Quote:
|
Originally Posted by sindex
or when people start to wane off from playing GW.
|
ArenaNet... what have you done... ?!
B E A S T
VitisVinifera
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by AngeloM3
I'm sorry man... but how many "New favor system sucks" threads do we need.
|
which there has been since proph launched
and if there are multiple ones going, merge them....or something
sindex
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by B E A S T
With GW:EN coming out, that is definatley not going to happen any time soon. Anet also announced it had sold over 1 million copies in the last 9 months.
|
Sleeper Service
I wish we could get some official title numbers out of anet.
yes we have permafavour now...but how long is it going to last?
I didnt mind the old system, and i dont mind the new one. Scrolls has made that irrelevant anyways.
yes we have permafavour now...but how long is it going to last?
I didnt mind the old system, and i dont mind the new one. Scrolls has made that irrelevant anyways.
VitisVinifera
sleeper, you could calculate that yourself figuring how many minutes have passed since the new system went into effect, how many minutes of favor we currently have, and that 1 title = 3 min
and yes the current system is entirely arbitrary. There will be surges like now, currently due to both it being new and people wanting to see it work, plus others trying to wrap up old titles before the new game launches (I wanted to wrap up protector of elona and tyrian vanquisher before launch which I did last weekend). So the whole favor thing is stupid when you have around 2000 minutes of favor. Then things will eventually swing into the opposite area, where it will truly be rare to have favor, and we'll experience thermal death (sorry to bust out the cosmological terminology)
A system that made sense, wasn't arbitrary, and preserved a personal sense of accomplishment is what we needed.
and yes the current system is entirely arbitrary. There will be surges like now, currently due to both it being new and people wanting to see it work, plus others trying to wrap up old titles before the new game launches (I wanted to wrap up protector of elona and tyrian vanquisher before launch which I did last weekend). So the whole favor thing is stupid when you have around 2000 minutes of favor. Then things will eventually swing into the opposite area, where it will truly be rare to have favor, and we'll experience thermal death (sorry to bust out the cosmological terminology)
A system that made sense, wasn't arbitrary, and preserved a personal sense of accomplishment is what we needed.
Smile Like Umean It
While I see something is definitely wrong with having favor the way we do now, it isn't my main concern. My whole thing with it is just how in the hell do they think this is going to work for two years? People are gaining titles right and left. Eye of the North might be bringing more, but it's still just an expansion. I don't see how it could possibly have enough new titles to keep this going for more than another three months max.
People are either going to get tired of the game, max everything expect maybe the ridiculous titles out (e.g. Luxon/Kurzick), or just not even care about titles. We'll be right back where we started with not being able to access FoW/UW only this time no one will have it. Which, I think is worse.
Lol. How the hell he managed to get so many "chapters" is beyond me.
You can check it out here.
People are either going to get tired of the game, max everything expect maybe the ridiculous titles out (e.g. Luxon/Kurzick), or just not even care about titles. We'll be right back where we started with not being able to access FoW/UW only this time no one will have it. Which, I think is worse.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by iamanalog
That Gem is from R. Kelly's Trapped in the closet, the most epic of Tales!
|
You can check it out here.
MMSDome
i have no problem with infinite favor, if you do then gtfo
chowmein69
the ectos and shard price hasnt changed since we got this new favor system
but they will maybe go dwon wen GWEN come out
but they will maybe go dwon wen GWEN come out
acidic
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by lyra_song
it was funny....i tried to cap 1,337 minutes, but it didnt hit it... ;-; it was at 1,338
|
Zorgy
Yup....imho the new favor system does not mean anything anymore. Anet should give the favor worldwide without any rule.
I am very satisfied because as I live in Europe & play on american servers, I was only able to do FoW & UW during the weekend. why? When America had favor it was very late in the night or too early in the morning....which didnt match when you have a daytime job
I am very satisfied because as I live in Europe & play on american servers, I was only able to do FoW & UW during the weekend. why? When America had favor it was very late in the night or too early in the morning....which didnt match when you have a daytime job
Sleeper Service
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
sleeper, you could calculate that yourself figuring how many minutes have passed since the new system went into effect, how many minutes of favor we currently have, and that 1 title = 3 min
and yes the current system is entirely arbitrary. There will be surges like now, currently due to both it being new and people wanting to see it work, plus others trying to wrap up old titles before the new game launches (I wanted to wrap up protector of elona and tyrian vanquisher before launch which I did last weekend). So the whole favor thing is stupid when you have around 2000 minutes of favor. Then things will eventually swing into the opposite area, where it will truly be rare to have favor, and we'll experience thermal death (sorry to bust out the cosmological terminology) A system that made sense, wasn't arbitrary, and preserved a personal sense of accomplishment is what we needed. |
1. what specific titles have been maxed during the past X time
2. what titles are in the process of being obtained currently. (in the last 5% of completion for example)
3. how long it takes statistically to max out each indivdual title.
4. "age" of chars and what titles they have maxed.
5. total number of players online at X Y Z times, number of titles being maxed in those timezones.
points 4 and 5 are a little redundant but they would give a clearer overview.
without knowing these we will not be able to correctly estimate a curve.
Koross
Just for the record, I love the gif. 
Dark Dragon
This is just laughable, it really is
Old system - People Complained.
New System just after implementation - People Complained no ones gonna get favor, GW is gonna Die
New System now - People are complaining, the market is gonna die
The next system after implementation - People are gonna complain that no one get's favor, GW is gonna Die
The next system after a while - i still see people complaining, beuase.... well that's all i ever see on guru now-a-days
Old system - People Complained.
New System just after implementation - People Complained no ones gonna get favor, GW is gonna Die
New System now - People are complaining, the market is gonna die
The next system after implementation - People are gonna complain that no one get's favor, GW is gonna Die
The next system after a while - i still see people complaining, beuase.... well that's all i ever see on guru now-a-days
Tahlia Tane
The only thing worse than unecessary complaining is complaining that people are complaining. What the hell!
I'm surprised to see this thread get so big. I thought some moderator was gonna show up and go "wuts dis, sum silly gif? bah! locked!!".
I'm surprised to see this thread get so big. I thought some moderator was gonna show up and go "wuts dis, sum silly gif? bah! locked!!".
Bryant Again
I thought they...made people happy???
EPO Bot
The thing you can learn from this, is that GW is far from dead. It takes a crazy ammount of active players to generate all that favor.
Remember how the original complaint was that there would never be enough titles maxed to keep favor on for more then a few minutes?
Hell! I have this game for one year and a half, and i only maxed one title.
Remember how the original complaint was that there would never be enough titles maxed to keep favor on for more then a few minutes?
Hell! I have this game for one year and a half, and i only maxed one title.
Hyper.nl
Can't we just get back to the old system? Europe ftw. 
NeHoMaR
Remember that event when access to UW/FoW was free? that was the last time I played in that places! (and I play everyday)
MrFuzzles
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
This is just laughable, it really is
Old system - People Complained. New System just after implementation - People Complained no ones gonna get favor, GW is gonna Die New System now - People are complaining, the market is gonna die |
Yeah, this system isn't ideal. I agree that it's kinda pointless when we have favor constantly, but it's not the freaking end of the world. I'm sure anet understands this and will tweak it over time. Call me naive.
I would be more inclined to complain if favor was so rare that one practically never got to do fow/uw.
Kool Pajamas
People will start running out eventually. It may be a few months but it'll slow down.
Yichi
and you say that the PvP community bitches too much.....
stueyman2099
Wait, I'm confused? I thought you guys hated the idea of Favor being controlled by PvP? You don't like this system?
Big_Iron
I'm not complaining. I think the new system is great! I imagine it will start to slow down at some point and fewer people will be maxing out titles. But I don't have a crystal ball, so who knows?
Chieftain Heavyhand
This new system is great now no one has a monopoly on favor.
I think some complain for the sake of complaining while others are complaining because now everyone has a chance.
The new system rocks. PvE content controlled by PvE actions who would have thunk it.
I think some complain for the sake of complaining while others are complaining because now everyone has a chance.
The new system rocks. PvE content controlled by PvE actions who would have thunk it.
Jecht Scye
God loves me too much, so I'm going to complain about it.
Sleeper Service
i love the way the only people complaining here...are complaining about people complaining.
NO ONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FAVOUR SYSTEM WE ARE SIMPLY CURIOUS.
...either you are not bothering reading or you are deliberately misinterpreting what is being said.
NO ONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FAVOUR SYSTEM WE ARE SIMPLY CURIOUS.
...either you are not bothering reading or you are deliberately misinterpreting what is being said.
Shadowmoon
Wait til GW:EN, less people doin the grind titles because there will be something to do, Less people getting the legendary titles because there more things there have to do to get it. i suspect favor will drop this weekend, cause i doubt any of the gwen titles can be max in one weekend no mater how hard core, except for mb a glitch.
Rusty Deth
You know what i find funny is when they changed it, alot of people said we'd never have favor because not that many people go for titles.
I like this new system cause it gives us all a better view on how many people play this game.
I like this new system cause it gives us all a better view on how many people play this game.
R!ghteous Ind!gnation
Favor should be something thats special.... not something that I have for the next month... also ruins ecto price....
Patrick Smit
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Malice Black
They might as well just drop favor all together if this carries on.
|
billypowergamer
I think that there is one factor that has been forgotten in this whole discussion. There are a large number of students out there that are on summer vacation, and most likely more time on their hands then they normally would have, so maxing out titles is most likely happening at a much faster rate right now then it would when they are in school. For all those saying that we have infinate favor, I suggest revisiting this thread towards the end of september when school is back in full swing.
LethalHands
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
i love the way the only people complaining here...are complaining about people complaining.
NO ONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FAVOUR SYSTEM WE ARE SIMPLY CURIOUS. ...either you are not bothering reading or you are deliberately misinterpreting what is being said. |
Diddy bow
I dont care what they do with favor if ectos stay at 5.5. If a-et would just fix them there already and accept they are currency . Wither remove SS and LB titles or rework the system completly this is a miscalculation on a-nets part.
. Wither remove SS and LB titles or rework the system completly this is a miscalculation on a-nets part.
Njaiguni Blaze
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by iamanalog
That Gem is from R. Kelly's Trapped in the closet, the most epic of Tales!
|
Anyways, I couldn't care less what gives us favor and in which amount. Any time I wanted to fool around in the FoW, we had favor, so there's no difference to me.
btw, would be nice if they still showed what region won halls.
Loviatar
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
in case you havent noticed it when you try to take something away the scream is much louder than when they were trying to get it in the first place.
accept that Anet/NCsoft have decided these areas are now open to anybody.
3 minutes is not enough to keep permafavor?.....make it 10
titles still are not maxing enough to keep permafavor?.........each stage now counts as well
still not enough?........ascending a character adds an hour
people like it oprn ANET WILL KEEP IT OPEN
VitisVinifera
Loviatar, my favorite stalker, as may others have stated, if it's Anet's intention to keep uw/fow perma open, then just remove favor altogether. I'm fine with that -- at least then we know their intentions and they are being honest about it, rather than this pointless charade of tying titles into it and announcing it to everyone.
and as for Anet constantly adjusting the minutes and/or title tiers for favor, you and I both know Anet has failed at balancing that initially and doesn't have the manpower to update these arbitrary figures on a timely basis.
As for a system that makes sense, is fair, and maintains some sort specialness to uw/fow and a fair relevance to ectos/shards, I'm sure there's a suggestion thread (or ten) that have laid out some very good ideas.
and as for Anet constantly adjusting the minutes and/or title tiers for favor, you and I both know Anet has failed at balancing that initially and doesn't have the manpower to update these arbitrary figures on a timely basis.
As for a system that makes sense, is fair, and maintains some sort specialness to uw/fow and a fair relevance to ectos/shards, I'm sure there's a suggestion thread (or ten) that have laid out some very good ideas.
Vahn Roi
What's wrong with the current favor system? Is this another "my (insert item you wasted time farming) is worthless now!" thread?
Jecht Scye
Some of us didn't like waiting a month to be able to play FoW. I like the current changes to the favor system and couldn't give a crap about how it effects the precious ecto/shard market. I just want something fun to do every now and then. FoW is fun, and i'd rather not wait up until 2am when America finally gets favor in HA to be able to play it. Just pretend it's permanently open if you want, but please stop the bitching already.
Longasc
Favor was a mess before
Favor is a mess now.
Now we also have a doomsday indicator. As soon as favor minutes go down or favor is lost for a longer period, we can start the "IS GW DYING" threads.
Favor is a mess now.
Now we also have a doomsday indicator. As soon as favor minutes go down or favor is lost for a longer period, we can start the "IS GW DYING" threads.
Series
I am starting to see what Anet means with their "damned if we do, damned if we don't situation"...
"WE WANT FAVOR FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST EUROPE, WE WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE A CHANCE!!!"
*anet makes favor easier to get and checks the forums to see what those people say now*
"ANET WTH??? WHY DID YOU GIVE US ALL FAVOR???"
Thank goodness the people on this forum are just a loud minority.
The only acceptable thing to complain about, IMO, is that once GW2 comes out, favor will probably be very rare, so hopefully they edit it to make it easier then.
"WE WANT FAVOR FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST EUROPE, WE WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE A CHANCE!!!"
*anet makes favor easier to get and checks the forums to see what those people say now*
"ANET WTH??? WHY DID YOU GIVE US ALL FAVOR???"
Thank goodness the people on this forum are just a loud minority.
The only acceptable thing to complain about, IMO, is that once GW2 comes out, favor will probably be very rare, so hopefully they edit it to make it easier then.