Paragons suck?

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

I think not....

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Simath

Simath

haha you're dumb

Join Date: Jul 2005

Moscow

Ok. Congratulations.

The point of this thread?

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

To make you ask questions like that, and it worked

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Needs more Aggressive Refrain!

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

This just in: TNTF makes PvE retarded

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Needs more Aggressive Refrain! And Save Yourselves!

Productivity

Productivity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/

Paragons don't suck, PVE players suck (and don't understand how to use Paragons).

VendingMachine

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond
And Say Yourselves! Say what? I say that Paragons are great.

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

I agree, Paragons are very useful in parties. I mean, they're really good support warriors! They help meelee guys, casters, healers... they help everyone. I like to have paragons in my party whenever I can.

The same for Rits, they are also very good supportive toons. People just misunderstand how to utilize them, and rely too heavily on the "standard" builds.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

I spy 2 monks.... all im goingto say is that i have never been partied with a paragon that did anything useful. maybe i have bad luck.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
I spy 2 monks.... all im goingto say is that i have never been partied with a paragon that did anything useful. maybe i have bad luck. Way, way, way too many people ping paragon builds that have very low or zero spear mastery. Paragons aren't monks, they're ranged attackers with party support built in.

Prof Of Black

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

Paragons FTW.
Noobs FTL.

~Prof.

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
Say what? I say that Paragons are great. He was mean to say "save yourself". Y'know that kurzick skill, +100 armor for the rest of the party for 3-6 sec.

SeraCombi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Hiding in a cave in old Ascalon

paragons are statistically the least played class. When released, they were overpowered, and quite useful. Repeated nerfs have rendered them "unneeded".

anet should have left them "overpowered" or "broken" so that they would be chosen as much as a primary profession for teams imo.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SeraCombi
paragons are statistically the least played class. When released, they were overpowered, and quite useful. Repeated nerfs have rendered them "unneeded".

anet should have left them "overpowered" or "broken" so that they would be chosen as much as a primary profession for teams imo. I believe the point of this thread is to show that paragons are just as useful as they always were. The majority of players are just so uneducated to realize that despite all the nerfs, they're still a powerful offensive and defensive character.

And of course, with the introduction of PvE only skills it only got more insane.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SeraCombi
paragons are statistically the least played class. When released, they were overpowered, and quite useful. Repeated nerfs have rendered them "unneeded".

anet should have left them "overpowered" or "broken" so that they would be chosen as much as a primary profession for teams imo. Lol?

TNTF and SY makes them easily the best in PvE. It was paragons that won the fight with Mallyx.

And gg, go do some pvp.

Defensive Anthem ftw.
Spear of Lightning ftw.
Anthem of Flame ftw.

I <3 paragons.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
Say what? I say that Paragons are great. Meant Save Yourselves! I have no idea what I was thinking to make a mistake like that .

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

Mo/

ToPK is doable with any profession and h&h. The focus ought to be on how fast one can do it. And I'm guessing this build doesn't get it done anywhere near as fast as the standard B/P build.

I posted a h&h build a while back that I used to finish ToPK with my para that was a variation of the B/P build and only took about 10-15 mins longer than a fast B/P human team.

With a 3rd para hero available soon you could try going P/R on all 3 and taking a pet and an MM. You should be able to roll stuff with GFTE! spam.

If you're going the slower route then you may as well take a build that can solo the darknesses at the end. Wipe everything around them, flag the hench away and solo the bastards so you get all the greens.

VendingMachine

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond
Meant Save Yourselves! I have no idea what I was thinking to make a mistake like that .
Quote:
Originally Posted by Etta
He was mean to say "save yourself". Y'know that kurzick skill, +100 armor for the rest of the party for 3-6 sec. I know that I was just playing a joke =P

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

I do not approve of the Paragon nerfs. They are a shame on ANet's head!

Even so, my Paragon is among my top three most played characters, Ranger, Paragon, and Warrior ... probably in that order.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SeraCombi
paragons are statistically the least played class. When released, they were overpowered, and quite useful. Repeated nerfs have rendered them "unneeded".

anet should have left them "overpowered" or "broken" so that they would be chosen as much as a primary profession for teams imo. Paragons are like the best at party protection. They can make prot monks and spirit spammer rits look weak

Darkpower Alchemist

Darkpower Alchemist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

NYC

The Circle Of Nine[NINE]

E/N

Paragons, in general, are argueably the greatest support character in GW. My opinion, of course. With TNTF!, GFTE!, AoF,and SY! from the warrior alliance skills-the paragon can keep alot of things from going wrong.

[skill]Aggressive refrain[/skill][skill]Disrupting Throw[/skill][skill]Cruel Spear[/skill] with the 4 shouts, and team life in PvE becomes interesting.

Skill #8 is optional. Res or whatever you like.

Paragons are awesome!

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

Every profession has a role anywhere in the game if the team designs that player into that roll is what matters.