards,
Chris. Dratz
I freakin' love you man.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

/not signed

LDoA, what a mess. I don't know why they invented a title that can only be achieved by countless hours of exploiting a game flaw, but they did. At this point, making it "easier" (which is to say, sensible) would be rather cruel to those crazy, devoted few with too much time on their hands that have the title. What should have happened, from the outset, is the addition of more distant, more difficult, higher level content over the wall to allow for a legitimate, "real" experience climb to 20 for the truly devoted. At this late date, though, you can't really fix it without screwing the players that already have it.

Deadlyjunk

Deadlyjunk

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Fisherman's Haven

Endangered Species List [List]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
/not signed

LDoA, what a mess. I don't know why they invented a title that can only be achieved by countless hours of exploiting a game flaw, but they did. At this point, making it "easier" (which is to say, sensible) would be rather cruel to those crazy, devoted few with too much time on their hands that have the title. What should have happened, from the outset, is the addition of more distant, more difficult, higher level content over the wall to allow for a legitimate, "real" experience climb to 20 for the truly devoted. At this late date, though, you can't really fix it without screwing the players that already have it.
I've begun to realise that Guild Wars tries very hard to be democratic. Read: screwing players who invest effort into the game (see introduction of greens, of craftable dwarven axes etc.). So that's, in this game, not much of an excuse I'm afraid.

Jeremy Untouchable

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

in theory this would be cool

DarklingKiller

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA

Quit

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leighwyn
I'd love this even, and there's plenty of precedence for changes that leave one party feeling jipped anyway:

-Donating faction before you got double title points for doing so

-Making a character and dying, without knowing that down the road there'd be a title introduced that you could no longer get

-Only owning Nightfall or Factions but not both, and not being able to max either of the campaign's skill hunter titles

-Trying to advance the Treasure Hunter title after the removal of the Eternal Grove explorable zone chests

-Trying for Tyrian cartographer after they shut down the explorable arenas
They only removed the chests in the mission as they were being exploited


But /notsigned, there can be a much better weekend event like Double Reputation points with Kurz/Luxon/Norn/Dwarves/Sunspear/LB/Asura/Vanguard
rather than presear HM.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

/notsigned

We don't want people with Survivor AND LDoA do we?

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond
/notsigned

We don't want people with Survivor AND LDoA do we?
Why not?

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

I think some sprucing up of Pre-sear would be nice.

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

PLEAAASE DON'T listen to the laziasses here crying for ruining pre-searing. Get off your lazy schloggs if you want the title. ANET could do a lot for pre-searing removing this mistake of a title.

Saphrium

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Granite Citadel

Post Searing Ascalonian Merchants

N/Me

this is asking sky to rain money, totally not signed.