Custmized Mini-Pets... your thoughts..

Chestnut

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Hi yall, Well most of us have more then one toon, and I assume that some of us here on the fourms might be lucky enough to own a rare mini-pet. Like A Mini Zhed, or Greased lightning or Panda..

Now how do you feel about FOREVER marking that mini pet as one of your toons and not being able to use it on other toons? I dunno about you, but the rare mini pet I have.. I worked very very hard to obtain.. and now if I wanna put it on display I cant move it around to my other toons to use it whenever I want.

Cause its going to be cuztomized for that toon... ...

Grr..

wilderness

wilderness

tinyurl.com/6hqar7a

Join Date: Mar 2006

We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO]

W/N

I wholeheartedly agree that minis added to HoM should be customized to prevent every player from filling their hall and negating all achievement.. but customization should definitely onehundredpercentwithoutadoubt be TIED TO THE ACCOUNT and NOT TO THE CHARACTER.

I'd imagine this not being a major issue to change (correct me if I'm wrong).

Chestnut

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Ok, I'll say that if it HAS to be custmized.. which I perfer it didn't.. I'm okay with it being customized for the account.. but to customize my panda or Zhed for ONE of my chars?

....

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilderness
I wholeheartedly agree that minis added to HoM should be customized to prevent every player from filling their hall and negating all achievement.. but customization should definitely onehundredpercentwithoutadoubt be TIED TO THE ACCOUNT and NOT TO THE CHARACTER.

I'd imagine this not being a major issue to change (correct me if I'm wrong).
That's bullcrap.

There's no reason why the hall can't act as a storage for minis. Put a mini in, and it gets displayed. Pull a mini out, and it's removed. No need for customization period.

This really kicks mini collectors square in the nether regions. Not only do you have to customize the mini, but you still have to afford the storage on your account for them.

Malthan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Can't you just wait with customizing it untill the lunch of GW2? You will be able to use it untill that time on all chars, then when you will switch to GW2 customize it.

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

Yes to the post above. It should be customized if you add it to your HoM... still you don't have to do that right now or anytime soon. And when you do.. you're going to want all your minipets in one HoM anyway I would think.. instead of spread on on varies ones. I don't collect minipets but if I did (or anything that would go in the HoM) I rather have one pimped out with everything then a bunch of so-so HoM.

FelixCarter

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

I already said this in the HoM thread, but I'll post it here.

The minipets shouldn't be customized in GW1, but they should be made so that others cannot claim them as their own in GW2. This will ensure that the rarity of the mini will still exist, but the ability to sell/buy minis will not vanish completely off the face of GW1.
  • Give Minipet to NPC
  • NPC immortalizes minipet into the HoM
  • Minipet shows a STAR (or something) next to it's name, showing it has been immortalized.
  • Minipet can be sold AND used by others, but cannot be immortalized again.

I believe this would accomplish the goal that ANet is currently trying to make, while making the community happy. But I may be wrong.

Keifru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Meep] Biscuit of Dewm

D/

You could make it so it's immortalized as long as it stays on your account. Were it to be traded/sold/destroyed (?!!?!?!) then you lose it's immortalization.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

customized per account, sure.......

as it is now, it's a flaming turd

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

hhmmmmmmmmmmm all great points...
lets roll the dice

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

I would personally prefer that if the minipets must be customized, that they be account based and not character based. I have several characters I switch between, all of whom I would like to be able to use my minipets depending on the situation (holidays or whatever). I also keep them as an investment. If I fall on really hard times, they're my easy 10k+. That being said, even if they were customized to the account, I would probably not use this feature until I was pretty darn sure I was going to completely switch over to GW2.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
customized per account, sure.......

as it is now, it's a flaming turd
The whole Hall of Monuments is like that. They totally need to rework this steaming pile, agreed.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilderness
I wholeheartedly agree that minis added to HoM should be customized to prevent every player from filling their hall and negating all achievement.. but customization should definitely onehundredpercentwithoutadoubt be TIED TO THE ACCOUNT and NOT TO THE CHARACTER.

I'd imagine this not being a major issue to change (correct me if I'm wrong).
Agreed its simply the logical thing to do.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

i agree with it but it still sucks because you cant get money for it :P In the end it is for the better!

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

I agree that they should be customized to account.

Whichever character puts them into HoM should get credit for the achievement though.

Of course, HoM display should be account based also - while keeping note of which character earned which achievement.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

My opinion: Anet royally screwed the Hall of Monuments up, and they ruined the entire mini pet section. I can understand not wanting people to trade minis to stick in their HoM, but customization was stupid.

How on earth can they try to maintain rarity of mini pets when they add items to GW:EN that completely destroy rarity? >.> GG Anet.

Frostnova

Frostnova

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Paladins of Eternal Truth [POET]

R/

Customized Minipets = NEVERRRRR

For minipets collectors, then yes they will probably one day put it in their HoM but it concerns rarity and the in game economy.

Right now, a Siege Turtle costs around 10k right now (correct me if i'm wrong). To minipets collectors, this would be a great deal for a common minipet. But in the future after everyone finally decides to customize their minipets and cant sell them. For the collectors that dont hav the Siege Turtle they will probably want to find and buy them from people that sells minis. What used to be 10k could be alot more when they demand for them increases due to the lack of them. Just think what it would mean for something like purples like Kirins or Palawa Jokos even rarer golds like Water Djinns or Shiros and even more rare greens, Bone Dragons and Gwens. Those prices will one day skyrocket so i hope ANet truly reconsiders this decision.

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

I like it. The only thing in the dumbass HoM that I do like.

KANE

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by FelixCarter
I already said this in the HoM thread, but I'll post it here.

The minipets shouldn't be customized in GW1, but they should be made so that others cannot claim them as their own in GW2. This will ensure that the rarity of the mini will still exist, but the ability to sell/buy minis will not vanish completely off the face of GW1.
  • Give Minipet to NPC
  • NPC immortalizes minipet into the HoM
  • Minipet shows a STAR (or something) next to it's name, showing it has been immortalized.
  • Minipet can be sold AND used by others, but cannot be immortalized again.

I believe this would accomplish the goal that ANet is currently trying to make, while making the community happy. But I may be wrong.
Actually. I don't prefer customization to the account, I like what Felix is suggesting. But then again, a immortalized minipet is cheaper then a not immortalized mini when trading.

Lord Juan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

The Nights Watch

R/Mo

As someone said, i also think the best idea it's to simply make it act like a minipet storage, you can put them in and out at any time. It will show your minipets, they will be available to do whatever you want to them when you take them out.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Am I to understand that GW2 is going to allow the spawning of all current minis, if they've been placed in a HoM? Has that been confirmed?

I thought filling monuments in HoM was supposed to unlock related, but different bonuses in GW2?

I have to say, that the more I learn about HoM, the more it sucks. I never wanted to see a direct transfer of anything to GW2 and it seems that implementing that (assuming that's what Anet are doing) is turning what should have been some simple loyalty scheme, into a major series of hoops for players to jump through.

The concept of players sharing minis to put in their HoMs wouldn't be a big deal if all we were getting was "something cool to show off" (as quoted from that video). Transfering all current minis (and titles etc) and therefore having to worry about rarity of current items in the *next* game is absolutely crazy.

For god's sake rethink this and keep it simple Anet - or GW2 is going to be brought down by an avalanche GW1 baggage!

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

At this point I could care even less about the hall of monuments. You can tell my thoughts are negative about customizing not just pets but everything

Seissor

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

[oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad

R/Me

its easy. u wanna show off minis in GW? double click them ta da!

Wanna show off minis when GW2 is out and u cease to play GW? THEN customise them. Im not customising mine yet, i like all my toons to have access to them. but when gw2 comes out, if i decide to play it, well by then i will customise my minis.

Farrell-Zander

Farrell-Zander

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Switzerland

I think it should be simular to the festival hat guy.

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

Well I stuffed up
I carry some mini on diff chars and had already added the tapestry shreds
was going around reading all the diff things properly and when I was reading the mini pet one
I clicked next and was reading that mini's get customized
I thought OK fair enough I will add them all to my MAIN char not this one
and went to close the box "cancel"
then I got an err7 and disconnected when I managed to get back to the game
went to my Hom again and there was the Kunny on the shelf that I could see
when the screen loaded.
I NEVER clicked OK to add it now it's stuck on a charr that is not the main
char I was going to add mini's too.
Have sent a support ticket ect about the error.

Hope they can fix it OR do it so it's ACCOUNT based not char based and just have the name of
the charr that added it underneath or something to the Account HOM.
Either way I am not stepping one damn foot in HOM anymore until I get a reply back.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Just make them like hats.
Add an NPC that makes them over and over (Mahk in Kamadan, for example) but by showing them they get customized.

Then any character of the account can use them.

Another way could be adding unlimited sources of ministures, other than the birthdate and events ones.

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilderness
I wholeheartedly agree that minis added to HoM should be customized to prevent every player from filling their hall and negating all achievement.. but customization should definitely onehundredpercentwithoutadoubt be TIED TO THE ACCOUNT and NOT TO THE CHARACTER.
100% Agree

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exiled mat

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by FelixCarter
I already said this in the HoM thread, but I'll post it here.

The minipets shouldn't be customized in GW1, but they should be made so that others cannot claim them as their own in GW2. This will ensure that the rarity of the mini will still exist, but the ability to sell/buy minis will not vanish completely off the face of GW1.
  • Give Minipet to NPC
  • NPC immortalizes minipet into the HoM
  • Minipet shows a STAR (or something) next to it's name, showing it has been immortalized.
  • Minipet can be sold AND used by others, but cannot be immortalized again.

I believe this would accomplish the goal that ANet is currently trying to make, while making the community happy. But I may be wrong.
Best solution for this whole problem

higaru

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/

I always wanted to say i:
ANET, it would be a great idea if we can duplicate the mini pets to use them with other char. same as the festival hats.

Also, a duplicated mini pet should be restricted to the account same as the bonus items, can't be traded, and if u sell the original then all duplicated pets should disapear from the inventory.

could they say funny stuff?

Drake Aran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Genoa

Flowery Dragons [FD]

W/

Minipets should be put in some kind of storage in HoM so that anyone can admire then behind a glass wall ^^'. There's no real need to make 'em customized, and at least not per character!!!

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

They could flag miniatures as "used for the HoM" instead of customising them.
Just put "This miniature has been immortalised in the Hall of Monuments and can't be used for that purpose again!" in bright red letters in the miniatures description.

no customisation -> item can be used by every character on your account and can even be traded to somebody who wants it exclusively for gw1.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I agree with seut. Minipet customization is rubbish.

I woul also prefer an account based Hall of Monuments. Or should I collect several minipet collections for my chars? Where to store them? Does not sound like fun or make sense...

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

I think it is good that they are customised.
Unless they change the whole HoM thing to being account based instead of character based it should be character based as well.

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

I understand the logic behind it. People loaning high-ends to their friends and "renting" high-end minis would probably be a booming market. But since I like to keep my high ends in storage and pull them out on which ever character I choose, I hate the idea of customizing them per char. If they did per account, I'd be okay with that.

Fentarez

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

I didn't got the chance to try out HoM yet, but as far as I see you put them somewhere and they get customized.

So, why don't we make a sort of storage, so when you put your pet in there, it shows up in HoM, when you get it out of there, it doesn't.

Now people can't get them cheaply by borrowing them once, and you can still use them. Also, if you make it just like storage, it acces-able by ever character on the account.

A nice touch would be materialstorage-like screen which has all minipets on there, with little pictures of them. As soon as you put your minipet in there, the picture gets ticked off and your minipet is in the HoM. All account-based.

The Sender

The Sender

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Execution of War [EoW]

Quote:
Originally Posted by FelixCarter
I already said this in the HoM thread, but I'll post it here.

The minipets shouldn't be customized in GW1, but they should be made so that others cannot claim them as their own in GW2. This will ensure that the rarity of the mini will still exist, but the ability to sell/buy minis will not vanish completely off the face of GW1.
  • Give Minipet to NPC
  • NPC immortalizes minipet into the HoM
  • Minipet shows a STAR (or something) next to it's name, showing it has been immortalized.
  • Minipet can be sold AND used by others, but cannot be immortalized again.

I believe this would accomplish the goal that ANet is currently trying to make, while making the community happy. But I may be wrong.
Do this.

The per-character customization is retarded. It means you'll have to get multiple minipets if you want to use that pet on another character or account. ANet didn't think this through, because if this is what they wanted in the first place, they must've been borrowing some of what Sony's hooked on.

Either way, I never intend to customize any minipets until I absolutely need to.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chestnut
Ok, I'll say that if it HAS to be customized.. which I prefer it didn't.. I'm okay with it being customized for the account.. but to customize my panda or Zhed for ONE of my chars?

....
Exactly. Who uses the mini's on just one character?

Quote:
Originally Posted by natuxatu
Yes to the post above. It should be customized if you add it to your HoM... still you don't have to do that right now or anytime soon. And when you do.. you're going to want all your minipets in one HoM anyway I would think.. instead of spread on on varies ones. I don't collect minipets but if I did (or anything that would go in the HoM) I rather have one pimped out with everything then a bunch of so-so HoM.
Maybe customized in GW2 but made so you can save them in the HoM for each character. This is BS that we can't do this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FelixCarter
I already said this in the HoM thread, but I'll post it here.

The minipets shouldn't be customized in GW1, but they should be made so that others cannot claim them as their own in GW2. This will ensure that the rarity of the mini will still exist, but the ability to sell/buy minis will not vanish completely off the face of GW1.
  • Give Minipet to NPC
  • NPC immortalizes minipet into the HoM
  • Minipet shows a STAR (or something) next to it's name, showing it has been immortalized.
  • Minipet can be sold AND used by others, but cannot be immortalized again.

I believe this would accomplish the goal that ANet is currently trying to make, while making the community happy. But I may be wrong.
/signed

joze

joze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer
Actually. I don't prefer customization to the account, I like what Felix is suggesting. But then again, a immortalized minipet is cheaper then a not immortalized mini when trading.
I'm not into GW anymore, but I found this thread very interesting. What you just said is exactly how it would be. The "immortalized" minipets would be worth tons less than the not immortalized minipets - and here's another question of rarity.
People would prefer to NOT put their minipets in the Hall of Monuments and just keep them as they are and sell for ALOT more than what other would get for their (because they've customzied their).

IMO, A-Net hasn't done anything wrong. Customization is a good way to solve this problem.
Either have the pet outside and transfer it between your characters,
or show it off in the HoM, it's a decision you have to make.
You cannot blame A-Net for forcing you to make decisions in the game.

Wolvine

Wolvine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

USA/European Server

HELL

W/

Why dont we as previously stated have a char like the festival hats npc for the minipets that way we have a place to store the minipets and you pay the small sum (like the hats npc) to recieve a duplicate customised to the char wishing one.

That way the minipets would be customised and logged on the the account the same way as the festival hats.

this would give players 2 options

1. a player can sell any pet as normal as long as he has not been to the mini pet npc

2. When a player takes the mini pet to the pet NPC trader that pet automatically becomes customised to the char using the npc and the mini pet becomes unsellable

This way anet are giving player the choice to either sell or store there pets for prosperity

just my 2 cents worth

witchburner

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Lost Little Girls

R/Me

Money Sink....