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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
To be perfectly honest... Not quite as good as planting a Meteor Shower on his face.
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Why, o why is Gwen a mesmer?
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Originally Posted by wilderness
Meteor shower = knockdown every 3 second. Times this by Savanah Heat = goodbye scatter, hello bbq
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Making her a mesmer gives her more versatile.
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Originally Posted by tmakinen
Well, if you feel that your heroes are not picking the optimal target, there's this little cross-hair thingy in their skill bar that you can use to gently nudge them to the right direction ... it's usually easiest to do that before the brawl begins, just tab through the mob to see what's in there then assign each hero a priority target.
A very simple setup is to have one warrior hate necro and one caster hate mesmer hero, and lock a target when something has to be subdued while the rest of the party does something else. This is not necessary in most situations but extremely valuable in others. I recently H+H'd Abaddon's Mouth HM (with bonus, of course) with a curses MoW and mixed dom/illusion Norgu and the pairs of bosses didn't pose any challenge at all, being well and thoroughly emasculated by the heroes. If you don't have enough mesmer skills unlocked (or enough experience to come up with a decent build - mesmer is the most specific of all professions and optimally you should cook up a different build for each situation) then mesmer heroes are indeed pretty weak, and a BHA ranger may be a better choice. Now that Gwen is a mesmer she'll certainly get a party invitation from time to time, much more often than if she were an ele (ele heroes are pretty sucky and unable to handle tasks more challenging than mindless SF spam) or a monk (for most part hero monks are redundant - especially in GW:EN hench monks are completely adequate). |
And for the record, I'm not bashing on actual Mesmer players. Mesmer is a good class for both PvE and PvP, its just hero Mesmers are not helping the image of actual player Mesmers.
I would rather have had such an influential character such as Gwen, who is obviously going to be used a lot (with poorly chosen skillsets, of course) in PUGs, due to the fact its friggin Gwen, not be a Mesmer and cast more bad light on the real Mesmers out there.
Mesmer =
1. a primary with no inherent e-gain (Power Drain being used as e-management anyone?)
2. nice skills that require the idea of what one did 5 secs ago and the knowledge of the enemies skills to be played optimally (Diversion or Power Block anyone?)
Heroes can't deal with that.
Mesmer heroes - unless we are using them for their godly reflexes (or they are playing FC ele. Or FC something else.) - are a waste of a party slot.
Grab a necro - throw some interrupts on him and you have the best mesmer hero.
And this has nothing to do with human players.
BUT nonetheless - Norgu is a god!
Too bad that I can only have 3 heroes and so I need to waste my party slots on hench when I could have at least had a fun character in the huge shape of Norgu with me!
1. a primary with no inherent e-gain (Power Drain being used as e-management anyone?)
2. nice skills that require the idea of what one did 5 secs ago and the knowledge of the enemies skills to be played optimally (Diversion or Power Block anyone?)
Heroes can't deal with that.
Mesmer heroes - unless we are using them for their godly reflexes (or they are playing FC ele. Or FC something else.) - are a waste of a party slot.
Grab a necro - throw some interrupts on him and you have the best mesmer hero.
And this has nothing to do with human players.
BUT nonetheless - Norgu is a god!
Too bad that I can only have 3 heroes and so I need to waste my party slots on hench when I could have at least had a fun character in the huge shape of Norgu with me!
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Originally Posted by CHunterX
I would rather have had such an influential character such as Gwen, who is obviously going to be used a lot (with poorly chosen skillsets, of course) in PUGs, due to the fact its friggin Gwen, not be a Mesmer and cast more bad light on the real Mesmers out there.
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On the other hand, any amount of awesomeness wouldn't change the minds of those who 'know' that you absolutely must have 4 SF eles in every party for a chance of success, so I largely see it as a lost cause, and feel happy to be able to field two mesmers for the occasional task that benefits from that.
Edit: to Upier: indeed, in most cases a N/Me is by far a more versatile support hero to bring than a primary Me. There are usually two necro heroes in my H+H party, just because of the great utility value.
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Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
Hey I'm not doubting meteor shower. But 1 meteor shower and you done for awhile and if you miss then...........
Making her a mesmer gives her more versatile. |
If you go back along the thread you'll see I'm strongly in favor of Me over standard E parties. No need to convince me how great Mesmers are
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Originally Posted by CHunterX
Like I said, unless you force the Mes Hero to shut down a separate target that you don't plan on killing soon (meaning, its pointless to have them shutdown the monk mob, you should have killed that first) they are gonna stand their twiddling their thumbs, casting a spell here and there. Honestly, I don't think I can cycle through and pick targets for two heroes to shutdown every 10 seconds and continue play my class efficiently...
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I'm Angry that they made Gwen a Mesmer! I'll very, very rarely use her with my primary character - a Mesmer. On the other hand, my other characters will put her to good use and let Norgu get back to his acting career.
I'm not even going to comment on the Mesmer's usefulness in PvE. It's been discussed before and the anti-PvE mesmer crowd is just too thick to get it.
I'm not even going to comment on the Mesmer's usefulness in PvE. It's been discussed before and the anti-PvE mesmer crowd is just too thick to get it.
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