A list of Max Titles not acknowledged in HoM (help appreciated)

I'd like to use this thread to collect a comprehensive list of Titles not included in the Hall of Monuments. Please only add a title to the list if you have confirmed it isn't represented in the HoM by 1) Having a character attain a maximum level in that title, and 2) had that character visit the Hall of Monuments.

The list so far:

Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer
Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer
Elonian Grandmaster Cartographer
Legendary Cartographer

Tyrian Skill Hunter
Canthan Skill Hunter
Elonian Skill Hunter
Legendary Skill Hunter

Legendary Survivor
Legendary Spearmarshal.............(ty Tarus From Taros)
Holy Lightbringer.......................(ty Tarus From Taros)
Grandmaster Treasure Hunter......(ty leprekan)
Legendary Vanquisher................(ty Arcane Guardian)
Legendary Guardian...................(ty Arcane Guardian)
Legendary Defender of Ascalon....(ty MeatAxe)
Connoisseur of Confectionaries.....(ty Matrix)
Source of Wisdom......................(ty Rahl)





I'm still curious to see if the Drunkard, Kurz/Lux titles are mentioned anywhere in the Hall. If anyone has maxed any of those titles, and subsequently visited the HoM, I would love to know if those titles appear on display anywhere.

I'll Edit this post to include other titles for ease of reading, and attribute credit to the contributor.

Footnote on Protector/guardian titles:
The current acknowledgement for Protector Titles doesn't reflect actually getting masters (or M&B) on all missions on a continent. Rather, it simply checks to see that you have completed the last mission. As an example: My mesmer defeated Abaddon in Nightfall, but only has 14/20 in the Elonian Protector title track. Despite this short coming, when approaching the Honor monument it denotes her as a Protector of Elona (overthrew Varesh, took out Abby, etc etc.). I'm hoping this is a bug, as it is odd that you can get credit for a Title (though it is admittedly a minor credit, with no bells and whistles) without actually achieving the presumed requirement.

Edit:
The prot/guardian titles make a total of 7 titles... and they aren't acknowledged either. Though some consider these easy titles to acquire, others find them rather challanging. It is very insulting to dismiss the accomplishments of those people. My 2 cents.

It's not giving credit for Protectors like the OP says. It's only giving credit for beating the game, which is a 100% separate thing from Protector.

The answer to your question is simple. It doesn't credit you with any PVE titles whatsoever. Other than a text blurb about what rank of KOABD you have. That's it.

Navaros is correct. My necro still has not gotten masters on the final "kill shiro" mission in Cantha, yet is still credited with defeating Shiro and saving Kisu and all that jazz. So it's entirely linked to defeating the campaigns, not Protector or any other PvE title.

I got max SS and LB, nothing is mentioned. Only PVE title that is going to get mentioned is KoBD title track.

Yeh I can confirm the SS and LB as well.

/off topic(ish) I'm starting not to care about the lack of PVE titles now anyway, if they don't unlock anything in GW2 what's the point? I was sort of expecting to see little stone scrolls for each maxed title and all we get is a clickable case? Hell if someone wants to see my KoaBD track they can just mouse over me...

Seriously, Gaile.. please do let us know if there's any point to this grinding anymore?

So there is no point really in getting the titles

To be honest I think they aren't entirely done with the Hall of Monuments, and still have to insert PvE titles into it. It could also be that they just wanted to wait until GW:EN goes live so that only people who have GW:EN can drop off those titles.

Here is a short list of the max titles I have which I can rememebr off hand, all of which are not recorgnized.

- Sunspear
- All Explorers
- Tyria/Elona Protector
- Elona Skills

The game does recognize that you beat each of the three games, I suppose it will recognize you beat eh destoryer at some point (although I wont hold my breath).

In my opion, the fact that it could care less about any PvE titles makes me very much less likely to even buy the game. I require my e-peen.

I think, they think, they did a great job on it and they thought it was perfect. It sucks, we all know this to be true. They sold GWEN via the HoM and the HoM isn't worth it, specially if it is suppose to link GW to GW2.

It is the same as people seeing the map and thinking aloud that the map had to be just for the pre-view weekend, and as we found out, no thats the entire map. Stop trying to give them thge benefit of the doubt, they dont deserve it. I used to support them, but now, i see i was wrong.

So... so wait, no PvE titles are going to be acknowledged?

We don't all delve into PvE. I'll dip my toe into the RA waters every now and again but, generally, I prefer to play with people than against them.

Oh well, I wanted GW:EN for the storyline and new skills anyway.

Uh...there never was except for your own gratification?

Sunspear and Lightbringer have some benefits ofcourse in that the PvE skills become a bit better but Protector or Guardian titles never had any significance other then what you choose to give it.

im pretty sure its not a bug with the protector titles. you should get different monuments though. I remember in the video i saw online that it said your be achknowledged for completinga campaign

Seems pretty pathetic to me the whole hall has nothign in it for me i spent most of my time aquiring PVE max titles and none will be represented i have 3 PVP title and two arent represented Luxon and Kurzick. I have Hero title at level 3 so that is. total waste for me. I have twelve maxed titles on my mesmer and none are goign to be repreented, as accordign to this you get Protector simply by beating the last mission. only my People know me will be there, and as it climbs i suppose that will be shown

Whats the point of having a monument that represents elitism, that shows PvP titles, but no PVE. the pets become customised to a character, so how do we aquire the rare pets now? woudl you trust someone to sell you an uncustomised one? How do the weapons work? do we have to customise them are they rare ones? i cant get it to ackowledge my green weapons and i dont want to customise them as i use them across the heroes i have on ten characters.

I'll be able to add the odd armour and obviously heroes and pets, but everythign else is just a waste

<Grand master treasure hunter .... NOT listed (considering the effort and cost for that title would love to know why).

It's safe to say we got quite conned UNLESS they're not done with the HoM yet.

It was indeed made out to be so much better than it was, seems like a marketing ploy right now. gg anet

Wait, the only max title I have a remote possibility of getting (max survivor) isn't even considered worth it.

One of my in game friends who has 3-4 leg survivors is going to be pissed.

I find it strange that a character-based HoM only acknowledges account-based pvp titles. I would hope that this will be fixed before release.

In the current version of the game (current being this morning around 2am, the last time I was in game near the HoM)...it says the "Honor" section of the HoM is for displaying PvP titles...it says that specifically...so I would say it's safe to assume no PvE titles will be allowed to have a monument there.

As for showing up on the Scroll....there seems to be only 4 spots:
Kind of a Big Deal
Completion of the Prophecies campaign (finishing the final mission only)
Completion of the Factions Campaign (finishing the final mission only)
Completion of the Nightfall Campaign (finishing the final mission only

I have gotten protector so the three completions show up...I do not have Kind of a Big Deal yet and it simply states that fact. Since it has a spot for a title I haven't gotten yet, I would assume no other titles will be displayed there. Wouldn't they have spots like KoaBD if they were going to show up?

If this is not the final version of the HoM I would assume Gaile would try to ease the fears of the people playing the preview now by letting us know it's not the final version. This would reduce the freak out factor on the forums quite a bit if there was an official response about it.

What I think is much more likely is that this is indeed the final version of the HoM....now what this means is...Gaile and Anet will think much more carefully about their response...considering the upcoming release they don't want to confirm the fears of people who are sitting on the fence about buying the expansion. In fact I would bet that we won't hear any response from Gaile regarding this if this is the final version of the HoM...at least not until we've purchased the game and the money is safely in their bank account.

Then again they might just be waiting until Monday to make a response to our concerns.

Well, that is a disappointment. I dont pvp under any circumstances. Not even a single guild battle in two years. I am purely pve oriented player, my main character has 18 maxed titles. I can confirm that i cant display any of those titles. And I wanted to display my legendary vanquisher and legendary guardian for example. Lets hope this is not final hall of monuments version.

Then again, I did not gather those title purely for HoM...

However..
I used a tapestry to display armor instead, but it is showing what seems like a ranger armor instead of ele armor for my main character. I doubt they wanted it this way.

The hall definitely needs some changes.

Lol..i showed my NecromancerObsidien Armor, and it Showes me a Ritualist one.

Why is he going to be pissed?

Think about it this way, by the time his characters' decendents are born, the legendary survivor is already dead.

Pretty much perfectly well said. Maxing out titles for this HoM thingy will be pointless if the only gratification u get is a little clickable thing. Like saraphim said, might as well scroll your mouse over the name.

<legendary vanquisher....and no credit...

Was looking forward to putting that into HoM. Very disappointed with the titles that we are allowed to display. Also not thrilled about the HoM and weapons. Only high end weapons from GW:EN can be added...no zodiacs or torments...

Hope they still working on adding to HoM before official release.

I spent last weekend wrapping up these titles, for 2 reasons:
1. Once GWEN is released it's going to be a lot harder finding ppl to help me gain them;
2. For the HoM

So, last weekend, I maxed Lightbringer, Tyrian Vanquisher, Elonian Defnder, and Legendary Defender.

And.....now this. Failure.

I won't buy GWEN until I know if this (and the many other HoM failures) are addressed. Simple as that. If Anet encourages grind then pulls this stunt, time to cut my losses.

That's why the subject of this thread and the OP asks about titles appearing anywhere in the Hall of Monuments, not just at the Monument of Honor.

Well I have Sweet Tooth title (2) and it is not showing ether.

I can see why Anet did this.

The recognize beating the 3 games, Pvp max rank titles, and Kinda of Big Deal which is any 3 titles maxed out.

Anet trying to balance what comes in. No matter what, everyone could be pissed. I kinda like the idea more that I think about it.

Hom looks like it merged the pve and pvp titles in one monument.

Well, I can tell you that LDoA doesn't get recognition either. I don't think any PvE titles get recognition at the current time, but I am hoping that once GWEN is actually released, they will add that feature to the HoM. My theory is that, since the titles monument doesn't need a tapestry, Anet wanted to make it impossible for it to be filled up straight away (which is why they chose PvP titles. I don't think that many people have maxed out those).

Well, I wouldn't have a problem with it being like this if we could actually have a display for kind of a big deal and beating the three games. I mean, I liked reading all that text about how great my character is the first time, but I'd much rather have some shiny monument there instead.

Also, I was kind of hoping that LDoA would get some recognition, simply because in GW2 I'm assuming we'll be going back to Ascalon. So it'd be kind of cool to get that recognition. But I think I'm more in favour of PvE titles in general getting some sort of recognition.

Fail? You're at least two years premature, mate.

Other than it being a source of minor amusement that a PvE-only area is where a monument to mainly PvP titles exists, the HoM is currently not taxing my consciousness in any way.

It's work-in-progress, so save the carping till next week when it goes live. Or actually, til GW2 come out. And even then, your character won't actually lose any thing until the last GW server is turned off.

I agree, there are a lot of shortfalls with the HoM, lack of PvE titles being one of them. But I think we, the player community, have risen enough of a fuss to send a clear message to Anet. Let's hope that, even if things are not better by release, the HoM will evolve more as we draw closer to GW2.

I think it's ironic that the what we saw celebrates metagaming (collecting miniatures) and completely ignores actually playing the game (PvE titles).

Oh well.

I find it interesting that PvP titles can be shown but not PvE titles for a PvE monument.

KEEP PVP TITLES OUT OF PVE ....

I can't belive they just figured this out with favor, then immediately turned around and placed emphasis on PvP in PvE zones again with the HoM.

I dont PvP hardly at all, don't care about Glad points but the HoM is forcing me to to get the full benifits this bites

At least when my Necro put in her Vabbian armor, a necro with vabbian armor appeared

Q. Hmm...why does HoM allow you to add legends for only PvP titles?
A. There is no "Maxed Title" track for PvP titles. "Kind of a Big Deal" is just the first level of that "Maxed Titles" title track. And it's hard to achieve with only PvP.

Q. Hmm...then why don't you add a "Maxed title" track for Maxed titles for PvP?
A. There are not enough tracks to make it worthwhile.

Q. Maybe...just maybe we can think differently here. How about this:

2 Maxed PvP titles: "I see Dead People"
4 Maxed PvP titles: "I still see Dead People"
6 or Maxed PvP titles: "Mom I am in a morgue!"

Jokes aside, I think HoM needs a lot of changes to make it worthwhile.

- Vel

Hall of Monuments doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I actually find the whole thing quite idiotic and much ado about nothing.

Can somebody please explain to me why I can't display all of my stupid titles. Why am I limited to what I can show?

I'm not saying that every single accomplishment in GW1 needs to correspond to something in GW2. I could care less about GW2, it's 2 years away. If there was no benefit from HoM in GW2, I wouldn't care.

What I care about is going to the Hall of Monuments and looking at something to see all my GW accomplishments, instead of just looking at the "H" listing.

I don't care that people will think it's "E-Peen" (funny the first time, tremendously annoying now) to show off your accomplishments. Mostly I just want this so *I* can look at them, I don't care if nobody else ever sees them other than under my character's feet in towns and outposts.

Also, I know this thread isn't about this, but....customized to character mini pets? That is just dumb. I get why Anet is doing it and I agree with their reasoning, but there are better ways to address the problem. IMHO of course. Why does the customization need to occur in GW1? How about you just make anything that come out of HoM in GW2 customized? Only that character can use those weapons, minis, armor, etc. and nobody can sell them and make money. What possible difference does it make to anyone if a character in GW2 has access to all GW1 minis? If they are customized, and unsellable, and btw, lest we forget, you can only use one weapon, one mini, one set of armor at a time. Also, I would hope that GW2 will be so cool that I won't even miss the things I had in GW1. Nor will I waste my time bringing over "old news" stuff into this new game.

Source of Wisdom isn't on there either...

Big Thanks to Tarus From Taros, leprekan, Arcane Guardian, MeatAxe, Matrix, and Rahl for providing confirmation on the Max Titles not appearing in HoM. Hopefully A-Net is formulating some kind of response to this.

I know there has been much hun-bub about making HoM account wide. I'm cool with it being a character by character basis. Personally, I'm more concerned about recognition for challanging PvE accomplishments... it just doesn't seem to be there.