GW has to run in Windows. (AFAIK)
If it's a newer Intel based Mac, you can run Windows XP or Vista natively via Bootcamp. GW runs just fine that way.
Or you can use aa app like "Crossover" (as Faure mentioned). I'm not sure what the performance is like in that case, but probably still good.
If it's an older Mac, or you don't want to spring for Windows, you can run GW under a Windows emulator, but the performance will suck.
Official GW and Mac thread
Quaker
germanturkey
yeah, i'm running it on xp via bootcamp. 2.16ghz, 2gb ram, 950GMA. and i get 30fps, sometimes 60. my friend tried it on crossover, but it ran at like 10fps. so i wouldn't bother with that.
Ġ ō Đ??
or are there any emulators or something that can allow GW to run on a mac?
zelgadissan
I don't know why it wouldn't run if you dual booted with Windows.
Elder III
use search
I think there was a thread on that with some good info for you
that's all I'll say - I turned my backs on Macs 10 years ago
I think there was a thread on that with some good info for you
that's all I'll say - I turned my backs on Macs 10 years ago
Luminarus
Think this has been answered before, and dont see why not. I thought it was possible to dwnload a version of gw that works on macs but i could be wrong.
theshanman0609
get bootcamp. im on my mac and running guildwars as we speak. runs perfectly even on highest graphics settings, and im only on the 2.4gig macbook (NOT macbook pro*)
100$ for windows xp installation disk was worth every penny
100$ for windows xp installation disk was worth every penny
Vaal 84
Chaps,
I am not the most technically minded, hence my need for one you lot answer this question.
I have recently moved into a small place with my girlfriend. While that is a good thing it has had a negative impact on gaming. Apparently a 24 year old should be spending his time on something more productive...
Anyway I have a PC desktop that apparently will not suit are flat (no I’m not kidding its too big, monitor isn’t pretty enough etc…). I was going to upgrade my PC anyway and the fact that I now need to justify using up space in our flat I’ve decided to get a laptop.
Firstly how will guildwars play, look and feel on a laptop? And can you recommend anything?
Secondly I’ve seen that the new Mac laptops that have come out have much better graphics cards. It is also my understanding that you can install windows on a Mac. Therefore would I be able to run guildwars well on one of the new macs?
Thanks in advance
Vaal
I am not the most technically minded, hence my need for one you lot answer this question.
I have recently moved into a small place with my girlfriend. While that is a good thing it has had a negative impact on gaming. Apparently a 24 year old should be spending his time on something more productive...
Anyway I have a PC desktop that apparently will not suit are flat (no I’m not kidding its too big, monitor isn’t pretty enough etc…). I was going to upgrade my PC anyway and the fact that I now need to justify using up space in our flat I’ve decided to get a laptop.
Firstly how will guildwars play, look and feel on a laptop? And can you recommend anything?
Secondly I’ve seen that the new Mac laptops that have come out have much better graphics cards. It is also my understanding that you can install windows on a Mac. Therefore would I be able to run guildwars well on one of the new macs?
Thanks in advance
Vaal
moriz
how well GW runs on a laptop depends almost entirely on the laptop graphic chip, as well as the screen resolution of the laptop screen. if you want to have a comprehensive list of laptop graphics, go here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Compari...rds.130.0.html
that site lists just about every laptop graphic solutions available. just check the device you are considering on that list and compare them.
and yes, the new macbook pro does have a pretty decent graphic chip and will be able to run GW just fine if you install windows. their screen resolution is limited to 1440x900, which is just about the limit of the geforce 9600M GT that's on them.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Compari...rds.130.0.html
that site lists just about every laptop graphic solutions available. just check the device you are considering on that list and compare them.
and yes, the new macbook pro does have a pretty decent graphic chip and will be able to run GW just fine if you install windows. their screen resolution is limited to 1440x900, which is just about the limit of the geforce 9600M GT that's on them.
Malice Black
I know nothing of macs, so I'll leave that to someone else.
GW on a laptop is fine as long as you get a decent-ish GPU. Nothing less then a 8400 is advisable. An 8400 can run GW with just about everything maxed out. Now if you inted on playing new games, you really need to look at getting an 8700 or higher for a 17" or a 8600 for a 15".
CPU plays it part too, nothing less then a Core 2 Duo @ 2GHz, ideally 2.5 and above.
15" - [email protected]+, 2GB RAM, 8400+, choice of OS, 100gb+ HDD, ideally 1440x900 res
17" - [email protected]+, 2GB RAM, 8700+, choice of OS, 100gb+ HDD, ideally 1680x1050 res
GW will run on much lower specs, but the ones I listed above would see you get reasonable performance from most games for another year. High end visual games like Crysis etc won't run on these very well/at all. You'll need to spend a few thousand to get a proper gaming notebook.
The new 9xxx series is out, but they're not that much of a step up from the 8xxx series.
GW on a laptop is fine as long as you get a decent-ish GPU. Nothing less then a 8400 is advisable. An 8400 can run GW with just about everything maxed out. Now if you inted on playing new games, you really need to look at getting an 8700 or higher for a 17" or a 8600 for a 15".
CPU plays it part too, nothing less then a Core 2 Duo @ 2GHz, ideally 2.5 and above.
15" - [email protected]+, 2GB RAM, 8400+, choice of OS, 100gb+ HDD, ideally 1440x900 res
17" - [email protected]+, 2GB RAM, 8700+, choice of OS, 100gb+ HDD, ideally 1680x1050 res
GW will run on much lower specs, but the ones I listed above would see you get reasonable performance from most games for another year. High end visual games like Crysis etc won't run on these very well/at all. You'll need to spend a few thousand to get a proper gaming notebook.
The new 9xxx series is out, but they're not that much of a step up from the 8xxx series.
Oban
You will be able to run GW on them, you can install Windows thanks to Boot Camp, having a native windows installation.
I have my guild leader normally playing GW on her 15" Dell laptop, which can be compared with Macs for hardware specs, never told me about any particular issue, maybe you can have some problems if you go with a 13" Macbook, not with the resolution but mainly with the size of the screen..
I have my guild leader normally playing GW on her 15" Dell laptop, which can be compared with Macs for hardware specs, never told me about any particular issue, maybe you can have some problems if you go with a 13" Macbook, not with the resolution but mainly with the size of the screen..
Aldawg Thanes
I have always played GW on my laptop and have never had a problem. My desktop is very old and does not have a good monitor at all, so I find it better to play on my laptop. Here are the specs for my laptop:
Latitude D820 Intel® Core™ Duo T2400 (1.83GHz) 667Mhz Dual Core
LCDs 15.4 inch Wide Screen WUXGA LCD Panel
Memory 3.0GB, DDR2-667 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Graphics 512MB NVIDIA® Quadro NVS 120M TurboCache™
Hard Drives
60GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 7200RPM
Operating Systems Genuine Windows® XP Professional, SP2, with media
Module Bay Devices 8X DVD+/-RW
I have the resolution set to 1920x1200 which is the highest setting and I have never had a problem with GW running slow (other than occasionally the common lag which everyone experiences from time to time).
As my screen is a 15.4 in, the 1920x1200 resolution is great, I am able to fit everything on my screen at the same time while still having ample room to see what is going on. The laptop is now 2 1/2 years old, but it is still working great.
Also I should mention that I have the graphics settings at almost the highest settings, but my comp cannot handle the anti-aliasing, so that is turned off. I also have the sound quality sett nearly as low as it can go, seeing as how I rarely listen to the game. (I try to still keep up a conversation with my wife while playing, so that I am not totally excluding her from my life)
I hope this helps, if you have any other questions about playing on a laptop, feel free to pm me.
Latitude D820 Intel® Core™ Duo T2400 (1.83GHz) 667Mhz Dual Core
LCDs 15.4 inch Wide Screen WUXGA LCD Panel
Memory 3.0GB, DDR2-667 SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Graphics 512MB NVIDIA® Quadro NVS 120M TurboCache™
Hard Drives
60GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 7200RPM
Operating Systems Genuine Windows® XP Professional, SP2, with media
Module Bay Devices 8X DVD+/-RW
I have the resolution set to 1920x1200 which is the highest setting and I have never had a problem with GW running slow (other than occasionally the common lag which everyone experiences from time to time).
As my screen is a 15.4 in, the 1920x1200 resolution is great, I am able to fit everything on my screen at the same time while still having ample room to see what is going on. The laptop is now 2 1/2 years old, but it is still working great.
Also I should mention that I have the graphics settings at almost the highest settings, but my comp cannot handle the anti-aliasing, so that is turned off. I also have the sound quality sett nearly as low as it can go, seeing as how I rarely listen to the game. (I try to still keep up a conversation with my wife while playing, so that I am not totally excluding her from my life)
I hope this helps, if you have any other questions about playing on a laptop, feel free to pm me.
moriz
that's a really high resolution for that graphic chip to push. if my research is correct, it's essentially a geforce 7400go, which is a pretty slow chip overall.
Malice Black
I was thinking that. Lower your rez, you'll get better results.
moriz
i don't know if bootcamp allows you to completely erase mac osx or not. if that's possible, i would just completely wipe mac osx and just install win xp.
TheJokersWild
Crossover Games!!!
I play GW through Mac OS X daily. Works great.
Macbook Pro 2.4Ghz, 8600GT. (Last year's model)
I play GW through Mac OS X daily. Works great.
Macbook Pro 2.4Ghz, 8600GT. (Last year's model)
Quaker
The bottom line is that Macs are pricey compared to most Windows laptops of comparable specs, although there are lots of pricey Windows laptops too. If you mostly do gaming, you could get a lot better performance for the money. (And get two buttons on the touchpad. )
)
italienaren
there are other emulators beside virtual pc that maybe works better like wmware and crossover ?
Anyway they have been around worked long before virtualpc.
Has anyone tried them with max os x and guildwars ?
Of course with a new intel mac guildwars works fine if u install windows xp on the mac but sometimes u do not want to reboot but u want to stay in the mac enviroment for safety or to avoid windows crashes or...
Anyway they have been around worked long before virtualpc.
Has anyone tried them with max os x and guildwars ?
Of course with a new intel mac guildwars works fine if u install windows xp on the mac but sometimes u do not want to reboot but u want to stay in the mac enviroment for safety or to avoid windows crashes or...
jimmyboveto
No offense, but this sounds a lot like a feeble attempt at that website trying to advertise
mcosad
So I bought a mac for university and worked out all the vmware and windows xp sp2 crapola.
I have a black macbook, 2 gigs of ram and 160 gig hard drive, intel processor, but I think it has a shoddy graphics card, because when i run guild wars it's unplayable. And i checked my internet connection, it's not a lag problem or ping.
Running vmware you have to use their graphics accelerator which, correct me if i'm wrong, isn't the same as using your own. For this reason, i was wondering if if should buy the newest mac OS (which comes with boot camp)? Would running windows straight, and not in parallel, improve graphics?
Thanks for your help
I have a black macbook, 2 gigs of ram and 160 gig hard drive, intel processor, but I think it has a shoddy graphics card, because when i run guild wars it's unplayable. And i checked my internet connection, it's not a lag problem or ping.
Running vmware you have to use their graphics accelerator which, correct me if i'm wrong, isn't the same as using your own. For this reason, i was wondering if if should buy the newest mac OS (which comes with boot camp)? Would running windows straight, and not in parallel, improve graphics?
Thanks for your help
TheJokersWild
How recent is that Mac? If it's a Brand New Macbook, they no longer use the Intel GMA vid cards (good thing for gamers). If it's an older one then it's a bit more harsh.
Either way, Parallels, and VMware Fusion Emulate the video card, you were correct there. So then it's unsupported and barely playable. If you installed 10.5, you would indeed get BootCamp, and could run straight in Windows. Yes GW would work, and be mostly playable but you'd be running without the wonderful Mac OS you've come to know and love. :P
What I recommend (and I actually DO use it) is Crossover Games. Runs GW to near perfection, and it uses your real hardware, as opposed to VMware and Parallels emulation method. It's basically Wine in a nice package if you know what Wine is.
Either way, Parallels, and VMware Fusion Emulate the video card, you were correct there. So then it's unsupported and barely playable. If you installed 10.5, you would indeed get BootCamp, and could run straight in Windows. Yes GW would work, and be mostly playable but you'd be running without the wonderful Mac OS you've come to know and love. :P
What I recommend (and I actually DO use it) is Crossover Games. Runs GW to near perfection, and it uses your real hardware, as opposed to VMware and Parallels emulation method. It's basically Wine in a nice package if you know what Wine is.
mcosad
Wonderful advice, thank you. Do i have to buy this?
TheJokersWild
Crossover Games, like VMWare, and Parallels, is a "pay to use", but they all offer a Demo. So you can try out Crossover Games to make sure it WILL support your hardware before proceeding with a purchase.
I don't quite remember the Demo details, but it's also possible you might be able to enter a sort of "Demo Loop" whereby using it for the Demo time, and simply "renewing" your demo time. For the ability to play Guild Wars, Steam Games, and a plethora of other previously "Windows Only" applications, It was worth the purchase to me. So I didn't stay on Demo too long.
They used to offer a deal where if you bought Crossover Pro, you got it PLUS Games edition. Apps like M$ Office and Visual Studios run better in Pro than in Games. Something else to consider.
I don't quite remember the Demo details, but it's also possible you might be able to enter a sort of "Demo Loop" whereby using it for the Demo time, and simply "renewing" your demo time. For the ability to play Guild Wars, Steam Games, and a plethora of other previously "Windows Only" applications, It was worth the purchase to me.
So I didn't stay on Demo too long.They used to offer a deal where if you bought Crossover Pro, you got it PLUS Games edition. Apps like M$ Office and Visual Studios run better in Pro than in Games. Something else to consider.
mcosad
Next problem: I think i have an insufficient graphics card: I got the game running and it was acceptable, but then I changed it to a smaller window to check the web (note there was still a window open). The window kept shimmying to the right across the screen, and refused to maximise. I eventually gave up and let it exit the screen stage right. Now when i run the game, the music starts, but the window's gone! Help!
As of now, i've rebooted the bottle, restarted the game, the laptop, and crossover. I don't think restarting's going to fix it, and i'm not that good with this software. Any advice is appreciated.
As of now, i've rebooted the bottle, restarted the game, the laptop, and crossover. I don't think restarting's going to fix it, and i'm not that good with this software. Any advice is appreciated.
TheJokersWild
I'd recommend you hit the Codeweavers' website for more info on the matter.
They're pretty good with sorting out the errors with their system. Often it's something that can be solved with a few switches on the app, or a setting in Crossover itself.
Since the game runs off DirectX, it can't really "Maximize" itself to full screen, so you're stuck with permanent Windowed mode. Just a note.
Codeweaver's website, specifically the GW Forum is
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibi...d=1658;forum=1
They're pretty good with sorting out the errors with their system. Often it's something that can be solved with a few switches on the app, or a setting in Crossover itself.
Since the game runs off DirectX, it can't really "Maximize" itself to full screen, so you're stuck with permanent Windowed mode. Just a note.
Codeweaver's website, specifically the GW Forum is
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibi...d=1658;forum=1
Kindeller
I can confirm you can run GW very smoothly on mac, when i got my macbook last summer the first thing i wanted to try on it was GW. Only to find out it apparently "was not possible" (forum members) I ignored them and continued in my search. I found crossover games after a quick search and within a few hours of finding it had guild wars up and running. I've played it for months now, there is a way to get it for shall we say a reduced price anyone who's interested can send me an e-mail and i'll sort you out.
Otherwise it's saved alot of time and space on my other computer, i just wish It worked so fluent with other programs. It just so happens that they worked with the game especially.. To get another one thats not already on they're list of games to work is a real good luck.
~Kind
Otherwise it's saved alot of time and space on my other computer, i just wish It worked so fluent with other programs. It just so happens that they worked with the game especially.. To get another one thats not already on they're list of games to work is a real good luck.
~Kind
Snype
has anyone had any trouble playing gw through crossover games because of the command+w shortcut? Its annoying to be walking and then have your window closed out of no where. Anyone know how to alter the shortcut?
Kattar
I have run into this. Bugs the crap out of me as well. Only solution I've found is to be very careful when running. I'll do a little more research though.
nightfall_adict
I'm a mac user and I play GW on boot camp! you have to buy the PC operating system, but it works awesomely
tenetke
Quote:
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I think there are still active contributors to the Darwine OS X binaries. A google search should give you the information on it. Not sure if it is updated as often as Wine, it may not be updated at all anymore. The latest update on SF is listed as July of 2007, supposed to be a working version of wine at that time. If it is then you shouldn't have any problems running GW. http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ is probably your closest call for a more up to date version. No idea how it works though using linux myself.
If it is based on the newest version of Wine then you won't have any problems. Currently I run GW at max settings with a min of 30 fps under wine 1.1x.
Quaker
Personally, I'd say that running WinXP using Bootcamp is the best solution. Anything else involves some sort of emulation and/or compromise. I know that many Mac owners have some sort of a anti-windows mind-set, but the reality is that the new iMacs hardware is essentially the same as a PC - OSX is the OS not the hardware. Regardless of how you feel about Windows, you only need it to play games, and using some sort of Windows wannabe like Wine is still not really running GW in OSX anyway.
DuroMentis
Hehe, looks like there's a bad case of noob in the air and most of the people here are getting infected. Just kidding. Before someone decides to bash me for bringing up a potentially dead thread, I am writing this only because there are still a few Guild Wars players desperate to play on Mac. There is a program which I have used and had success with. It's called Cider, and it works on Mac Os X without the need to switch to Windows via Bootcamp. I can also confirm that Guild Wars has worked for me and I am running on a Mac Mini Intel Core Duo 1.83Ghz with 2GB of RAM. How you choose to obtain this program is up to you, but I can tell you that it has worked for me.
Oh for you children out there who say PCs are better, I'll believe that when I get a BSOD. XD
Hope this helps.
Oh for you children out there who say PCs are better, I'll believe that when I get a BSOD. XD
Hope this helps.
Quaker
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Originally Posted by DuroMentis
Oh for you children out there who say PCs are better, I'll believe that when I get a BSOD. XD
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So, for you children out there, don't let the hype generated by some TV commercials fool you. It's not PC vs Mac - it's Windows vs OSX.
I doubt that the hardware in a Mac is really any better than the hardware in any quality PC. (Can you say "nVidia failure".
)Ps. - if you want to annoy your Mac using buddies, be sure to call it OS "ex", not OS "ten".
P.p.s. I have no problems with Macs vs PCs - my son runs a Macbook, which, other than the goofy things he has to do to "right-click", seems to be a good machine. I just don't like misinformation and hype created by commercials, or other means.
mac guy
Try cross over from code weavers. the game version works the best. the other option is to get vitual box An open source vm that will allow you to run windows. cross over is the fastest although there seems to be a few bugs and it does not work with every thing.
Master Zoa
Okay i just a pretty powerful MacBook Pro, but i would like to install Guild Wars onto it. I was reading the posts that this thread opened with and it said it could not happen, but it has been two years since then. So is there anything i can do to run it?
rick1027
there is a linux thread around here somewhere that should help you better then this one there area few ways to run guild wars under and one being wine crossover which is a pay per month program i believe not 100% on that though and im thinking there is another way. i at one time had guild wars running on linux with the help of wine but dont recall all i had to do to get it running
moriz
there are two main ways to do this:
1) install windows XP/Vista/7 using Bootcamp, which essentially turns your MBP into a normal windows based laptop, set up all the drivers and updates, then install GW. that will get the maximum performance for your hardware
2) install Wine/Crossover/Cider/whatever-derivative-of-Wine-you-can-think-of, install GW, and cross your fingers.
1) install windows XP/Vista/7 using Bootcamp, which essentially turns your MBP into a normal windows based laptop, set up all the drivers and updates, then install GW. that will get the maximum performance for your hardware
2) install Wine/Crossover/Cider/whatever-derivative-of-Wine-you-can-think-of, install GW, and cross your fingers.
Tarun
Or 3. Buy a real gaming computer that runs Windows and you can upgrade easily if need be. :P
aubray1741
I've had great success dual-booting OS X and Windows on a MacBook and playing Guild Wars. You can use Bootcamp, but I'm ninja at Disk Utility and dual-booted manually. The bootloader on Macs is pretty amazing, it just works when you have multiple partitions, and it fools Windows into thinking it's the first partition.