Why, o why is Gwen a mesmer?
Coloneh
Why did Anet make the Gwen hero a mesmer? I wanted to use her, not have her gather dust.
plasmasword
Hench and Hero interrupts are godly :>
bloodvayne
lrn2rspctmesmersplz
Enko
hmm i always bring a mesmer in my teams. helps out a lot in some battles.
Yichi
because in the origional lore of Guildwars: Prophecies, she was studying to be a mesmer like Althea was.
Arkantos
Someone had to be a mesmer. I really don't care tbh.
artay
Who says she has to collect dust. Mesmers are wtfpwnftw.
What is this, early 2006?
What is this, early 2006?
vaxmor
who needs interrupts or armour ignoring DoT or warrior and caster shutdown? All we need is the holy trinity - W/MO mending, E/ME double echo nuker, MO/W Healing Party.
Rhys
"Profession: N/Me", mesmers eat necros for breakfast. xD
Hammerhil
If you did pre-searing you would remember talking about how she wants to grow up to be a mesmer because she likes the pretty clothes. I would guess that's why she is a mez.
TechnoSword
Just beacuse shes gwen I started to take her with me and I am glad I did, she interrupts like no other, and she dominates every battle i fight in. Inspirational really, and I have no other puns I can think of.
Coloneh
still pissed. tmesmers suck at PvE. theres no place in my party for a character just because she has pretty clothes.
artay
Isnt that why you have norgu in your party?
bloodvayne
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
mesmers suck at PvE.
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Buster
Because she wanted to be like Lady Althea but hey you can still use her has a fast casting nuker or air spike 
Exoudeous
Gwen pwnd the Remnant of Antiquities in the Sepulchre of Dragrimmar.
if you dont think they are usefull then you must not know anything about mesmers
if you dont think they are usefull then you must not know anything about mesmers
Age
Gwen was originally a Monk as you could take her anywhere and she would heal you up.I guess after the searing she decided to become a Mesmer.
It could be a way to promote the use of Mesmers in PvE.
It could be a way to promote the use of Mesmers in PvE.
MMSDome
your right mesmers are totally useless why have mesmer heros.
Melkorium
Bah, more pointless and out-dated mesmer hate. Hopefully Gwen's high profile will force people to realise mesmers r0x in PvE too. If they don't my mesmer vanquisher will eat his mask.
artay
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
your right mesmers are totally useless why have mesmer heros.
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*watches Gaile use Magic Missile*
...nice
prism2525
i wanted her to be an ele QQ
Spontaneous Combustion Ftw!!!
(PS: I know that was just the finale for the beta, but still it would bring back memories
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PPS: Oh yeah! just slap the sig of illusions on her and gg ^^ now she can be *any* profession!
Spontaneous Combustion Ftw!!!
(PS: I know that was just the finale for the beta, but still it would bring back memories
)PPS: Oh yeah! just slap the sig of illusions on her and gg ^^ now she can be *any* profession!
Torino Cowell
mesmers can be very good and i dont really mind what profession she is.
"When I grow up, I'm going to be a hero like my daddy. I'd like to be a warrior, but the mesmers' outfits are nicer, don't you think?"
that was a quote she made in pre seering .
"When I grow up, I'm going to be a hero like my daddy. I'd like to be a warrior, but the mesmers' outfits are nicer, don't you think?"
that was a quote she made in pre seering .
Coloneh
sounds like she wanted to be a warrior. that would be nice. a class that has an advantage as a primary is always nice.
CHunterX
I always found that, although Heroes could interrupt a spell with .5 second skill, I would often open my little hero skill panel mid-fight to see that my Ranger Hero was sitting at mostly full energy, all interrupts charged, and not doing a damn thing to stop the mobs from casting.
My Mesmer, Curses Necro, and Ranger heroes were never too... smart... on using their their full skillbar. I still use Norgu for interrupts and degen, but lets face it, E-Denial doesn't affect monsters, and unless you have the Hero lock target on the mob by him/herself, once you yourself target the mob, all the heroes and henchmen will focus fire on it and "shutting it down" will be mighty pointless for the 4 seconds it will be alive.
I too was a little disappointed in her being a Mesmer, and a little surprised, since she was healing me back in 2005 Pre-Searing. But she will see more party time than Norgu ever did.
My Mesmer, Curses Necro, and Ranger heroes were never too... smart... on using their their full skillbar. I still use Norgu for interrupts and degen, but lets face it, E-Denial doesn't affect monsters, and unless you have the Hero lock target on the mob by him/herself, once you yourself target the mob, all the heroes and henchmen will focus fire on it and "shutting it down" will be mighty pointless for the 4 seconds it will be alive.
I too was a little disappointed in her being a Mesmer, and a little surprised, since she was healing me back in 2005 Pre-Searing. But she will see more party time than Norgu ever did.
Patrick Smit
Lock mesmers on one target, call party on other target, easy to do, i often did when i still used Norgu. Same for rangers, never had problems with them running interupts. Appearantly D-shot fires at 0.25 seconds and has a 0.25 after"cast". I'm not a 100% sure on this, as I didnt use timers on it, but many reliable sources claim so.
wilderness
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
a class that has an advantage as a primary is always nice.
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Terra Xin
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
still pissed. tmesmers suck at PvE. theres no place in my party for a character just because she has pretty clothes.
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wilderness
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Originally Posted by Terra Xin
It's not the Mesmer darling, it's the player.
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Terra Xin
Sorry... :S
Mesmers get so much slack, that's really all you need to say Anything more and you're just trying to prove against people who refuse to have interaction with Mesmers, that they are worth bringing into a party, when experience says that you don't need to 'prove' anything. *breathes*
Mesmers get so much slack, that's really all you need to say
Etta
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Originally Posted by wilderness
I would quote this for emphasis, but is there any point...
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Coloneh
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Originally Posted by wilderness
Fast Cast Ftl?
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Im not talking about PVP here people. PvE is where damage counts, not shutdown.
tmakinen
Well, if you feel that your heroes are not picking the optimal target, there's this little cross-hair thingy in their skill bar that you can use to gently nudge them to the right direction ... it's usually easiest to do that before the brawl begins, just tab through the mob to see what's in there then assign each hero a priority target.
A very simple setup is to have one warrior hate necro and one caster hate mesmer hero, and lock a target when something has to be subdued while the rest of the party does something else. This is not necessary in most situations but extremely valuable in others. I recently H+H'd Abaddon's Mouth HM (with bonus, of course) with a curses MoW and mixed dom/illusion Norgu and the pairs of bosses didn't pose any challenge at all, being well and thoroughly emasculated by the heroes.
If you don't have enough mesmer skills unlocked (or enough experience to come up with a decent build - mesmer is the most specific of all professions and optimally you should cook up a different build for each situation) then mesmer heroes are indeed pretty weak, and a BHA ranger may be a better choice.
Now that Gwen is a mesmer she'll certainly get a party invitation from time to time, much more often than if she were an ele (ele heroes are pretty sucky and unable to handle tasks more challenging than mindless SF spam) or a monk (for most part hero monks are redundant - especially in GW:EN hench monks are completely adequate).
A very simple setup is to have one warrior hate necro and one caster hate mesmer hero, and lock a target when something has to be subdued while the rest of the party does something else. This is not necessary in most situations but extremely valuable in others. I recently H+H'd Abaddon's Mouth HM (with bonus, of course) with a curses MoW and mixed dom/illusion Norgu and the pairs of bosses didn't pose any challenge at all, being well and thoroughly emasculated by the heroes.
If you don't have enough mesmer skills unlocked (or enough experience to come up with a decent build - mesmer is the most specific of all professions and optimally you should cook up a different build for each situation) then mesmer heroes are indeed pretty weak, and a BHA ranger may be a better choice.
Now that Gwen is a mesmer she'll certainly get a party invitation from time to time, much more often than if she were an ele (ele heroes are pretty sucky and unable to handle tasks more challenging than mindless SF spam) or a monk (for most part hero monks are redundant - especially in GW:EN hench monks are completely adequate).
Kas
He is just trolling...
Abnaxus
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
PvE is where damage counts, not shutdown.
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ryanryanryan0310
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
o you do get it? I thought the people in this section were hopless.
Im not talking about PVP here people. PvE is where damage counts, not shutdown. |
wilderness
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Originally Posted by Etta
Coloneh doesn't know how to play mesmer?
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PvE isn't as strenuous as some of you guys make it out to be. If you're talking about raw damage? I have a lot of fun with my fast cast nuker in PvE, and have never had any complaints about my ability playing this way.
Also, shutdown Me in PvE can be a lot of fun (and in the correct context, pretty essential); Brute Force is not the only way to play PvE, personally I find 2ele X MM etc.. a very dull experience.
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
Shut downing the second monk in the mob is always good too.
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tmakinen
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
PvE is where damage counts, not shutdown.
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wilderness
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Not quite as good as planting a Meteor Shower on his face.
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