eremites attack vs victorious sweep

Donni Darkblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Grenths Execeutioners

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I see alot of builds that use eremites attack, and was wondering why those builds don't use victorious instead... it has full +damage regardless of how many mobs are around you, and it even heals you if you can keep your own health higher than the targets...

eremites also has a 0.75 cast time, while victorious does not... is this somehow an advantage?

is it because the people making the builds haven't reached the gate of torment? victorious can be capped near kodash bazar, or unlocked with faction and trained at sanctuary...

I keep thinking I must be ignorant to some game mechanic... am I?

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Fast attack is nice, especially for that monster that's almost dead, or if you're the only one hitting a dazed monster. If you run Wearying + Melandru or Reaper's Sweep, Eremite's is a solid choice for "triggering" the Deep Wound.

MrFuzzles

MrFuzzles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Norway

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yes, the 0.75 cast time is pretty much the advantage with eremite's attack.

If you've ever player a ranger, eremite's/mystic is kinda like savage shot. If you use it while your character is attacking normally, the skill will execute almost instantly after the regular attack, effectively making it a double hit.

If you load up on eremite's attack, mystic sweep, and protector's strike (all having this ability) you can spam these double hits out the wazoo, effectively almost doubling your attack speed.

Donni Darkblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Grenths Execeutioners

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:O I see

that's pretty powerful, I ought to go rethink some builds :P

EDIT: almost forgot :P thanks

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

I bring both on my bar usually, Victorious is actually quite nice for the self-heal and guaranteed damage, while Eremite's fast attack is win.

Donni Darkblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Grenths Execeutioners

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the retrhinking comment weas more about dropping chilling victory :P

without that I don't need attackers insight either... enter heart of fury

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Its really not a question about Eremites or Victorious Sweep. Mystic/Eremite's should both pretty much be glued to a Scythe based damage dealers bar. Its a question of Victorious Sweep > whatever your 3rd/4th attack skill is (i like Wild Blow personally). Scythe has such a ridiculously high base damage (especially with Aura of Holy Might) that even using Mystic Sweep with no enchantments on you is actually beneficial.