Petition: Helms for our Paras! - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

19 Aug 2007 at 15:36 - 1

Who else agrees that a new helmet or two would not look bad on our Paragons? I'm thinking ancient-greek (Corinthian) styled, as per their armour?

Don't get me wrong, I see why they have the whole Ele-thing going about their wee little heads and all, but I think that (for at least the Fissure of Woe and one or two additional armours) some combat headgear should be included. Examples below.

Your thoughts? /Signed, /Not signed?

(Pics courtesy of Manning Imperial)

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

19 Aug 2007 at 15:38 - 2

Should be in sardelac but........

/SIGNED! Paragons have little gems which isnt as cool as the sunspear helms. Would be a nice addition

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

19 Aug 2007 at 15:40 - 3

It would fit the history..

But no, I really really really dont like it

~Prof.

Hollow Gein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Menos Espadas

N/

19 Aug 2007 at 16:01 - 4

/signed

Should have been implemented in the 1st place as opposed to a elemental floating jem rip-off.

Shadow Kurd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Netherlands

Scouts of Tyria

P/

19 Aug 2007 at 16:03 - 5

/signed
hellya

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

19 Aug 2007 at 16:10 - 6

So long as we can get a pair of trousers too them i'm all for it.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

19 Aug 2007 at 16:16 - 7

heh..Ele's should also get better headgear.. something more visible because at the moment if we want 15k headpiece we have to get vabian (which I have and really.. they could make something better).

Anyway, /signed for the paragon helms.. it just makes sense for them to have a helmet.

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

19 Aug 2007 at 16:42 - 8

/signed. Hate that stupid little gem on my paragon's forehead.

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

19 Aug 2007 at 16:51 - 9

/signed

I'd love to see a little more variation in paragon headgear. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think paragons have any prestige headgear at all, right? Maybe they could add some flashy helms in as prestige stuff, like the 15k glad's helm that was added in an update a while back.

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

19 Aug 2007 at 16:52 - 10

Would be interesting, along with some trousers for the male Paras at least

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

19 Aug 2007 at 17:28 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prof Of Black

It would fit the history..

But no, I really really really dont like it

~Prof.

Then buy the other floating gem helm. Or hit the hide button on your own.

Frankly, this has been suggested multiple times. Get on it already a.net.
/signed

Simath

haha you're dumb

Join Date: Jul 2005

Moscow

19 Aug 2007 at 18:05 - 12

/notsigned

Imo a helm wouldn't fit very well with the Paragon's current availible armors. A good portion of the arms and legs are visible and I just can't see a covered head fitting in with that concept. Maybe a helm would look good with future armor sets. We'll have to wait and see.

Seeing how long it took them to get a 15k glad's helm I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Johnny Madhouse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

SKOB

P/

19 Aug 2007 at 18:07 - 13

The battle kilts rule, and a centurion's helm would be incredibly awesome. Heck, it's not like it doesn't already fit with the class, the Centurion's Insignia has a little helmet icon on it.

The floating gem seems a bit lazy.

Kind of related, I'm hoping that GWEN has some more para sets that don't show off the midriff on the males. I mean, it's not like I'm uncomfortable with my sexuality or anything, but I'm a bit tired of fighting while dressed like a Chippendale's dancer.

You know what would be totally rad, ANet? Full Legionaire style, helmets and all.

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

19 Aug 2007 at 18:43 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simath

/notsigned

Imo a helm wouldn't fit very well with the Paragon's current availible armors. A good portion of the arms and legs are visible and I just can't see a covered head fitting in with that concept. Maybe a helm would look good with future armor sets. We'll have to wait and see.

Seeing how long it took them to get a 15k glad's helm I wouldn't get my hopes up.

The Paragon armours are in-tune with certain ancient civilization armours, where only vital parts of the body were armoured (the armours were actually far more intricate than the medieval style "plate everything you see" armours). Find some pictures of ancient Greek (and specifically Spartan) units and note how their armours are similar to what we have now for the Paragon in GW, only with a helmet covering the entire head. Like so:

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

19 Aug 2007 at 20:07 - 15

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

19 Aug 2007 at 20:11 - 16

Wonderful idea....Paragons right now are just eles with different armor and skills...and a little more beefcake on the males. Give them helmets like they're supposed to have. I was actually surprised to see them WITHOUT centurion style helmets when I first saw them.

haggus71

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

FotS

19 Aug 2007 at 20:14 - 17

nice pics. Athena was the 'paragon' of the Greek warrior. If you read the Illiad, she even kicked Aries' ass.

So /signed on a helm. You can always not show it or still get the third eye on your forehead.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

19 Aug 2007 at 20:19 - 18

Wow Odinius....perfect!!!!!

/signed.

I WANT MORE ARMORS and some of them to have helmets!

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

19 Aug 2007 at 20:27 - 19

/agree

I always wondered why they had those Ele style jewels on their head instead of helmets.

Saleh No.1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wales

E/Me

19 Aug 2007 at 20:27 - 20

/signed

The Sunspear recruits in Chahbek village have helms and even Kormir has something so why shouldn't we have some.

Kain666

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Bran - Romania

TIGG

Mo/A

19 Aug 2007 at 20:28 - 21

/SIGNED

That would fit them awesome!

Lauryn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

R/

19 Aug 2007 at 21:59 - 22

/signed

definitely like those helms

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

19 Aug 2007 at 22:32 - 23

Paragons do not have helms.

They have those weird stones.

It would be like giving healms to Elementalists, Necromancers or Monks.

Saleh No.1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wales

E/Me

19 Aug 2007 at 22:44 - 24

Go tell the Sunspear recruits that then.

Ember010

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/

19 Aug 2007 at 22:47 - 25

/signed.

Loving the greek theme, suits the spears. =]

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

19 Aug 2007 at 22:53 - 26

What I mean is that now it's too late to add different type of headgear for them.

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

19 Aug 2007 at 23:40 - 27

Funny, I actually thought the same thing when I saw paragons. I was expecting helms just like that; imagine my surprise when they showed up with the same weird floating forehead jewel that elementalists have.

/signed because they're more warriorlike than magical, and it fits their armor scheme.

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

20 Aug 2007 at 01:04 - 28

100% /signed off course!!! (even though I don't have a paragon)

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

20 Aug 2007 at 01:34 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Paragons do not have helms.

They have those weird stones.

It would be like giving healms to Elementalists, Necromancers or Monks.

Well the big difference is that Paragons use a martial weapon and wear armor (plates).

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

20 Aug 2007 at 01:42 - 30

/signed I suppose

Though I'd rather male paras get some pants... please!!!!!!!!

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

20 Aug 2007 at 03:24 - 31

Agreed. It fits the rest of the armour style, the NPCs get it, Paragons are at heart martial rather than spellcasters, and it wouldn't be the first time they've introduced new headgear.

Shakkara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

20 Aug 2007 at 07:36 - 32

/signed! Stupid head gems shouldnt be platemail!

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

20 Aug 2007 at 07:58 - 33

/signed the head gems are rubbish, you cant even see them with some hairstyle. Helm would be much better.

freakdaddy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ohio, USA

Tales of Heroes[myth]

A/Me

20 Aug 2007 at 08:07 - 34

/signed
i can't bring myself to even play my paragon because the armor sucks nice concept of a char. but armors suck so i use as a mule...lol

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

20 Aug 2007 at 08:15 - 35

You 300 nerds, the Corinthian helmet is overrated and just looks "badass". It limited vision and hearing and it doesn't fit in the "North African" Theme anyway - not to forget that no skirmisher would wear such a thing at all.

Next thing we lack is thrustable spears and slow-motion PvP.

Warmarshal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

White Dragons Of The Sky

P/W

20 Aug 2007 at 08:47 - 36

/Signed they'd look much more ferocious running into battle with a helm. At the mo my paragon has full black ancient and then a puny gem on his head which sucks.

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

20 Aug 2007 at 08:55 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surena

It limited vision and hearing and it doesn't fit in the "North African" Theme anyway

And stupid floating rocks is more appropriate?

/signed, floating rocks is a bad Elementalist copy and helmets fit in much better.

Mister O

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

20 Aug 2007 at 10:01 - 38

I feel like to use that helm to sweep my floor

Taurus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mexico

Go for the eyes [jizz]

W/Mo

20 Aug 2007 at 10:08 - 39

/signed

While you're at it how about a legging armor that doesnt look like a mini-skirt ?

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

20 Aug 2007 at 11:08 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surena

You 300 nerds, the Corinthian helmet is overrated and just looks "badass". It limited vision and hearing and it doesn't fit in the "North African" Theme anyway - not to forget that no skirmisher would wear such a thing at all.

Next thing we lack is thrustable spears and slow-motion PvP.

On the contrary, it was probably one of the most effective helm designs in the history of mankind. The only drawback was limited hearing, which was fixed in later Spartan-Corinth designs by having the helmet design slope up around the ears (example). The design was such that it would deflect a direct blow from a heavy weapon like an axe or a sword in the best of cases. Vision was excellent all-round and long, thick cheek guards made sure no light weapons would pierce the area around your throat where your vital organs were located (neck arteries and such). Remember that the ancient Greek phalangites and Hoplites fought shoulder-to-shoulder (one thing 300 actually did portray rather realistically) so the only things portruding from the massive shield wall would be hundreds of heavily armed heads resting in these Corinthian helmets and heavily armoured shin-guards portruding from underneath the shield wall. The sight of these soldiers in battle was so fearsome that later Italian legionairries wore an emblem of the famous Corinthian helmet on their own helms into battle, to instill some of that fear onto their adversaries (example1, example2).

Another massive advantage of these helmets was that you could actually push it back so the rear bit of it would rest on your shoulders so you wouldn't have to take it off all the time, you could just "hinge" it back like medieval-era helmet visors.