prophices care seem to lvl alot slower to me then they do in factions and nightfall

Lilith Moonraven

Lilith Moonraven

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Moonlotus temple

Moonlotus Soceity

Is it me or has anyone else noticed this.I'd really like views on why there seems to be leveling differences in the 3 chapters

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Factions was intended to have faster leveling and more lv. 20 content. Players complained that it was too fast, so they lessened the curve in Nightfall.

countesscorpula

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Gwen Is [EVIL]

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Yes, Prophecies characters level slower. This is due to the lower xp rewards for quests and missions. The reason* may very well be that Proph is the first game, and so they set up a slower development curve to gradually introduce players to the game and how it works.

Factions is mighty fast by comparison. Several of the quests are worth over 1000xp, compared with the wopping 500xp for most of Proph quests. Some people found the character growth in Factions to be something near approaching the speed of light... I'd be one of those people, and they slowed things down a touch in NF. NF is still much faster than Prophecies, especially with things like bounties, but not quite as fast as Factions. I think NF hit the sweet spot for char development speed... just my opinion.


* Pure speculation, based in no part on any official info from A-Net.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

factions was moreso for people migrating from prophecies who already beat the game. Ergo there was level 20 content to jump right into, that was also implemented in Nightfall just differently.

Although I prefer to run chars through factions (except for minister chos crap estate) so I can level em quickly and get going.

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

You're all wrong. It's because Prophecies is legit and Factions and NF are both uber-hax0r.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

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see i liked prophicies because in fac and NF you end up on a big island with lvl 20 enemies low level armor and not many skills

in proph you get tons of skills to try for free and lots of time to craft armor for the enemies you are fighting (take out the jungle that is useless)

Thunder79

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki
factions was moreso for people migrating from prophecies who already beat the game. Ergo there was level 20 content to jump right into, that was also implemented in Nightfall just differently.
Nah...people migrating from prophecies could just take their characters straight there with no need to level at all...

People complained about the slow leveling in prophecies...they over-compensated with Factions...people complained it was too fast...so they slowed it down for Nightfall...

I like Nightfall leveling the most....if I just want a level 20 I take my characters to factions.

Quote:
(take out the jungle that is useless)
No...it's a significant chunk of the storyline in Prophecies...if anything they should eliminate the ability to get run straight to Sanctum Cay and make people at least run through the prophecies campaign. I'm sure there's a significant chunk of the community who won't even know who the Shining Blade are when Livia is introduced in GW:EN (the Shining Blade Necromancer Hero)

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

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yea what everyone else said, the diffrences in leveling are becuase of community feedback

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Prophecies was the first game that taught most of us how to play the game, with brand new mechanics and everything, so they made it have a really nice learning curve for us to test everything out. People didn't want to go through that same grind again for the other games, so Anet made them much faster paced.

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Why cant we go back to the days where it was prophecies only. Slower leveling, better players, hard as hell to play. mm hmmm the good ol days.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT
You're all wrong. It's because Prophecies is legit and Factions and NF are both uber-hax0r.
This post wins.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I have 4 Prophecies characters, 3 Factions and 3 Nightfall. My experience is this. From level 1 to 20 by making missions and quests (no running, power leveling or skipping) 6hours a day...1hour a day:
Prophecies: 2weeks..2months.
Factions: 6 hours 6 days.
Nightfall: 15 hours...15 days.

Cool eh?

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

in all actuality, Prophecies and factions have about the same leveling speed. At least, well you can get your character to level 20 in the same amount of time.

In nightfall, you cannot. Which seriously sucked ass.

And Malice is right. That post wins this thread.

Performance Pudding

Performance Pudding

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

post ascalon

Over The [Wall]

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i may get dumped on for saying this but ive found that after prophecies the game became way more gimmiky and got fairly boring. (the game just seemed to lose its sense of authenticity, hard to explain) so i swapped to good ol pre then travelled slowly back into the world of tyria and crept back out into w/e else. btw i got used to the campaigns and they all seem nice now. but to go back to the question i found that you can get to lvl 20 in under 24 hours in pre if you just follow the main questline and do the missions.

the fastest way would probably be: create char 2ndary as mesmer or warrior if u are a mesmer -> academy ->northern wall-> yaks-> LA -> and so on although i said proph missions are the most boring if your trying to be a title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO like i said in the worst missions thread but if your playing for fun is which i try to do prophecies is by far the most enjoyable.

(best war armor in the game is elite charr, fow is over rated and all others are bland, would of been gladiator if they didnt release that gay helm which only looks good if your a elf from lotr)

wow i get off track well really easilly but untill i get home ill be babbling on in these forums.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

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Personally I think Phrophecies leveling was the better method,p you could take your time exploring doing missions etc. NF and Factions both promote high speed through the campaign and few people ever bothered with the quests since the primary quests gave all the xp you needed.

However If you wanted a lvl 20 fast you still could get one in prophecies, in less than a day of play you could easy get to lvl 20 and get through most (if not all) of the campaign much like the other campaigns, the difference is prophecies didnt force you to go at that rate it was an optional choice. IT was far easier to chill out and take things abit at a time. (as in do a mission, go exploring, do a quest, explore some more, maybe do another mission, etc. etc.)

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

I liked the openness of Prophecies, but at the same time it caused a lot of problems when I first started playing the game. I didn't really have any idea where I was, or where I was supposed to be going, and I actually missed a mission or two and parts of the story made no sense because of that. Once you understand that you're supposed to do Primary Quests and Missions to progress in the game, it's fine, but I don't think it actually tells you that anyway.

Both Factions and Nightfall taught you how to play the game better, although the speed you progress in Factions is ridiculously high. I think all of the quests give you between 2,500 - 5000 exp.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Performance Pudding
i may get dumped on for saying this but ive found that after prophecies the game became way more gimmiky and got fairly boring. (the game just seemed to lose its sense of authenticity, hard to explain) so i swapped to good ol pre then travelled slowly back into the world of tyria and crept back out into w/e else. btw i got used to the campaigns and they all seem nice now. but to go back to the question i found that you can get to lvl 20 in under 24 hours in pre if you just follow the main questline and do the missions.

the fastest way would probably be: create char 2ndary as mesmer or warrior if u are a mesmer -> academy ->northern wall-> yaks-> LA -> and so on although i said proph missions are the most boring if your trying to be a title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO like i said in the worst missions thread but if your playing for fun is which i try to do prophecies is by far the most enjoyable.

(best war armor in the game is elite charr, fow is over rated and all others are bland, would of been gladiator if they didnt release that gay helm which only looks good if your a elf from lotr)

wow i get off track well really easilly but untill i get home ill be babbling on in these forums.
punctuation, sentance structure, and proper spelling, and someone might be able to read AND comprehend this post....

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

If Factions and Nightfall leveled as slow as Prophecies did then more than half of Factions and Nightfall content would be pre-level 20 content.
That probably wouldn't have sat too well with all the people who had lvl 20 Prophecies characters that they wanted to play exclusively. They'd be buying Factions and Nightfall for less than half the content.

Lilith Moonraven

Lilith Moonraven

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Moonlotus temple

Moonlotus Soceity

I'm still trying out different character ideas and just trying to find out what works for me.I always go looking for the secondary quests.I find it all very fun and enjoyable.

noblepaladin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Many people have level 20 characters in Prophecies, so if they spend a lot of time making low level content for Factions and Nightfall, people with level 20 characters won't get to enjoy that (unless they make a new char, but some people like their old one).

Matfei

Matfei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

None. Being a loner X-Fire: matfei1

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunder79
No...it's a significant chunk of the storyline in Prophecies...if anything they should eliminate the ability to get run straight to Sanctum Cay and make people at least run through the prophecies campaign. I'm sure there's a significant chunk of the community who won't even know who the Shining Blade are when Livia is introduced in GW:EN (the Shining Blade Necromancer Hero)
And, big surprise, the people who don't know, and get a run, probably don't give a burnt rats arse about the Shining Blade.

ca_aok

ca_aok

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Xen of Onslaught

E/Me

Quote:
Why cant we go back to the days where it was prophecies only. Slower leveling, better players, hard as hell to play. mm hmmm the good ol days.
Prophecies was and is by far the easiest campaign in terms of difficulty... even with the henchmen who use craptastic skills and are always 3 levels or so behind you (going through at an average leveling pace) there were very few spots I had trouble with in prophecies when I first went through it over 2 years ago. THK was simple, anyone who says otherwise is sad or can't follow instructions and/or called targets. The only place I can remember getting stuck was at Hell's Prepice because most pugs couldn't do it, and that wasn't a huge deal since I could still do everything else throughout Tyria until I got a capable group.

Performance Pudding

Performance Pudding

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

post ascalon

Over The [Wall]

W/

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Performance Pudding
i may get dumped on for saying this but ive found that after prophecies the game became way more gimmiky and got fairly boring. (the game just seemed to lose its sense of authenticity, hard to explain) so i swapped to good ol pre then travelled slowly back into the world of tyria and crept back out into w/e else. btw i got used to the campaigns and they all seem nice now. but to go back to the question i found that you can get to lvl 20 in under 24 hours in pre if you just follow the main questline and do the missions.

the fastest way would probably be: create char 2ndary as mesmer or warrior if u are a mesmer -> academy ->northern wall-> yaks-> LA -> and so on although i said proph missions are the most boring if your trying to be a title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO like i said in the worst missions thread but if your playing for fun is which i try to do prophecies is by far the most enjoyable.

(best war armor in the game is elite charr, fow is over rated and all others are bland, would of been gladiator if they didnt release that gay helm which only looks good if your a elf from lotr)

wow i get off track well really easilly but untill i get home ill be babbling on in these forums.


punctuation, sentance structure, and proper spelling, and someone might be able to read AND comprehend this post....
lol well ya sorry about that it was 1 am or somthing when i was writing it. <<<(a period ive improved!)

also i agree with the above posts.

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

Factions has 2k+ rewards on the tutorial island, as does Nightfall. Nightfall also has bounties which give you double xp.

Performance Pudding

Performance Pudding

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

post ascalon

Over The [Wall]

W/

anyone who thinks leveling in prophecies is hard or takes a month of gameplay needs to leave pre searing :P and yes i tryed to tame the bunny to...

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

The real reason is that people wanted more level 20 content than Prophecies had. So they made it in Factions you leveled to 20 quick, so that nearly all the content was for level 20s. Then people said the leveling was too fast so they eased it up in Nightfall.

haggus71

haggus71

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

FotS

Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
punctuation, sentance structure, and proper spelling, and someone might be able to read AND comprehend this post....
If you are going to criticize, at the least use spell check(or were you trying to be ironic?).

I think Factions was why we have a flood of monks who don't know how to heal. People who started out in Proph seem to have a handle of the subtleties in the game. Others tend to see it as c-space-c-space-c-space.......

Acolyte of Zero

Acolyte of Zero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

HoPe

P/W

here's my guess.. as Prophecies is the first campaign they made,
they made it so it's time consuming, hoping that the gaming community will last longer this way.

but after community's input, they decided they shouldn't make each campaign as tedious, instead keep developing new campaign so community will go for long time.. just my guess tho.


NF was my first guildwar campaign I played, so prophecy feels really tedious, but I like the environment so Im still playing it tho..

Performance Pudding

Performance Pudding

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

post ascalon

Over The [Wall]

W/

haggus what was his typo? is sentance spelt setanence or something, well now im just confused and totally bored omg i wanna do something other than forums. >.<

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

It's sentence, even I know that, and I'm dutch.