Monument to Honor/PVP titles in HOM - ridiculously high tier requirements?

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

I hate people who say 'o its only a preview' or 'o give it time'. I'm paying them for a final product and not on a freaking beta. So with only a week left until the actual release, it is extremely unlikely anything will change

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

Seems to me this is just backwards, this expnsion is geared towards PvE, but the honur titles are geared to PvP, and hardcore PvP at that, so what hardcore PvP player is goign to set out to go through a PvE game to unlock the HOM, so they can display their title in it? Not many i would think, and even if their is droves of them leaving their hardcore PvP game to attain this wont that me harmful to the PvP game?

I spend most of my time doing PvE and this big monument i was looking forward to is totally useless, I now have to grind PvP titles up to rediculous levels in order to display them,

what a wonderful development

luilui

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

99% of the pvp players i know also play pve, so i'm sure they wont mind going through the trouble of unlocking it.

i don't understand why u ppl bitch so much, if r12 is too high then i guess fow armor is similar, if u dont farm hardcore or trade hardcore how can u really get one? let's nerf that too??

Darko_UK

Darko_UK

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

England

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by luilui
99% of the pvp players i know also play pve, so i'm sure they wont mind going through the trouble of unlocking it.

i don't understand why u ppl bitch so much, if r12 is too high then i guess fow armor is similar, if u dont farm hardcore or trade hardcore how can u really get one? let's nerf that too??
It's all ME ME ME with you isn't it? In case you didn't notice fow armour was nerfed, ectos @ 5k each?!? anyone can get it now even by casualy playing - hell you could proberly get 3 sets in 6 months playing an hour a day now

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vazze
big failure. ok, I am gonna die with gw1, I am cool, but for god's sake give me a f. tomb will ya!!!
I'm with ya big man, so far not too excited about the direction of GW2 from a PvE or PvP standpoint.

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

What were you guys expecting of this Hall of Monuments? Too high title tracks are something that can be easily changed based on feedback with this beta, it's just details. It's an e-peen contest supported by ANET - show off what you got. PvE titles, PvP titles, they are just time spend farming. If you're able to get one unit towards any title track, you're able to complete it. There is the "skill", rest is "time spent". And on top of that there's a very high chance no one except you care about what titles you have.

I say **** the whole monument. I'm playing this game because I like to play it, not because I have some compelling need to complete every single title track. I play with my friends and when I'm not playing with my friends I play with heroes. What I care about is what quality the gameplay is. I don't understand this discussion. Maybe that's because I'm growing out of this MMO mentality.

ScorpDeception63

ScorpDeception63

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kentucky

Shaemoor University [UoS] (Leader)

W/Mo

Personally, I see flaws in every single monument, not just Valor (although I am very unhappy about the monument of valor, VERY).

I love how people are saying "It's going to keep people addicted to the game".

Disagreed.

First of all, you have to literraly have NO LIFE if you even want to even try and achieve max tiers of the PvP titles, what is that saying?

Second, wtf, no PvE title displays? That REALLY ticked me off. Correct me If I'm wrong but didn't a PC Gamer article say something to the effect of "Be sure and get the Kind Of A Big Deal titles, because they will be very important for GW-2 and the HoM." Unless they plan for us to max out 5 PvP titles (lmao...), I guess that article was wrong. I am going to be severly dissapointed and lose a lot of my respect to Guild Wars if they don't fix the errors in the HoM.

Current HoM=Failed

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScorpDeception63
Correct me If I'm wrong but didn't a PC Gamer article say something to the effect of "Be sure and get the Kind Of A Big Deal titles, because they will be very important for GW-2 and the HoM." Unless they plan for us to max out 5 PvP titles (lmao...), I guess that article was wrong. I am going to be severly dissapointed and lose a lot of my respect to Guild Wars if they don't fix the errors in the HoM.

Current HoM=Failed
You know what? Kind of a big deal is actually *mentioned* on the title monument. So basically the article was right and that's all there is to it, no other pve-related titles are important enough.

max gladius

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

its almost like, they put together GWEN last month.... or shall i say, the edited Prophecies enough to drop everything from every campaign and HA.... and they just realized on Thursday... oh crap! that monument thing for ppl.... ahhh, no worries i can throw somethen together real fast....

and that is what we got.....

Ace123

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

[Nuke]

W/N

I have r6 HA rank and am disappointed that I cannot put my title into the HoM. Some people have r9, but what about all the other people who have gotten rank lower than 9? I will say this: If I can't pass over my r6 to GW2, I'm not gonna buy GW2.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Guys think about it this way; all the purpose of the HoM is to give you free stuff in GW2. If ANet made the requirements low then EVERYONE would be putting their 60% explorer titles which will mean that the 'exclusive' GW2 items will be nothing more than another Miniture Pig

Please think about the big picture.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

i am halfway through gladiator 6, and i will tell you all, it takes a $H1+LOAD of time and effort. i only get 3-4 points on a GOOD day. i am already growing weary of grinding this title. gladiator 7 feels so far away. about 150 more points....1500 wins which MUST consist of 10-streaks. and considering the many times my streaks fail in middle, or worse, near the end, i am looking at WAY over 3000 battles.

....

AND GLADIATOR 9 IS 2160 MOTHERF**KING POINTS! THAT IS NEARLY TRIPLE THE AMOUNT REQUIRED FOR GLADIATOR 7 (775)! I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DESIRE TO GRIND THAT MUCH MORE! ANET SHAFTED ME! I WORKED SO HARD AND HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT! IM RUINED!

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

^Dude the req has been lowered to rank 3 glad. Which is a very reasonable rank.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

srsly?

;_; cries tears of joy

....

it would be REALLY MEAN if you were kidding.....

EDIT: ok it's true, checked on wiki.... now if only they made my reward in GW2 cooler than those puny gladiator 3's...

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildwiki
Random or Team Arena:

* Eternal Gladiator: Obtained by earning rank 3 in the Gladiator title track. Depicts a map of the PVP isles.
Source:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Monument_of_Honor

Not joking, though I don't have that rank, so can't check the HoM myself, I doubt wiki has it wrong.

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

meh - rank 3 for kurzicks needed - should be higher imo

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by the Puppeteer
meh - rank 3 for kurzicks needed - should be higher imo
True, very easy to attain.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Wiki says you need rank 8 for the eternal hero display but down the bottom it says rank 9. Can anyone comment on this?

"Hero's Ascent:
Eternal Hero: Obtained by earning rank 8 in the Hero title track. Depicts a map of the PVP isles.

Notes:
The minimal rank for PvP titles to be shown is 3rd (except 9th for Hero)."

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

As a pve, I doubt I will have any pvp titles (who knows about the future).
That being said, not having access to this doesn't bother me at all.

HoM is an Unlock stuff in GW2, and I pretty sure Anet will link an PvP unlock to a PvP feature in GW2. Since I'm not big on PvP (less AvA or AB battles), missing out on PvP unlocks on GW2 is not a bad things to me.

I'm also for a special map warp that allows pvp access to HoM just like access to the various pvp warps (but blocked from pve zone's).

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Any new players to the game can just plain forget about the hero monument lol.

Um Yeah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Illusions of Grandeur [Illu]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
Wiki says you need rank 8 for the eternal hero display but down the bottom it says rank 9. Can anyone comment on this?

"Hero's Ascent:
Eternal Hero: Obtained by earning rank 8 in the Hero title track. Depicts a map of the PVP isles.

Notes:
The minimal rank for PvP titles to be shown is 3rd (except 9th for Hero)."
In case anyone is too lazy to go to wiki, it's r8. Guess someone forgot to edit the bottom part there...

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Um Yeah
In case anyone is too lazy to go to wiki, it's r8. Guess someone forgot to edit the bottom part there...
Thanks, I wasn't sure.