Need some advice for Grand Court, Dzagonur Bastion. Hard Mode

Floski

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Rank Three Plus Pug [deer]

W/

I'm trying to do this on hardmode with my warrior. I'm lightbringer 4. I don't really have any people I know that pve, so I either need amazing tips/advice, or someone to come help. Any tips/advice for hero/henchies?

And Gates of Madness/Pain, Jennur's Horde, Nundu Bay, Dasha Vestibule. I haven't tried em yet, but I'm sure they are hard as hell.

Jared The Faithfull

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

I've never tried Dazgonur in HM, but It seems to me the best strategey would be 3 MMs, at least one LoD healer, and a few highly mobile warriors/rangers that can drop Clerics and generals without much help. Communication is important in this mission.

As for Gate of Madness, it IS doable, even a party from my guild made it (too bad I wasn't there), dunno how they did it though.

Jennur's Horde isn't very difficult, just play it as you would normally, only take one more healer. As long as you can intercept the raids well, it's not that hard.

You forgot one piss-hard mission: Grand Court of Sebelkeh .

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared The Faithfull
You forgot one piss-hard mission: Grand Court of Sebelkeh . Am I the only one who found this incredibly easy (full hero/hench)? Just charge into the middle, aggro as much as you can, kill it all, and win the mission. If you die, aggro less the second time. If your time isn't easily master, you're not aggroing enough.

thral

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Am I the only one who found this incredibly easy (full hero/hench)? Just charge into the middle, aggro as much as you can, kill it all, and win the mission. If you die, aggro less the second time. If your time isn't easily master, you're not aggroing enough. Its a solo mission

Floski

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Rank Three Plus Pug [deer]

W/

Yeah I managed to finish Grand Court, got incredibly lucky. The henchies/heroes are too dumb to stay in wards or relocate as soon as a well with -4 degen goes up. And they heroes don't keep up full time wards, have no idea how to manage energy as monks.

I can't seem to do Bastion. Anyone mind bringing an MM to help?

Lafayette

Lafayette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Floski
I'm lightbringer 4.
Well, one possible piece of advice is to simply raise your LB rank. If r4 isn't enough, try r6, because heroes also benefit from the title's effects - meaning, they also gain damage reduction, etc.

For Dzagonur, as Jared said an LoD monk was very useful. I essentially set up two independent teams, with a monk, a tank, MM, and other damage dealer (SS or SF); I think I must have had a friend help out with it. Worked well enough, though from memory I didn't attain masters the first time

Quote: Originally Posted by Jared The Faithfull You forgot one piss-hard mission: Grand Court of Sebelkeh . He mentioned Grand Court in the thread's title.

Quote: Originally Posted by Avarre
Am I the only one who found this incredibly easy (full hero/hench)? Just charge into the middle, aggro as much as you can, kill it all, and win the mission. If you die, aggro less the second time. If your time isn't easily master, you're not aggroing enough. Pretty much my strategy. Myself and Mhenlo were able to out-heal the damage with some damage mitigation skills on Koss and r8 LB. Two SF eles and one or two mesmer caster interrupts on them and enemies went down fast enough.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thral
Its a solo mission No, that's Tihark Orchard. Grand Court of Selbelkeh is a full 8-player mission.

oljomo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

grand court i just did with full H+H, had tahlk, an mm with well of suffering ( to try and beat teh warlocks to teh corpses) and an earth ele hero (churning earth KDS all moving foes in hard mode, and eruption is a great skill too) along with the two monk and two ele heroes.

Have a look at wiki, and see if you can take down teh right guys to not spawn the next group of guys til your ready for it, i got 7:26 in it

gate of madness you NEED something that can tank shiro while the rest of teh team clears the zones, best way we found to do this was 1 monk and one crit defenses sin, can tank shiro indefinately (and the assassin can almost just walk away from teh computer while doing it

Gate of pain interrupts are the key, however this one isnt that much harder than normal mode.

Iron Monkey

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

New Dragons [NDR]

Mo/Me

Dzagonur is tough. It's lots of spawns, they move quick, and they hit hard (spirit bond triggers almost every time). It's quite crazy. I have tried and failed several times, but it seems that teh best strategy would be to put all the disciples to the left, and camp the monk spawn, and nuke him dead when he appears, then quickly move back, soak up the mobs, and hit the warrior spawn hard, then move back quickly to the centre, soak up the mobs, and hit the paragon boss, then to the last ele, which should be easy, although he can wipe out the whole team by himself.

Also given the body count, I wonder if spamming putrid explosion would actually work as a form of nuke. You need big spike damage to quickly get rid of the ever spawning mobs and boss.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

there's a Dzagonur thread that should be up here pretty high, I posted in it recently. Lots of good info in there. The good thing about Dzagonur is that it's fast and everything is in line of sight, so if you mess up, you can get back to that point in minutes and change strategies.

I'll emphasize Lafayette's suggestion: do some lb runs from Salahja and its pretty easy to gain levels.

echX

echX

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared The Faithfull
You forgot one piss-hard mission: Grand Court of Sebelkeh .
Quote:
Originally Posted by oljomo
Have a look at wiki, and see if you can take down teh right guys to not spawn the next group of guys til your ready for it, i got 7:26 in it Actually me and my guild team finished Grand Court in only 5:58, Master Reward in Hard Mode. Of course we had come up with a plan before the mission and used VoIP communication which was a great help.

Time limit for Grand Court in NM: 6 min
Time limit for Grand Court in HM: 12 min

5:58 in HM looks pretty neat huh?

"All" we did was bring 1 Protection Monk, 1 Heal monk and packed the rest of the party with Lightbringers Gaze (LB). Everytime a Cleric showed up we spiked it with LB. A warrior and the Healing Monk kept an eye on the center altar, while the others took out one rift at a time. The warrior and the Heal Monk helped the party out untill the glowing guy that turn into those little glowing ball thingys showed up.

The key IS cooperation here, to get all to move in the same direction and attack the SAME target, clerics FIRST. Other than that, it's pretty straight forward... If you haven't managed to complete the mission allready, you will complete it in no time!

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

did bastion very easily 2 people ran ursanway 1 sin with kd's me as BHA ranger

send all allys to easy stand I went west with nuker and monk heroes
MoW as MM
Olias as SS
MoW, SS,ursans and sin killed general i stopped attacking mobs :P

very easily done not actually hard at all

alliance teams ftw

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

R/

Hi

For Grand court, a good solid domination/interurpt mesmer and a Bha ranger would work wonders. As soo n as the mission start run to the center fountain clear it and run to a portal, dont worry about the ghost thing, clear a portal that go back to center and kill ghost and spheres, rinse and repeat, it takes the blasphemy aliitle bit of time before he takes control of center, you should have the portal you was on shut down and in your control, also hight ranjs in lightbringers help alot .

Good luck

PS, Hi Payne. Floski definetly listen to what payne is advising you, he definetly knows what he is talking about

ajmorgan25

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Koss Stole My [WIFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by thral
Its a solo mission Wow, talk about a shutdown.

Asprah

Asprah

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Croatia

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

N/A

floski if you still need bastion,wisp me ingame ; IGN Asprah Morte.
I used to be PVP-er like you so coudnt find decent PVE teams. Now i joined very good PVE guild but I am bit behind ,since they are all HC title farmers and i dont have 1 main character.
So i would like to do that mission with you,wisp me if interested.