For Mainly PvE but a bit of PvP also which proffesion is better,
Ranger/Monk or Ranger/Necro
Proffesions
Zenith32
Perfected Shadow
There's a reason you can change your 2nd prof, try both. Although the only use of R/N I see is toucher, which is not that effective in either modes. [skill=text]Mending Touch[/skill] is used a lot on R/Mo, and for PvE you could take hard resurrection skills.
Lyssas
You can't really say that one is better than the other, if your focus is goingto be on the Ranger it doesn't matter as you can change secondary as often as you like.
Ranger/Monk could provide you with skills to keep yourself clean from conditions, for instance Mending Touch, getting rid of that blind can be useful often.
Ranger/Necromancer could provide you with the all too popular touch skills, a few other useful secondary skills, for instance the Plauge skill series to get rid of conditions from yourself.
So none is better than the other, it's simply which fits better with what you want to do.
Ranger/Monk could provide you with skills to keep yourself clean from conditions, for instance Mending Touch, getting rid of that blind can be useful often.
Ranger/Necromancer could provide you with the all too popular touch skills, a few other useful secondary skills, for instance the Plauge skill series to get rid of conditions from yourself.
So none is better than the other, it's simply which fits better with what you want to do.
malko050987
I play Ranger and I haven't seen any uses for R/N. But I REALLY hate touch skills. What's the point of being a Ranger armed with a bow if you're just going to get up in their face? It's much more fun to stay as far away as you can and turn them into pincushions.
Stormlord Alex
Ranger/Monk.
Mending Touch is win.
[skill]mending touch[/skill]
Mending Touch is win.
[skill]mending touch[/skill]
Zenith32
Whats the best and most uncommon proffesion
Etta
Best? None. They all can counter by one another. Uncommon? Mesmer and Paragon, as most people don't how to play them properly.
Zenith32
What goes best with Necromancer or Ranger as primaries?
payne
best secondary for a ranger is probably monk, just makes a nice combo as you can use either a rez skill like rebirth or a heal with condition removal like mending touch
necro best secondary depends what type of bar you wish to run...monk and ritualist are probably my favourites depending on what type of necro it is!
necro best secondary depends what type of bar you wish to run...monk and ritualist are probably my favourites depending on what type of necro it is!
Zenith32
Is Ranger/Monk really Common, i dont like being a common character
payne
if you want something rather uncommon in PvE go ranger / assassin or something stupid xD
ranger / monk is common because it works so well...no point denying trends if they work and are effective!
ranger / monk is common because it works so well...no point denying trends if they work and are effective!
Zenith32
Can Rangers only use bows or do they get to usae swords or sumthing aswell?
payne
you can use any weapon no matter what profession you choose...might not be as effective as a warrior using a sword but you could still use it..for best effect have warrior as 2nd profession and put some points into swordsmanship rather then marksmanship
people generally prefer hammer and sometimes axes over swords as a melee weapon alternative to the bow
also scythes work sometimes, rarely used in PvE but does occasionally work depends on what you want to do!
people generally prefer hammer and sometimes axes over swords as a melee weapon alternative to the bow
also scythes work sometimes, rarely used in PvE but does occasionally work depends on what you want to do!
Zenith32
i really cant decide wat profession i want = (
i like Rangers And Necros the most and i dotn really want 2 chars.
i like Rangers And Necros the most and i dotn really want 2 chars.
payne
best thing to do is create both...play through some missions or quests and see which you prefer then either shelf or delete the one you don't like!
Zenith32
So Best with Ranger is Monk and Best with Necro is....?
Tutis Evito
guys guys guys....blimey
R/N can be an effective PvE'er if you go down the curses line ... for sinstance MoP + Barrage can be very effective.
Though R/Mo is very common, there are others out there... R/E is very effective for a high damage fire ranger... or you could go with a R/Rt and use splinter weapon...
when i first started out as a ranger i was a r/mo, but rarely used my monk skills, i went through a few secondry professions... r/mo, r/a,r/n,r/w ...currently im using a r/e as a glass arrow fire ranger for spiking and a r/ whatever for the popular BHA
R/N can be an effective PvE'er if you go down the curses line ... for sinstance MoP + Barrage can be very effective.
Though R/Mo is very common, there are others out there... R/E is very effective for a high damage fire ranger... or you could go with a R/Rt and use splinter weapon...
when i first started out as a ranger i was a r/mo, but rarely used my monk skills, i went through a few secondry professions... r/mo, r/a,r/n,r/w ...currently im using a r/e as a glass arrow fire ranger for spiking and a r/ whatever for the popular BHA
Zenith32
So Best with Ranger is Monk and Best with Necro is....?
payne
for necros the top 2ndaries are probably monk or ritualist as posted in an above post somewere :P
if you are a minion master necro then monk is good to keep them alive (kareis healing circle, one non-necro option for keeping your minion army alive)
flesh of my flesh is a nice option if you have ritualist as your necros 2ndary profession!
I found if you are running glass arrow it is best to be r/rt with splinter weapon included in that bar for wide spread bleeding etc.
all 2ndary professions have up and down points!
/monk is popular just because the skills of rangers and monk styles can work very well together!
/ele if you would like to do fire / water / earth / air based damage with your arrows
etc...all are good some are just alot better then others!
if you are a minion master necro then monk is good to keep them alive (kareis healing circle, one non-necro option for keeping your minion army alive)
flesh of my flesh is a nice option if you have ritualist as your necros 2ndary profession!
I found if you are running glass arrow it is best to be r/rt with splinter weapon included in that bar for wide spread bleeding etc.
all 2ndary professions have up and down points!
/monk is popular just because the skills of rangers and monk styles can work very well together!
/ele if you would like to do fire / water / earth / air based damage with your arrows
etc...all are good some are just alot better then others!
malko050987
Necro/Monk works very well from what's I've seen. But then, my only necro toon only got as far as level 10 before being shelved.
Zenith32
thanx but know im even more confused, I think i want ranger as primary but im still stuck for secondary and if it costs to change secondary i dont wanna lose loads of money, Elementalist sounds good but so does monk!
Tutis Evito
best with ranger is NOT neccassrily a monk.
monk is good to go with necro if you're going to be a MM
monk is good to go with necro if you're going to be a MM
payne
it only costs 500g to change your 2ndary profession but you cant do that till a roughly just over half way through the game were you should have a decent stack on money! (pends on game, you can change your 2ndary profession at about 1/4 through NightFall and Factions bout 1/2 way through Prophecies...but you should have enough money to change your 2ndary quite easily...without busting yourself!
the /ele bar that is good takes time to aquire the skills...depending on which bar you run
/monk is probably the better option for a newbie as you can put together a good bar at an early stage of the game...
the /ele bar that is good takes time to aquire the skills...depending on which bar you run
/monk is probably the better option for a newbie as you can put together a good bar at an early stage of the game...
Tutis Evito
I agree with payne.... as a new toon a r/mo is proably the most pratical, either that or r/rt
Zenith32
thanx but know im even more confused, I think i want ranger as primary but im still stuck for secondary and if it costs to change secondary i dont wanna lose loads of money, Elementalist sounds good but so does monk!
Tutis Evito
By the time you can chnage your secondry it will cost peanuts. dont worry at all about that
Zenith32
Well seeing as i can be ritualist that leaves R/E or R/Mo i hate 50 - 50 choices
payne
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Originally Posted by Zenith32
if it costs to change secondary i dont wanna lose loads of money!
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Tutis Evito
You will probaly end up wanting to chnage your secondry proff anyway to different builds for different situations. You will rarely keep the same 2ndry throughout the whole campaign...
Furthermore...once you';ve chnaged proff. you can swiutch back and forth free
Furthermore...once you';ve chnaged proff. you can swiutch back and forth free
tmakinen
I think that the issue of 'best' ranger secondary is moot. Because ranger is the jack of all trades a pure ranger build is completely feasible. By the time when you get far enough in the game that you can change your secondary the cost of doing so is negligible (Factions and NF one-time fee of 500g and in Prophecies free!) and you should have a better idea about your preferred playstyle and you can then try all the different secondaries to find the one that complements your build. I can't think of a single secondary that wouldn't make any sense for a ranger with a suitable build.
Zenith32
well i like doing lots of damage. but im not a solo player so i want to be a char that is good in a group
payne
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Well seeing as i cant be ritualist that leaves R/E or R/Mo i hate 50 - 50 choices
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the bars can be put together easily...with very little travel required through the game to get the decent skills!
the reason r/mo is so common is because it does work so well!
/e does require a certain amount of skills, some of which to aquire you need to do some traveling through the game so if you want to put a good bar together quickly go r/mo
R/MO is the way forwards...technically rangers don't need a 2ndary profession! they can run great bars without 2ndary skills!
as you have to have a 2ndary you may as well have monk as it...just for the reusably "rez"
payne
r/mo is probably the better option if you do not want to play on your own, as if your group gets wiped except you, the reusable "rez" can get your whole team back up...if you had a one time rez and everyone in your party has used theirs!
then you are practically req. to do the rest of the mission with only two people..either that or /resign and start again from scratch!
then you are practically req. to do the rest of the mission with only two people..either that or /resign and start again from scratch!
Zenith32
wat is bars??? u keep saying it and how do i know which points to put on attributes
payne
bar = skill bar (the skills you use)
attributes are assigned dependent on which skills you have
i.e. barrage is a marksmanship skill so you would put points into marksmanship to make it a more effective skill.
check out www.guildwiki.org
helps with everything you will need to know...including guides for newbies for each game and how to get started!
attributes are assigned dependent on which skills you have
i.e. barrage is a marksmanship skill so you would put points into marksmanship to make it a more effective skill.
check out www.guildwiki.org
helps with everything you will need to know...including guides for newbies for each game and how to get started!
Tutis Evito
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well i like doing lots of damage. but im not a solo player so i want to be a char that is good in a group
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If you want high hitting then R/E is good....though as a new toon id would go as r/mo
Etta
Zen, go with R/Mo for now, you're new at this, learn the basic of the game first. You cant be the best right away, it wont matter anyway what your build or class you pick, untill you're lv 20.
Just start playing the game for now.
Just start playing the game for now.
Zenith32
thanx every1 for ur help, hopefully wen i start ill try and contact u, its good to have frends from the start =)
Squishy ftw
As long as you dont use R/Mo with Monk part to use mending it's all fine by me 