Nerf is TOO common
natuxatu
There is a different between a nerf and a skill change. It's really a matter of opinion frankly... and I think that's the bottom line. I would say there are changes more than there are just nerfs.. besides there is a tone of skills so you have options to use others if you don't like how one has been changed.. it's not the end of the world... I don't like that some of the skills I used to use on my ritualist now give exhaustion.. so I simply took them out and played around with my build and found something else I liked... and now I'm fine.
Div
Overpowered builds are getting nerfed. Good builds are staying as they are, untouched. Just because they "nerf" a skill doesn't mean it's completely useless. Just look at HB and see how many people abuse SP sins still, or look at how strong price of failure is in hex builds.
Div
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So how do mesmers and monks deal with their 25 energy skills (monks especially)?
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Anyone who thinks nerfing soul reaping will disable the necro's ability to cast 25 energy skills is pretty much like that ele I described up there.
Evilsod
This thread is embaressing to PvEers.
lucifair
hey im glad sp sins are nerfed...and its not even nerfed that they are useless...but instead the recent skill balances makes it so they arent as effective at killing.
And no...there is nothing wrong with soul reaping...it works fine...so deal...personally i think the recent balances were some of the best (after they made the final tweaks) as they got rid of the ever hated rit spike yet made the party support/flag running rit still usable, and there is now some diversity in sin builds...i just miss my beautiful good old fashioned aegis T.T
And no...there is nothing wrong with soul reaping...it works fine...so deal...personally i think the recent balances were some of the best (after they made the final tweaks) as they got rid of the ever hated rit spike yet made the party support/flag running rit still usable, and there is now some diversity in sin builds...i just miss my beautiful good old fashioned aegis T.T
Chris Blackstar
I will say this again, nothing and I mean nothing in this game has been or ever will be overpowered!!!
It comes down to skill, orginazation, and good tactics, with, mind you, a lot of practice. Then once you learn those things, you can take any skill and make it seem overpowered on the grounds that you have mastered it.
My suggestion is to look at the skills being used and review other skills that will defeat them, or counter them, then devise a build and develop it with some good old fashion practice.
Or you could take the easy way out and bitch that the skill or build is overpowered because you SUCK and the other player is better then you.
It comes down to skill, orginazation, and good tactics, with, mind you, a lot of practice. Then once you learn those things, you can take any skill and make it seem overpowered on the grounds that you have mastered it.
My suggestion is to look at the skills being used and review other skills that will defeat them, or counter them, then devise a build and develop it with some good old fashion practice.
Or you could take the easy way out and bitch that the skill or build is overpowered because you SUCK and the other player is better then you.
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar
I will say this again, nothing and I mean nothing in this game has been or ever will be overpowered!!!
It comes down to skill, orginazation, and good tactics, with, mind you, a lot of practice. Then once you learn those things, you can take any skill and make it seem overpowered on the grounds that you have mastered it. My suggestion is to look at the skills being used and review other skills that will defeat them, or counter them, then devise a build and develop it with some good old fashion practice. Or you could take the easy way out and bitch that the skill or build is overpowered because you SUCK and the other player is better then you. |
Signet of Might
Original IWAY with stacking orders and IAS
Original rit spirits - you could have an infinite amount
Sand Shards
D/mos with contemplation of purity
Energizing finale/the original paragay build
Original spirit spam with ranger spirits
Those are just some of the more insanely imbalanced things that have existed. There are plenty of levels between this stuff, which was game-breaking, and good, balanced skills.
Patrick Smit
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Never learned anything on top a school before. Must get hot up there.
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In the end, you still you judge ANet with a judgment that really is near retardedness and not argumented, go to bed. The nerfs are good as they induce more skillful play instead of spam and forget skills. If you think WoW is better go and play that, discuss about WoW on WoW fora, and leave this forum. You, apparently, are only trolling here.
KTHXBAI as some say here.
Young Hero
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Originally Posted by Patrick Smit
its not about a stupid mistake here, you still must consider that not all people are native speakers. It must be at school, so what? People that can't bring arguments often rebuke with their opponents on grammatical mistakes, while that is of no importance.
In the end, you still you judge ANet with a judgment that really is near retardedness and not argumented, go to bed. The nerfs are good as they induce more skillful play instead of spam and forget skills. If you think WoW is better go and play that, discuss about WoW on WoW fora, and leave this forum. You, apparently, are only trolling here. KTHXBAI as some say here. |
It amazing that anyone who has been around since the good ole days still plays.My large friends list went gray long ago but I held on to hope only to be nerfed again and again. I lived and adapted with the destruction of many many many builds.
Adopt with the change, no way Jack-been there done that.
The nerfs have left me with a severe sour taste for the company as a whole.
I do still enjoying visiting these forums, reading about more nerfs. It never ends and everytime someone starts a thread such as this I will be there to comment.
My Judgement is far for tardness.Its based on being there playing for hours upon hours then getting kicked in the rocks over and over.
Nerfs-AoE , PB, SB, minion cap, Mob Scatter from tripple/cyclone axe, Necro racial nerf,Wammo armor , LOOT SCALING are you effin kidding me.
Div
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Really I'am angry that GW has destroyed itself by nerfing the game into a joke.In my eyes anyway, been a loyal fan for a long time, but not anymore.Love has turned to hate.
It amazing that anyone who has been around since the good ole days still plays.My large friends list went gray long ago but I held on to hope only to be nerfed again and again. I lived and adapted with the destruction of many many many builds. Adopt with the change, no way Jack-been there done that. The nerfs have left me with a severe sour taste for the company as a whole. I do still enjoying visiting these forums, reading about more nerfs. It never ends and everytime someone starts a thread such as this I will be there to comment. My Judgement is far for tardness.Its based on being there playing for hours upon hours then getting kicked in the rocks over and over. Nerfs-AoE , PB, SB, minion cap, Mob Scatter from tripple/cyclone axe, Necro racial nerf,Wammo armor , LOOT SCALING are you effin kidding me. |
lacasner
I think I can say this with confidence that it is not a wrong statement, but it seems to me you have a very different perspective on how this game needs to be played than other people. Is doing the same thing over and over for you actually fun?
natuxatu
Like I said.. i think people just over use the word nerf and that's the problem. Hardly any skill if any is useless even if it can no longer be used for a particular build.. it still would have a use somewhere and for pve you can use pretty much anything so..
Loviatar
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thats why sales have kept going up.........they ruined it for your type of hard core in a rut farmer
every one of those a hard core farmers bitchfest
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Really I'am angry that GW has destroyed itself by nerfing the game into a joke.In my eyes anyway
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My Judgement is far for tardness.Its based on being there playing for hours upon hours then getting kicked in the rocks over and over. Nerfs-AoE , PB, SB, minion cap, Mob Scatter from tripple/cyclone axe, Necro racial nerf,Wammo armor , LOOT SCALING are you effin kidding me. |
Young Hero
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So you would prefer a power creep over time? Ok, because that'll be fun to play when everyone has tormented weapons and spells that insta-kill monsters.
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Havent played in awile so not sure what your talking bout.
Who cares what weapons others are using?I never did.
I used tons of collector items until I farmed that rare skin for me!
Never did I spam the trade channel waisting time while I could be farming.Depended on white drops to pay for 15Ks, end game NF armor, runes, materials.
Farm, farm, farm thats what I like to do over and over, pushing a build to the breaking point only to come out on top with skill.What a rush it was.
Loviatar
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this is not farm wars but the nintendo game HARVEST MOON sounds just your speed and you can meet a girl in it even
Xx_Sorin_xX
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Originally Posted by Young Hero
Never! Anerf are the Kings of ruining something good/fun/enjoyable.
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someone's imba build got nerfed..
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Originally Posted by Young Hero
Farm, farm, farm thats what I like to do over and over, pushing a build to the breaking point only to come out on top with skill.What a rush it was.
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Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Young Hero
Farm, farm, farm thats what I like to do over and over, pushing a build to the breaking point only to come out on top with skill.What a rush it was.
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If for some reason you like Sisyphean games, I guess that's your thing, but I'm pretty sure most people around here aren't that into doing the same thing thousands of times. You might try http://www.progressquest.com/
Curse You
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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar
I will say this again, nothing and I mean nothing in this game has been or ever will be overpowered!!!
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Farm, farm, farm thats what I like to do over and over, pushing a build to the breaking point only to come out on top with skill.What a rush it was.
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Evilsod
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SP sin. Press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. How is there any skill in that?
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lacasner
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GG.
haggus71
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Please, stay with WoW, quit posting, and let this thread necro. You just sound like others who post to justify their reasons for leaving the game. You "haven't played the game in a while", so you have no real frame of reference other than trolling the forums, which is sad.
On topic, since this game is a static MMO, they adjust skills based on use/abuse and what they hear from players. Since the majority are PVE and NOT farmers, they adjust them to the casual player. Unfortunately for some(or fortunately, depending), the majority are c-space button-mashers, which is why SF gets such love. A good game caters to the majority, which is what Anet has done. The rest of us can swing with those changes(Christ, with so many skills you should find SOMETHING that works), or leave the game and find something else.
When/if I stop playing the game, the last thing I'll do is troll GW forums looking for a chance to boost my self-esteem.
Redfeather1975
Skill updates are getting better with each one, in my opinion.
It looks like changes are more often reversed and new skill functionalities are introduced to try and squash abuse while keeping the particular skill useful enough to use.
I think Izzy and the balancers are getting a little better at it each time.
It looks like changes are more often reversed and new skill functionalities are introduced to try and squash abuse while keeping the particular skill useful enough to use.
I think Izzy and the balancers are getting a little better at it each time.