I just thought about changing my secondary to paragon and changing my build to include the skill "Never Surrender".
I would use it as a self heal and also as goup heal, which would be a cool side effect.
My 2 questions are:
1) Does Never Surrender work on myself as well?
2) Is Never Surrender any good?
PS: My whole build idea is in this thread:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10190647
Is Never Surrender good?
tornadoli
Lorinda
1) Yes it will work on yourself if you meet the below 75 % req.
2) The extra regen of +3/4 is always welcome to relieve the monk a bit. But its not a massive heal.
But the lions Comfort it better for selfheal.
2) The extra regen of +3/4 is always welcome to relieve the monk a bit. But its not a massive heal.
But the lions Comfort it better for selfheal.
Stormlord Alex
In all honesty... Never Surrender! is a pretty pitiful healing skill.
There's much, MUCH better skills to put on a warrior bar.
There's much, MUCH better skills to put on a warrior bar.
tornadoli
Like which ones, Alex?
Stormlord Alex
For your sword bar?
[skill]bull's strike[/skill]
[skill]savage slash[/skill]
[skill]distracting blow[/skill]
[skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill]
[skill]healing signet[/skill]
[skill]lion's comfort[/skill]
[skill]"shields up!"[/skill]
[skill]"go for the eyes!"[/skill]
... to name a few. Never Surrender! is really weak, especially as it's conditional.
[skill]bull's strike[/skill]
[skill]savage slash[/skill]
[skill]distracting blow[/skill]
[skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill]
[skill]healing signet[/skill]
[skill]lion's comfort[/skill]
[skill]"shields up!"[/skill]
[skill]"go for the eyes!"[/skill]
... to name a few. Never Surrender! is really weak, especially as it's conditional.
tornadoli
I want a healing skill, and most of the ones u named, alex, are not healing. So i think never surrender is a good skill, in some points better than heal sig, which needs activation time and lions comfort which also need activate time and needs adrenaline so is only usable in direct combat. So any other suggestions?
Stormlord Alex
You don't need a healing skill.
Stop thinking like a wammo.
Watch Yourself! does more than a heal ever could.
Stop thinking like a wammo.
Watch Yourself! does more than a heal ever could.
Tab
ZB wammo ftw. But if you must have a heal, use Heal Sig.
Elena
lion's comfort you should be hitting stuff anyway
bhavv
Agreed with 'I hate warriors with heals'.
Never surrender is a good skill on a paragon when its at +5 regen. +5 regen across the whole party combined with stand your ground, their on fire, and watch yourself makes the monk jobs a lot easier.
BBut if your a warrior, concentrate on killing things, not on healing.
Lions Comfort is a great self heal though, Heal Sig is pathetic.
Never surrender is a good skill on a paragon when its at +5 regen. +5 regen across the whole party combined with stand your ground, their on fire, and watch yourself makes the monk jobs a lot easier.
BBut if your a warrior, concentrate on killing things, not on healing.
Lions Comfort is a great self heal though, Heal Sig is pathetic.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by bhavv
Never surrender is a good skill on a paragon when its at +5 regen.
Who specs their command to 14?
bhavv
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Who specs their command to 14?
I do on mogahn. He is full command + Leadership XD
Seraphic Divinity
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Who specs their command to 14?
I spec 15 command on Morghan for DoA
To the OP, I would have to agree with most people here in that your focus should be less on healing, and more on damage output, and if you really want to help the team as a whole, bring WY, it's more beneficial to the team.
To the OP, I would have to agree with most people here in that your focus should be less on healing, and more on damage output, and if you really want to help the team as a whole, bring WY, it's more beneficial to the team.
Draginvry
You shouldn't need more than Heal Sig for your warrior. If you find yourself taking that much damage, just replace one of your attacks with another defensive skill. In fact, if you have a good monk in your party, you will rarely have to use any healing at all since the warrior already has so much armor. And as far as:
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And if your argument is that you want to make a fun party build, consider that Watch Yourself is going to be infinitely more usefull to a general party than Never Surrender.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by bhavv
Lions Comfort is a great self heal though, Heal Sig is pathetic.
heal sig isnt that bad...
considering blind/anti-adrenaline will shutdown your lions comfort
considering blind/anti-adrenaline will shutdown your lions comfort
Draginvry
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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
heal sig isnt that bad...
considering blind/anti-adrenaline will shutdown your lions comfort Yeah. Heal Sig may be pathetic, but it is still one of the better utility heals in the game. No energy cost and decent recharge time = win
considering blind/anti-adrenaline will shutdown your lions comfort Yeah. Heal Sig may be pathetic, but it is still one of the better utility heals in the game. No energy cost and decent recharge time = win
Thom Bangalter
There are more useful things you could run to relieve party pressure; namely save yourselves, and enraging/fgj/furious weapon, which allows you to spam SY.
However I'm a pretty big fan of the skill on a gon, as it does a pretty good job at relieving degen pressure from hexes and conditions, which EoTN is full of.
However I'm a pretty big fan of the skill on a gon, as it does a pretty good job at relieving degen pressure from hexes and conditions, which EoTN is full of.
Darkpower Alchemist
[skill=big]"Never Surrender!"[/skill]
I never spec command to 14. 10 is ideal. as can be seen here, it does a great job with this particular skill.
I never spec command to 14. 10 is ideal. as can be seen here, it does a great job with this particular skill.
Marverick
You consider +3 regen a self heal? lol...
that's 90 health in 15 seconds......
Healing Signet gives you 100+ in 2 seconds.
that's 90 health in 15 seconds......
Healing Signet gives you 100+ in 2 seconds.
odly
Never surrender can be good to relieve pressure if the entire team is suffering from degen. It is a team skill; not a self heal. I often take it on my paragon, but he allready has command for other skills. I don't see much else in command that would benefit your warrior enough to warrant speccing command.
bungusmaximus
I just fail to see how +4 regen can help a target if it is spiked to < 75% health. The target is very likely to die anyways imho.
natural sugar
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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus
I just fail to see how +4 regen can help a target if it is spiked to < 75% health. The target is very likely to die anyways imho.
Which is why you would use it to counter degen/AoE. Maybe I missed something, but I don't think anyone in this thread said to use NS to counter a spike.
Splitisoda
Only is good if you have most team under 75% health. Since leadership only gives energy back if it affects people, which in this case it might not.