GW:EN a disappointment... don't let it happen to GW2

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
I'm not likeing the fact that 90% of GW:EN's weapons, armors... and 100%of the pets are just reskined objects from the past campaigns!

First thing... I feel real bad for those that had some of the games most unique weapons like Dwarven Axe, Runic Blades, and Stygian Reavers that APPARENTLY drop in GW:EN now! It almost makes HA a failure! First thing I propose, is some NEW kickass skins that drop ONLY in the HoH chest and NEVER in PvE. Animated skins seem the best for making people want to HA and such again, like when the Tormented weapons came out.

Next, the pets are... a huge failure. We didn't need any more wolves... now we have like three color's. It's dumb! I was hoping for something CrAzY like an Elephant pet, or a camel, or something thas freaking gangster like them!

And almost lastly... the armor. -_- I wish I could hack into the game and burn all of the armor in Droks. Seriously. Only "cool" armor are the gloves... that don't match anything and are just for looks! Everyone loves the gloves and such but they would love them 1000000000000000000 times more if they had a whole set of armr, like Chaos Helm's and such. That would be awesome!

So please Anet, fix the piece of $}{1+ that is GW"EN's collectibles, OR take note for GW2. There's a rumor that it may drop in 2008... DON'T LET IT HAPPEN. I don't want GW2 to come out until very late 2009 or early 2010 because if it comes out any earlier... than there rusing it! And that's retarded!

People discuss what I have just wrote and tell me back your opinion, please.

-Nox (The leetzor) _____KTHXBAI______

U can't really discuss opninions like this, you like it or not. If you would discuss contents, overpoweredness of skills or something then maybe something could be achieved

Blessed Winds

Blessed Winds

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Panda Land. It's wonderful.

PLU (Panda Lovers UNITED)

Me/Mo

To be honest, I hope this happens to GW2 so all these ungrateful players wouldn't buy the game.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

I've said it before, but the reskins don't bother me. Yes a lot of the weapons and enemies you fight are nothing but reskins of old enemies, but they clearly did that so they could spen more time on the actual game. The quests, missions, environments, story, etc, are all much higher quality than they have been in previous games, they've spent a lot more time working on what's actually important.

If that means they didn't have enough time to create whole new enemies, then who cares. The game is fantastic and I could care less if I've seen a lot of very similar monsters to these before. Just ask yourself, what's really important to the game?

Servant of Kali

Servant of Kali

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
Get a clue people...if rare skin weapons drop all the time, then they aren't rare anymore...making them COMMON. In other words, it ruins the whole point of showing off all the time you spent making money Hahahaha.

Booohooohooo. You need to show off and it failed. Try building a real personality then people will be impressed by you. Amassing gold in a fictional game and complaining that your show-off ability was taken away.. get a life.

Count Stacy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Charter Vanguard

W/Me

I think this whole thing is stupid i love gwen.. it's awsome possume.. plus .. i'm completly sure anet has been working on gw2 since prophicies. Reskinning.. i don't care. Anet doesn't want you to sell weapons for big money they just want you to go get it your self. That's why there's green drop weekends. the armors are beautiful i'm very pickey and they're pretty awsome. Ya.. the new weapons are possumes.. heros are possumes.
so there you go.

gabazieute

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

R/Mo

/ agreed on armors

Does Annette really thought it would motivate us to grind to get crappy reskinned armors ?
After a year of development ?
Have a look at Asuran's female ranger armor or Norn Female Necromancer armor !
I dunno what happen to the armor design dept but this time they did a REALLY lame job.
Or maybe they did it the afternoon before their summer holidays


Will be interesting to read how Gaile is gonna reply to the "reskin complains"

" we're 200% focused on GW²"
" I like them, they're nice "

etc...



-----> going to smash some kittens to relax, have hot chocoalte and'll come back to play GW:EN

DutchGun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Washington, USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by joomongj
Nonetheless, the majority of ... soundtrack music are ... recycled from the previous 3 campaigns. That's very much incorrect, btw. GWEN has over an hour of new music, which is as much as any previous chapter. There are a few ambient pieces reused from other chapters, but hardly the "majority".

BTW, I think this particular soundtrack is the best Soule has produced yet for the GW series.

yuna of spira

yuna of spira

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Perfectly Normal Beasts [MEAT]

Mo/Me

for those of you asking "what is the big deal even if they DID just use similar/same skins?....its just an expansion of whats already there": then why would you buy the game? why would we pay 40 bucks for something thats so similar to any/all of the other campaigns? Ill admit, there are definitely some aspects that are different such as higher level areas. but really, its boring for me when I play in instances with same appearances and not much unique content. Dungeons shouldnt have been that hard to come up with in comparison with high-level stuff theyve created for the campaigns. In fact, I even found one dungeon that looked like 90% the same as another dungeon in terms of my minimap.....

I'm not complaining about the HoM or the heroes or armor or weapons (im not a big wep/armor fan), but it would definitely have been nice to pay 40 bucks after already paying at least around 40 for 1 campaign as needed for the expansion and getting new content. just because it is an expansion doesnt mean is has to be taken linguistically as and expansion of what we've already had. who would wanna pay 40 bucks for what you already have? when I can complete the storyline in about 24 hours of playing time on 1 char, I would expect more effort to be put into other areas, though it seems most of the effort I've seen has been in advertising the new expansion up to its release date. they definitely had plenty of time to work on GW:EN as it had the longest period between previous campaign and next campaign/expansion, not to mention the fact that they pretty much just had to focus on the pve aspect.

Kuan

Kuan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Monastery

Alianza Argentina [ARG]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
It's not worth the 40 dollars, yet it isn't bad. My objective opinion. i must say this is an.... interesting definition of "objective"... anyway...

Kuan

Kuan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Monastery

Alianza Argentina [ARG]

Mo/Me

oh BTW... all new armorsets i've seen around, are completely re-skinned old armor. Not re-shaped. They used the same 3D model, placing a new texture (colors and lines drawings upon surface of the item) for many of the "40" new armors.

Any way, i will buy it and enjoy dungeons, quests, heros, and whatever there is apart from re-skinned armor and weapon (my Kanaxai sword and kephkets refuge are the best weapon i've found in the whole game).

And also, i could find a better looking armor for my monk, than the old dragon tatoo from droknar's forge, dyed black. Not in factions, not in nightfall. So i dont expect gw:en to show me the light.

Having more heros FTW! now i could have a necro MM, another one SS, and a BIP. Also an ele in fire AOE, another in air DD, and the last in earth wards. A hero warrior damage dealer, a hammer guy and a stance tank.... etc

Dungeons? humm... i still have to see that

regards

Executioner

Executioner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

UK

N/A atm

Im glad i haven't brought gwen yet, from the screenshots ive seen it does look like a re-skin-fest and even then some of the re-skins are really bad, i guess/hope some of the new game play content makes up for it, but ill wait till its down to budget prices, from what ive seen its not worth the £18 i would rarther pay £7 more and get a brand new game.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

God damn is this the only thing people can do? Whine all day and night?

Executioner

Executioner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

UK

N/A atm

Quote:
Originally Posted by blue.rellik
God damn is this the only thing people can do? Whine all day and night? Not sure whats worse, the people that whine about a subject or the people that whine about the whiners.. :P you need to find the whine about whiners thread tbh :P

FFF_Mara

FFF_Mara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Friends Fun and Fairplay

Me/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
Actually must say GW:EN is the most fun I have had in GW's in a long time.

p same here. I really, really liek it. I feel its like coming hom eto pophecies but with the good stuff they added in cantha and elona.
And i love the new gimmicks liek the many ingame games and the dungeons and stuff.

I also like the armor. Sure, they are reskins, but who cares? Its the same continent, so its ok if the armor looks similar.

Takeko Nakano

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

W/P

I think the shame about GW:EN is that it can be done so quickly. However, I admit I paid less for this as an expansion than the other chapters. But I would have paid more for more content.

Still I guess the dungeons will be great fun (I've been focusing on getting Vanguard faction so far), and I will enjoy repeating the quests with other characters. The Norn armour skin for warrior (at least the female warrior) is very disappointing, and I understand some other sets are too. But overall I see this as a good effort.

HoM could still be improved in places. The PvE title accomplishments for Protector, Guardian and Legendary Guardian are so poor - maps? Save that for explorer titles. I want a big hero looking cool or something!! Maybe a re-jig of the female warrior norn armour in the future too.

Zubrowka

Zubrowka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by gabazieute
Does Annette really thought it would motivate us to grind to get crappy reskinned armors ? Thank God motivating people to grind isn't Anet's objective. For a while it seemed like they're sliding down that slope, turning Guild Wars into Guild Work. GW:EN is the best GW so far because you start the game basically maxed out. No worrying about leveling and getting this armour or that. The focus is all on winning battles. That's the way it should be: no grind.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Servant of Kali
Hahahaha.

Booohooohooo. You need to show off and it failed. Try building a real personality then people will be impressed by you. Amassing gold in a fictional game and complaining that your show-off ability was taken away.. get a life. Your reply was pathetic... get a life yourself.

The OP reminds me of Zinger... was it here or GWO that he posted about how GWEN was a letdown when he has no intention of even buying it.

I just wish the frigging postal service would get a move on, i want my GWEN!

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

While I'd like more armors, I must say that EotN is FAR from being a disappointment.

Sorry, but for me, every campaign gets better than the last one. Including Facions over Prophecies (I'm in a minority here, I know)...

gsampl4

gsampl4

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

US, Georgia

LORD

R/Mo

There is a simple solution for all of those complaining about reusing this or that and its just an old re-skinned item, go to college, get a degree in graphic design and go to work for Arena Net and show us what you got. What are you waiting for? …… That’s what I thought.

dio.oib

dio.oib

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Chile

Fat insecure Neurotic Emotional [FINE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
I'm not likeing the fact that 90% of GW:EN's weapons, armors... and 100%of the pets are just reskined objects from the past campaigns!

First thing... I feel real bad for those that had some of the games most unique weapons like Dwarven Axe, Runic Blades, and Stygian Reavers that APPARENTLY drop in GW:EN now! It almost makes HA a failure! First thing I propose, is some NEW kickass skins that drop ONLY in the HoH chest and NEVER in PvE. Animated skins seem the best for making people want to HA and such again, like when the Tormented weapons came out.

Next, the pets are... a huge failure. We didn't need any more wolves... now we have like three color's. It's dumb! I was hoping for something CrAzY like an Elephant pet, or a camel, or something thas freaking gangster like them!

And almost lastly... the armor. -_- I wish I could hack into the game and burn all of the armor in Droks. Seriously. Only "cool" armor are the gloves... that don't match anything and are just for looks! Everyone loves the gloves and such but they would love them 1000000000000000000 times more if they had a whole set of armr, like Chaos Helm's and such. That would be awesome!

So please Anet, fix the piece of $}{1+ that is GW"EN's collectibles, OR take note for GW2. There's a rumor that it may drop in 2008... DON'T LET IT HAPPEN. I don't want GW2 to come out until very late 2009 or early 2010 because if it comes out any earlier... than there rusing it! And that's retarded!

People discuss what I have just wrote and tell me back your opinion, please.

-Nox (The leetzor)

Hmmm, yeah, now I remember why in HA’d because of those ‘kickass’ weapons that drop from the HoH chest, if not…what’s HA for right?

Nox… I can’t seem to see how PvE campaign makes HA fail and apparently you think the only thing that drives people to HA is the chest? Seems to me you have a PvE junkie way of thinking.

And about the pets, yeah… ofc I can definitely see an elephant and a camel with some ‘freaking gangster’ stuff… yeah, next thing we could have is Gwen with a leash and u would be the pimp… or , or we can add in some ‘freaking gangster’ guns and make GW more ‘gangster' for you. Because NOX IS THE LEETZOR !

and YEAH! Anet don’t rus it! Cuz rusing it will make people like me think its retarded

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

[PuG]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Bah. Close this thread, delete Nox's account and bar him from ever playing anything with a "G" or "W" anywhere in the title ever again. and while we are at it, perm ban you from gw guru. He has a good point and your post is just waste of space...

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

[PuG]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
I just wish the frigging postal service would get a move on, i want my GWEN! I hear ya. I must ask, did you buy your copy from www.play.com as well ?

ScorpDeception63

ScorpDeception63

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kentucky

Shaemoor University [UoS] (Leader)

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
I'm not likeing the fact that 90% of GW:EN's weapons, armors... and 100%of the pets are just reskined objects from the past campaigns!

First thing... I feel real bad for those that had some of the games most unique weapons like Dwarven Axe, Runic Blades, and Stygian Reavers that APPARENTLY drop in GW:EN now! It almost makes HA a failure! First thing I propose, is some NEW kickass skins that drop ONLY in the HoH chest and NEVER in PvE. Animated skins seem the best for making people want to HA and such again, like when the Tormented weapons came out.

Next, the pets are... a huge failure. We didn't need any more wolves... now we have like three color's. It's dumb! I was hoping for something CrAzY like an Elephant pet, or a camel, or something thas freaking gangster like them!

And almost lastly... the armor. -_- I wish I could hack into the game and burn all of the armor in Droks. Seriously. Only "cool" armor are the gloves... that don't match anything and are just for looks! Everyone loves the gloves and such but they would love them 1000000000000000000 times more if they had a whole set of armr, like Chaos Helm's and such. That would be awesome!

So please Anet, fix the piece of $}{1+ that is GW"EN's collectibles, OR take note for GW2. There's a rumor that it may drop in 2008... DON'T LET IT HAPPEN. I don't want GW2 to come out until very late 2009 or early 2010 because if it comes out any earlier... than there rusing it! And that's retarded!

People discuss what I have just wrote and tell me back your opinion, please.

-Nox (The leetzor) 1. You feel bad for them? Uh, I don't? Good, now people can't get up in someone's face as often and go LOOK AT ME IM ABOVE YOU NOOB.

2. Your saying HA is a failure now because of weapon drops/reskinning, and that people only HA for weapons? You disgust me.

3.You sound like a little kid who want's everything his way in his little imaginary perfect world. a) Gangster pets? Wow... b) CrAzY?.... c) Animated skins are the only way to make ppl HA again? I'm not even commenting on that.

4. I disagree with every single thing you just said, and your making it sound like you know everything about GWEN, and you haven't even played the PvE part, which is THE WHOLE GAME.

5. Like I said earlier, it sounds like your a kid who wants everything his way in his little imaginary world, sorry to dissapoint you.

Lianna

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qual
I hear ya. I must ask, did you buy your copy from www.play.com as well ? I got mine from Play.com and still waiting for GWEN to arive. I'm not happy that I'm gonna miss the opening weekend.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

The only armor that I actually thought "Hmm cool" was the Silver Eagle warrior armor and some assassin armor, maybe Asuran? Aside from that, to each his own. The gauntlets are uck though.

Sub Frost

Sub Frost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Portugal

R/

I'm sorry... I couldn't continue reading your opinion after this Quote:
I was hoping for something CrAzY like an Elephant pet, or a camel , the laughter was just too much.

But thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Squirl

Squirl

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Slayers Players

A/N

GWEN is a huge disappointment. I see people saying the gameplay improved, how? From what I see it's the same and in some aspects worse than it was. If there was some huge improvement to the gameplay, I missed it. The only thing I've noticed is that they added yet more grinding.

It's been a year since NF and what do we get? A story that ends within the day of the release. Come on now. The end was rushed, we barely ever got to fight any Destroyers. Factions secondary main enemies, the Afflicted, even got more screen time than GWENs main enemies.

Everything is reskinned. Take a look at Sins Asura armor... ok, good. Now take a look at Sins Elite Imperial. Honestly now, that's just horrible when they look exactly the same with different colors. The people at Anet are getting paid for this? Sign me up.

Dungeons were suppose to be the big selling point. Though I can say I had some fun doing Frostmaw's Burrow during the preview event, I haven't ran into any other dungeons that have really been fun. A lot of them require you to run through multiple zones just to reach them. Why couldn't there at least be a town remotely close to some of these dungeons.

They were trying to show off the new graphics. Ironically enough when they did in the video, that's the only place where these new graphical effects can be seen. They're still just as good as they were, but just that, not any better.

For taking as long as it did for GWEN to get here, I expected a lot more. Instead we get an expansion that makes an EQ expansion look good.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoXiFy
I'm not likeing the fact that 90% of GW:EN's weapons, armors... and 100%of the pets are just reskined objects from the past campaigns!

First thing... I feel real bad for those that had some of the games most unique weapons like Dwarven Axe, Runic Blades, and Stygian Reavers that APPARENTLY drop in GW:EN now! It almost makes HA a failure! First thing I propose, is some NEW kickass skins that drop ONLY in the HoH chest and NEVER in PvE. Animated skins seem the best for making people want to HA and such again, like when the Tormented weapons came out.

Next, the pets are... a huge failure. We didn't need any more wolves... now we have like three color's. It's dumb! I was hoping for something CrAzY like an Elephant pet, or a camel, or something thas freaking gangster like them!

And almost lastly... the armor. -_- I wish I could hack into the game and burn all of the armor in Droks. Seriously. Only "cool" armor are the gloves... that don't match anything and are just for looks! Everyone loves the gloves and such but they would love them 1000000000000000000 times more if they had a whole set of armr, like Chaos Helm's and such. That would be awesome!

So please Anet, fix the piece of $}{1+ that is GW"EN's collectibles, OR take note for GW2. There's a rumor that it may drop in 2008... DON'T LET IT HAPPEN. I don't want GW2 to come out until very late 2009 or early 2010 because if it comes out any earlier... than there rusing it! And that's retarded!

People discuss what I have just wrote and tell me back your opinion, please.

-Nox (The leetzor) UR POST CONFIRMS MY THOGUHts

ill never buy Gwen

GW 2 probabley

John Bloodstone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Requiem Lords

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lianna
I got mine from Play.com and still waiting for GWEN to arive. I'm not happy that I'm gonna miss the opening weekend. Try ordering from somewhere else next time, like Gameplay, I got my copy on Thursday from them.

After being disappointed by Play.com on several occasions I have stopped buying my games from them. I'd rather pay £2-3 more somewhere else and actually get it on time.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

This thread isn't going anywhere, and I don't like the comments posted.

Closed.