Mo/Rt 265HP Vengeful Was Khanhei Farmer (Based on RezzDogs build)

Saintly Izumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

Mo/

Hello all! This is for you guys out there who have been browsing the farming builds section and noticed Rezdoggs Rt/Mo 330hp Build but either don't have a Ritualist or have a Ritualist but haven't gone as far in the game with it as your monk. (The latter was the reason I experimented with my monk)

First of all I want to say that this is based on Rezdoggs build. Actually, this IS Rezdoggs build but I just wanted to help the people out there wondering if the same build can be done with a monk. Now if you're a monk and have brought your HP down to 330 and found that you die due to the lacking return of HP provided by VwK, bringing the health down to 265 with the help of Majors/Superiors should in fact give you some nice health return. Now I know some guys out there are gonna say that the Rt/Mo build is faster and Indeed it is, but the Mo/Rt variation isn't too bad. Now I'm going to post a couple of screen shots that should explain everything.

Note: As a monk, instead of 42 max damage on Reversal of damage it returns 70 due to the higher smiting prayers giving larger damage return to attackers.

Here are screenshots of the build in action, Drops to confirm the build and Information on skills and weapons. If you need any more info just ask here or actually, it would be better if you go to Rezdoggs thread due to the fact that this is virtually the SAME build. Just modified to suit the monks out there. RezDoggs thread has alot more info from various people and you may find your answer there. I've only tested in HM Fahranur, The First City so if you guys could test in the places where the Rt/Mo variation is viable in and confirm the build that would be sweet.

Attributes
Simiting 10+1+3
Protection 8+2
Divine 2+2 (Any left overs)
Restoration 12

Rune Set-Up
15AL
Smiting Scalp design of Superior Smiting Prayers
Chest of Major Divine Favor
Gloves of Major Protection Prayers
Pants of Superior Smiting
Sandals of Attunement

These should bring you down to 265 HP.

So now the Screenshots

DISREGARD THE ATTRIBUTES PLEASE! Older version of the attribute spread.


In action


On some Scale


Thanks for reading! Hope it helps.

deadlytiger

deadlytiger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

We know our ABC

W/

WoW this build is very very well set up. I Usually use my mo/d but this works very well. Do you know if the warrior VwK build can do this??

Saintly Izumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

Mo/

It probably can but It would be slow because no Retribution and Reversal of damage...although you can substitute both for the two ripostes.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

RoD does 42 dmg on my build with 8 Smiting. And your build will only do 8 damage from retribution, ur just gettin holy x2 damage on undead. So if you were to use it else were, you would only do 37 (29+8) damage compared to 47 (37+10). And your Vengeful Weapon only does 51 compared to 63. And RoD does same amount of damage as mine does, which is 42. RoD will do 84 damage against undead. this works, but its alot slower than my build. Only advantage is longer lasting Prot. Spirit. Possibly better just to use the ol' 600hp SoJ Monk with Spirit Bond.

Saintly Izumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

Mo/

So I tried increasing my smiting prayers and It seems to kill groups faster now due to the change in smiting prayers and the 70 damage offered by reversal of damage. Good stuff. Retribution, it seems, does the same amount of damage so nothing changed there. Also I did say that the Rt/Mo build is probably faster. I tested the speed of my Rit/Mo build on Normal mode jade brotherhood warriors outside market place and it seems the killing time is only 3-4 seconds slower than using the Rit/Mo build.

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

I tried this, and I think it's more effort then it's worth. I'm going to ele nuke farm the scale now xD

Saintly Izumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by «Ripskin
I tried this, and I think it's more effort then it's worth. I'm going to ele nuke farm the scale now xD Yeah it does require some spamming to kill the skale but really It can farm all the other places that the Rt/Mo version can so its versatile enough to handle the other places. I just wanted to make a monk version to help the others who dont have a rit. I don't thinks its more trouble than its worth though...

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Oh and also, I find it's easier to just go 55 mo/whatever you fancy with Shield and hands, more damage and what not. Youc an probably also hit the scale with that, in fact, It hink I'll go do that.

Saintly Izumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

Mo/

Yeah I've been using the 55HP Mo/D but i find it kills scales slower especially in the larger group that spawns near the shrine. I don't think the Mo/D does more damage time wise because the skale are knocked down with SoJ thus slowing down the killing speed. Also they scatter once they get down to a certain amount of health so they don't bunch back up unless you kill one of the skale still hitting you. with this build the recharge on VwK and shorter and the damage much greater due to the absence of knockdown to slow things down. I can honestly say i am able to take down half of those skale and kill them then then kill the other half faster than aggroing the whole group or portions of the group and trying to kill them with soj cause its going to be incredibly slow. So basically the Mo/D does more damage on the hit BUT kills MUCH SLOWER than the Mo/Rt. It may be "safer" but if you've been doing this run as much as I have you can handle it. I've been using the Mo/D build for quite a while but I can say from personal experience that it is indeed slower than the Mo/Rt or the Rt/Mo. Survivability isn't a problem if you keep on top of the spirit bond and keep it up when VwK is down or your health gets below 50 percent.

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Why not switch out the attunement for a vigor to boost your hp for retribution?

Anyhow, a nice build ^^ Im a huge fan of the 330hp rit, and this looks just as fun :]

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Hmmm, I think I've uncovered a gold mine :\

I'm gonna make a new thread about this..


First drop, of them all, lol

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

I tweaked a monk version of Mo/Rt. I was going to add it to my 330hp thread, but I figured I might as well make a seperate thread for people that won't look at my other build because they have no ritualist. Tweaked version uses 601hp, and will put out 47-48 damage with VwK and Retribution. It doesn't use Vengeful Weapon or RoD. But the higher health and Smiting will do the job faster than the build u got now... And no need to spam any skills.

[QUOTE=«Ripskin]Hmmm, I think I've uncovered a gold mine :\

I'm gonna make a new thread about this..
QUOTE]

Alot of people farm them Skale when farming The First City

Saintly Izumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

Mo/

Nice. I wanna see this new build sounds sweet.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

I just posted it... here is the link anyways


Mo/Rt 600hp Vengeful Spirit Bonder (Rt/Mo 330hp Alternative)

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

[QUOTE=ReZDoGG][QUOTE=«Ripskin]Hmmm, I think I've uncovered a gold mine :\

I'm gonna make a new thread about this..
Quote:

Alot of people farm them Skale when farming The First City Yeah I know that now :\
But oh well, I want to see some builds that only farm this. Like 5 minute runs, I'm convinced that I should farm here for awhile, lol.

I'm trying to figure out a way for my ele to survive those necros and eles, I'm thinking run them under the big ass hammer and killing them that way.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

might as well let this thread die and let everyone go to my thread for Mo/Rt. sorry bout that. heh.

Saintly Izumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

Mo/

I definitely think that this variation of Mo/Rt is as fun to use as the Rt/Mo. I don't appreciate it that you would just say that my thread should just die.

doinit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

I like this build been using something like it for awhile had a few things changed though this gets the job done better

Vexed

Vexed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReZDoGG
might as well let this thread die and let everyone go to my thread for Mo/Rt. sorry bout that. heh. Rez, your builds are great and all, but this build works just fine. Comments like that one are just lame.

Saintly Izumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Saints of Sin

Mo/

Thanks Vexed. I felt that the comment he made was rude.

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

I have to agree with them, kind of uncalled for. I didn't expect something like that coming from you :\

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vexed
Rez, your builds are great and all, but this build works just fine. Comments like that one are just lame. I didn't mean anything by that. The build works, but I tweaked a Mo/Rt version and posted it on another thread. I didn't say let the build die. heh. sorry bout that. but you should have messed around with the monk version a bit more before posting. I managed to get the damage output from VwK and Retribution to be the same as the damage output on the Rt/Mo. Rt/Mo does 47 damage, and this one 47-48... so it could probably still kill some enemies in one VwK usage. Versus undead it should do 29+36. Only different is your maintaining one extra enchant, and don't use Veng Weap and RoD.

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by «Ripskin
I have to agree with them, kind of uncalled for. I didn't expect something like that coming from you :\
I have to agree to.

Resdog has an ego problem it seems, this is not the first time I notice this.
He doesn't even like giving credits to people who give him ideas. Not that I really care about it, untill we find out that he claims that he tought up all by himself...

Quote: Originally Posted by Koning
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=101 If this is the first thread that focuses on mo/rt you should make improvements here and not in a new thread. This place only gets messed up if everyone makes new threads about little improvements. The topic starter can always edit his initial post and gives the 'better' build.

Ah well, resdog is of course is the king of the rit farmers so we should all forgive him.

(sarcasm for if anyone didn't notice it yet)

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

IF i was just sh*t on this build, I would be sh*tting on my own. I didn't mean to hurt anyones feelings. I know I put the in the wrong words... sorry for that. I just thought, why not go to the tweaked build thread instead of this one? thats why I said let the thread die... and move on to the updated one.

At first I was going to post it here or was goin to add it to my 330hp thread. But since his title would be diff than mine, i figured i would put it on a new thread. I actually kind of regret doin so. But oh well, too late now. I don't know why I even bothered, but the 600hp one actually does work well. faster than SoJ. and the 19 dmg you get from Retribution will finish off enemies after already using one VwK.

I don't know why you would say "Ego" problem. Why would anyone have an ego on a thread? It has nothing to do with me making the 330hp build... and it turning out alright. I mean it didn't take much thinking to come up with the 330hp build. It just came to me while i was farming with my 105hp. I just was wondering why not get alil extra damage to add up with VwK... then I thought of Retribution, then came Higher health, then Spirit Bond... and it all clicked in. But I wouldn't have an ego for that... I've seen things other people said which are worse, and no one gives a crap. But I say one thing, and it gets blown all outta perportion, and now im the bad guy. story of my life actually.

Holz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koning
I have to agree to.



Ah well, resdog is of course is the king of the rit farmers so we should all forgive him.

(sarcasm for if anyone didn't notice it yet)
Not really. The king of Rit farmers is Denzel, no discussion possible. He created the fastest UW solo build (in that time, however it's still pretty fast, 12-14 mins), using VwK for the first time.

Also drop the whining, he already apoligized.

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koning

sarcasm for if anyone didn't notice it yet That means that I didn't mean what i said in that last line.

Masuki Toko

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Mo/

Seems like a nice varient, I like to farm alot and I find that using the same build over and over get's annoying so this would be a nice change from time to time. Thanks.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holz
Not really. The king of Rit farmers is Denzel, no discussion possible. He created the fastest UW solo build I'm amazed how you didn't catch the sarcasm, even with Koning telling you he was sarcastic. Also I think you mean Dahnel not Denzel.

Holz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarion Silverhand
I'm amazed how you didn't catch the sarcasm, even with Koning telling you he was sarcastic. Also I think you mean Dahnel not Denzel. Your'e right, it was Dahnel. It has been quite a long time for me since I read his thread, about 1 year. Some names get messed up after a while.... And of course I noticed his sarcasm, nevertheless I wanted to point out a fact and give some extra credit to Dahnel (don't know where he has gone) .