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and my neighbor the cop would say definitely HUA from start to finish
ANet: Guild Wars reaches 4 Million sales
Loviatar
and my neighbor the cop would say definitely HUA from start to finish
VanDamselx
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Guild Wars may or may not have more gold sellers, but it's near undeniable that Guild Wars has a higher concentration of Gold Sellers.
Example, using somewhat random numbers. Let's say that Guild Wars has...1,000 bot acounts, and WoW has 10,000 bot accounts. Assuming Guild Wars has an active playerbase of...maybe 100,000 (and that's being generous), that's 1% bots, whereas in WoW, with its 9,000,000 player base, that's 0.11% bots. Significantly different. |
Oh, and congrats A-Net
LifeInfusion
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Guild Wars may or may not have more gold sellers, but it's near undeniable that Guild Wars has a higher concentration of Gold Sellers.
Example, using somewhat random numbers. Let's say that Guild Wars has...1,000 bot acounts, and WoW has 10,000 bot accounts. Assuming Guild Wars has an active playerbase of...maybe 100,000 (and that's being generous), that's 1% bots, whereas in WoW, with its 9,000,000 player base, that's 0.11% bots. Significantly different. |
chowmein69
wooooo Grats aNeT on 4 milion games sold!!!! we mite get 5 mil .. lol
//RogueNine
Grats Anet! A well desirved milestone.
Oh and as a slight derialment, but does anyone else here think zinger and bryant again need to take up permanent residence in the WoW forums? I mean im getting tired of seeing this WoW preachiness bs all over the place. Im here because I play GW and care about whats going on in GW, not WoW.
Oh and as a slight derialment, but does anyone else here think zinger and bryant again need to take up permanent residence in the WoW forums? I mean im getting tired of seeing this WoW preachiness bs all over the place. Im here because I play GW and care about whats going on in GW, not WoW.
Kashrlyyk
http://eu.guildwars.com/press/article/four_million/
You know Mr. Strain, less marketing BS and more effort to bring the BMP to the "exceptionally dedicated" fans!
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Brighton, England, August 21st, 2007— The Guild Wars® franchise of online role-playing games has broken the four million units sold mark in just over two years. Published by NCsoft® and developed by ArenaNet®, the Guild Wars series (consisting of Guild Wars, Guild Wars Factions™, and Guild Wars Nightfall™) has set the standard for online co-operative and competitive play with award-winning content and a subscription-free business model. Since the first campaign launched in 2005, Guild Wars has developed legions of loyal fans who are hotly anticipating the August 31st release of the game’s first true expansion, Guild Wars: Eye of the North™. “The Guild Wars phenomenon has never lost momentum since its launch in 2005. Players continue to join and stay loyal to the franchise, thanks to a unique business model that revolutionised online roleplay gaming,” said Geoff Heath, CEO, NCsoft Europe. “ArenaNet’s hard work and dedication has helped to make NCsoft the leading online gaming publisher in the world. We are all excited about the future of Guild Wars, with the expansion ready to be released and Guild Wars® 2 on the horizon.” “The Guild Wars brand has been extremely popular with GAME customers; since the first release in 2005 the titles have gone from strength to strength. No doubt the originality of the proposition has been key to its ongoing success,” commented Lisa Morgan, Chief Executive, GAME Group Plc. “With the forthcoming new release of Guild Wars: Eye of the North, I am certain the brand will reach new heights.” “ArenaNet is delighted by the continued success Guild Wars has enjoyed across Europe and around the world. Our European players are exceptionally dedicated to the game, and they are at the heart of this exciting milestone,” said Jeff Strain, co-founder, ArenaNet. “The response to the Guild Wars World Championships held at the Leipzig Games Convention last year was nothing short of spectacular, and we look forward to generating even more excitement within our community this year with the launch of Guild Wars: Eye of the North.” ... |
Engel the Fallen
And how many will be active for the debut of Gwen? 100k?
And how many banned accounts are there now total?
And how many banned accounts are there now total?
Engel the Fallen
And how many will be active for the debut of Gwen? 100k?
And how many banned accounts are there now total?
And how many banned accounts are there now total?
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lennymon
I for one bought 8 of those units (and regularly play on 6 having given 2 as unopened gifts), how about you all? How many bots were banned last month? lessee, lets say for the sake of a *non-official-made-up-number* 6000 bots banned last month. Now then, 6000 accounts is 6-18k units. Apply that math to whatever the actual figure is to get the range of units banned last (x) period. ;P
HardWonFame
4 million units sold is an impressive number, and for a game of this type a better figure then active players. Guild wars after all is a game that you dont have to be married to, so many players like myself come and go, making an 'active player count' utterly useless and laughable.
Cant stop now, need to hit 5 million, then maybe 6
Cant stop now, need to hit 5 million, then maybe 6
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Guild Wars may or may not have more gold sellers, but it's near undeniable that Guild Wars has a higher concentration of Gold Sellers.
Example, using somewhat random numbers. Let's say that Guild Wars has...1,000 bot acounts, and WoW has 10,000 bot accounts. Assuming Guild Wars has an active playerbase of...maybe 100,000 (and that's being generous), that's 1% bots, whereas in WoW, with its 9,000,000 player base, that's 0.11% bots. Significantly different. |
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can I please see these stats you speak of? If not, quit making WoW glorifying bullshit. Blizzard, when it says it has 9,000,000 members, is saying thats how many people have ever subscribed since 2004 when it was released. If you and BryantAgain want to promote the grind fest known as WoW, at least get your facts straight, or go talk about it in a forum where people actually care what you say regarding it.
Significantly diffrent.
GG.
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Redfeather1975
WoW has more gold farmers. 
Anyone is crazy if you think that out of 9 million players that only .11% are gold farmers. Chinese gold farmers flock to WoW like bees to honey.
No offense to Chinese players who aren't gold farmers!
Blizzard has banned up to 30,000 farming accounts in one month in the past.
It's so much easier to make money in GW than in WoW, and GW doesn't have as many servers as WoW. In order for gold sellers to remain competitive they have to rely and a huge number of bots on each server. Also players of subscription based games are more likely to buy gold because of the long term time and money investments involved in their characters.
Anyone is crazy if you think that out of 9 million players that only .11% are gold farmers. Chinese gold farmers flock to WoW like bees to honey.
No offense to Chinese players who aren't gold farmers!
Blizzard has banned up to 30,000 farming accounts in one month in the past.
It's so much easier to make money in GW than in WoW, and GW doesn't have as many servers as WoW. In order for gold sellers to remain competitive they have to rely and a huge number of bots on each server. Also players of subscription based games are more likely to buy gold because of the long term time and money investments involved in their characters.
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Ok, 4 million people created accounts. How many of those accounts are used by bots? How many of those accounts are actually active?
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Zinger314
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can I please see these stats you speak of? If not, quit making WoW glorifying bullshit. Blizzard, when it says it has 9,000,000 members, is saying thats how many people have ever subscribed since 2004 when it was released. If you and BryantAgain want to promote the grind fest known as WoW, at least get your facts straight, or go talk about it in a forum where people actually care what you say regarding it.
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Originally Posted by Press Release
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
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Quite a significant difference, indeed.
HardWonFame
The WoW data uses the game's internal census protocol. The number 9,000,000 is counting only the players who have active accounts that have been used in the last 30 days or less.
*edit* Zinger's link has the info.
*edit* Zinger's link has the info.
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World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules. |
Blizzard is telling two tales.
O, and in case my point did not go across.
Go post in a forum where people care zinger.
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O RLY?
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Go post in a forum where people care zinger.
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Im here because I play GW and care about whats going on in GW, not WoW
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B E A S T
That, I will admit, was of my own ignorance. I did not clearly read the full thing properly.
But, have a look at this.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...s-Magic-Number
3.75 million in China
and you say WoW has less bots/gold farmers then GW...
You make two, want a cookie?
No. It is too funny to argue with people who think WoW is fun.
But, have a look at this.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...s-Magic-Number
3.75 million in China
and you say WoW has less bots/gold farmers then GW...
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That, I will admit, was of my own ignorance. I did not clearly read the full thing properly.
But, have a look at this. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...s-Magic-Number 3.75 million in China and you say WoW has less bots then GW... |
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No. It is too funny to argue with people who think WoW is fun.
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B E A S T
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...It does. Gold farmers ≠ bots.
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Lol, I edited my post like 30 seconds before this one.
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Now how many of those players in China are gold farmers?
Redfeather1975
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Good call.
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They don't talk much though.
Bryant Again
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2! I know them both. They are quite nice fellows.
They don't talk much though. |
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Reported him in a heartbeat.
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Only 500000 more to go. It is also funny to see thousands of floating bots advertising gold selling, mainly in alliance cities.
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doh : \ I actually had an experience where someone pm'd me "hi are you gold farmeing?" and I replied "um, no..." then I got sent back a bunch of symbols. Pretty interesting. Reported him in a heartbeat.
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I had this happen in Everquest 2.
It turns out it was a GM and they thought I was botting.
Bryant Again
Yea in WoW, I had SS's somewhere, but I think I put em on an archived CD. Damn.
Redfeather1975
It's easier to get mistaken for botting in EQ2.
You don't need to face enemies to land spells.
I'd often park myself in a large clearing of non-aggro mobs and use a macro to pull. Macro's are allowed in EQ2, but they have a character limit.
I'm surprised I wasn't mistaken for a bot more often considering how often I played alone like that.
lol, now I'm having nostalgic memories.
In PVP, I used to play an inquisitor. They were very hard to kill, but did piddly damage. In a fight if someone hit me, I'd actually turn around to look at them, turn back to face what I was fighting and cast spells on the person while my back was facing them. It was hilarious and so obnoxious of me.
You don't need to face enemies to land spells.
I'd often park myself in a large clearing of non-aggro mobs and use a macro to pull. Macro's are allowed in EQ2, but they have a character limit.
I'm surprised I wasn't mistaken for a bot more often considering how often I played alone like that.
lol, now I'm having nostalgic memories.
In PVP, I used to play an inquisitor. They were very hard to kill, but did piddly damage. In a fight if someone hit me, I'd actually turn around to look at them, turn back to face what I was fighting and cast spells on the person while my back was facing them. It was hilarious and so obnoxious of me.
Bryant Again
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It's easier to get mistaken for botting in EQ2.
You don't need to face enemies to land spells. I'd often park myself in a large clearing of non-aggro mobs and use a macro to pull. Macro's are allowed in EQ2, but they have a character limit. I'm surprised I wasn't mistaken for a bot more often considering how often I played alone like that. |
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So 4 million is awesome, yeah?!
Redfeather1975
I'm going so off-topic, but here is some macros I made for EQ2.
http://www.youtube.com/v/jv_I2zZ-wPc
I had tons of them. lol
The top hotkey bar is all my macros!
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/3...07689188zn.gif
Oh yeah. Woot, 4 million. gj anet.
http://www.youtube.com/v/jv_I2zZ-wPc
I had tons of them. lol
The top hotkey bar is all my macros!
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/3...07689188zn.gif
Oh yeah. Woot, 4 million. gj anet.
Njaiguni Blaze
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Guild Wars may or may not have more gold sellers, but it's near undeniable that Guild Wars has a higher concentration of Gold Sellers.
Example, using somewhat random numbers. Let's say that Guild Wars has...1,000 bot acounts, and WoW has 10,000 bot accounts. Assuming Guild Wars has an active playerbase of...maybe 100,000 (and that's being generous), that's 1% bots, whereas in WoW, with its 9,000,000 player base, that's 0.11% bots. Significantly different. |
Anyways, gz Anet, and now gimme GW:EN
Redfeather1975
I found this, but I have no idea how Kotaku came up with those numbers for Guild Wars.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/list-it/top-10-mmos-269160.php
EQ2 isn't even on the list.
I always thought the active population was in the 100,000s, but I guess it's not even 500,000.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/list-it/top-10-mmos-269160.php
EQ2 isn't even on the list.
I always thought the active population was in the 100,000s, but I guess it's not even 500,000.
Sasuke The Betrayer
Zinger... to add onto Njaiguni... where in the hell do you have these numbers? You steal them from ANET or something to rant more in GWG? And honestly... I want to know why you hang around GWG so much to mock guild wars in EVERY thread that has WoW at least somewhat mentioned in it, or some GW conspiracy... Geez, I've seen you on Guild Wars spamming something like "give me indisputable proof that WoW > Gw and you get 100k".
Anyways... grats arenanet for 4 million. Can't wait till Gwen.
Anyways... grats arenanet for 4 million. Can't wait till Gwen.
Raganark
Congratulations anet may you sell millions more so all subscription fees go away
lol
lol
arcanemacabre
So, let's all guess what month they will announce the big 5.0...
I'm gonna say December.
I'm gonna say December.
some guy
how many quit? how many are bots?
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Zinger... to add onto Njaiguni... where in the hell do you have these numbers? You steal them from ANET or something to rant more in GWG? And honestly... I want to know why you hang around GWG so much to mock guild wars in EVERY thread that has WoW at least somewhat mentioned in it, or some GW conspiracy... Geez, I've seen you on Guild Wars spamming something like "give me indisputable proof that WoW > Gw and you get 100k".
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arcanemacabre
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Brain predicts around...Feb, for some reason. How long did it take for them to go from 3.5-4?
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Only difference between the Guild Wars and WoW figures is that ANet said how many people have bought they're game. Blizzard is stating how many subscribers they've got, meaning how many people are playing the game.
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EDIT: In before Zingers and Brayant's Flame
EDIT2: I don't know why people get so blissful about WoW's population because largely its irreverent since its based upon servers. If you play on a decent populated server, why care about the others since you won't ever play with them?