HOM does not accept tormented weapons (?)

Kadavra Remnor

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

01 Sep 2007 at 16:02 - 1

ok, so after obtaining my first tapestry piece in the hall of monuments, i tried to display my tormented weapons in the "valor" monument (either equipped or in a bag). i was rewarded with the following message:
"only the greatest weapons may be displayed here."

correct me if i'm wrong, but i was under the impression that tormented weapons are currently THE ultimate weapon to obtain in-game. i searched both wikis and apparently only GW:EN specific weapons can be stored in this monument.

i am extremely disappointed about this... why can we store armor/pets/titles/minis/everything else from other campaigns, yet the true elite weapons are excluded??

/sobs in a corner of my HOM

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

01 Sep 2007 at 16:08 - 2

LOL! No tormented weapons?? gg anet, gg. While I think the hall of monuments is great, the weapon monument could be made to... not suck

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

01 Sep 2007 at 16:09 - 3

Not even the Droknar Weapons (GWEN Endgame green) can be put there.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

01 Sep 2007 at 16:10 - 4

The only weapons you can put in the HoM are the destroyer weapons afaik.

My Green Storage

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Arizona

My Blue Storage

01 Sep 2007 at 16:57 - 5

I guess that makes sense .. in a way since they're the reason for the expansion, but I found it to be shitty when you couldn't even put an Ele sword up.

I selected my green wand/offhand, nothing.
So I figure let's go get my Ele sword. I go back .. same message.

I look it up on Wiki, apparently just GWEN weapons.
I thought golds, but if just Destroyer Weapons, that's .. not good.
But whatever.

Matt_Night

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Poland

[SOLL]

01 Sep 2007 at 17:26 - 6

OMG, weapons monument seems like a joke to me ATM. We were getting great weapons for 2 years and now I'm allowed to keep 1 skin which i dont even like?
Wow, I'll be feeling really priviliged in GW2 with my uber rare destroyer weapon, 5k a piece...

ShadowofWar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Draconus Reincarnatus [DRGN]

Mo/

01 Sep 2007 at 17:29 - 7

im assuming only gwen greens and maybe it might be just end game gwen greens

Matt_Night

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Poland

[SOLL]

01 Sep 2007 at 17:30 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowofWar

im assuming only gwen greens and maybe it might be just end game gwen greens No, no GWEN greens, not even endgame GWEN greens...

Epic Monkey Battle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Warrior's Isle

Fat Kids Are Hard To Kid [Nap]

Mo/

01 Sep 2007 at 17:40 - 9

I tried putting my gold Aureate Blade (GW:EN skin) on the "Valor" monument, but it wouldn't let me.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

01 Sep 2007 at 17:42 - 10

So yeah, my friend managed to put his destroyer shield in HoM. I think it's safe to say only destroyer weapons can be used.

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

01 Sep 2007 at 17:42 - 11

They fixed the title and armor ones, now they need to fix this one so it doesn't SUCK ASS...

Achilles Antony

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Hangar 18

01 Sep 2007 at 17:52 - 12

Well, that sucks. We should be able to put whatever weapons on there that we want to have displayed. Looks like I'll be keeping my monument empty, but whatever.

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

01 Sep 2007 at 17:52 - 13

Ok guys, let's wait for it, Anet should fix this one overtime, they'd be NUTS not to.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

01 Sep 2007 at 19:42 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Ok guys, let's wait for it, Anet should fix this one overtime, they'd be NUTS not to. since this one is not broken SPECIAL GWEN is all that is going in.

1. thay already specified special GWEN only

2. the only thing going into it will be the items for GW2 unlocks

3. make ANY exception at all and then you get the avalanche of people saying you did it for that item now do it for this one.

4. no matter how much you worked/spent/love an item if it is not one of the preapproved GWEN items no way.

5. EOTN is a spot on the game map

HOM is a little showcase on the butt of that spot on the game map

i am waiting for the screams of anguish that all those billions of gold items cant be tossed in and use the monument for an extra storage

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

01 Sep 2007 at 19:54 - 15

It's not about storage, but I think many people would like to showcase their favorite looking weapons and such. I wouldn't mind just showing any weapons that look cool, not one set, kinda pointless to me.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

01 Sep 2007 at 20:06 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

So yeah, my friend managed to put his destroyer shield in HoM. I think it's safe to say only destroyer weapons can be used. Really? That's kind of lame =/.

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

01 Sep 2007 at 20:28 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

since this one is not broken SPECIAL GWEN is all that is going in.

1. thay already specified special GWEN only

2. the only thing going into it will be the items for GW2 unlocks

3. make ANY exception at all and then you get the avalanche of people saying you did it for that item now do it for this one.

4. no matter how much you worked/spent/love an item if it is not one of the preapproved GWEN items no way.

5. EOTN is a spot on the game map

HOM is a little showcase on the butt of that spot on the game map

i am waiting for the screams of anguish that all those billions of gold items cant be tossed in and use the monument for an extra storage I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about the sheer lack of items that can go in that monument, not even the end-game greens can go on it, which is kinda lame......

boko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

01 Sep 2007 at 20:44 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about the sheer lack of items that can go in that monument, not even the end-game greens can go on it, which is kinda lame...... Actually, if you think about HoM and all the inheritance factor, it does make sense that only certain specific items are placeable there. HoM is suppose to show that someone in the future GW2 has actually played original GW1, and thus be the only ones to have a certain specific weapons that are not available otherwise through normal GW2 gameplay.

What if the chaos axe or whatever other weapons are placed in HoM and that those same skin turns out to be normal drops in GW2? I can already imagined many people whining that it makes them look crap and claim that they wasted their life playing GW1 already since their items they stored in their HoM = normal drop is GW2. We all know the drama level in those forum a-la-GWG.

Since only destroyer weapon are the only items transferable, it would be wise to say that it would be a unique skin available only to those who played GW1. If it is not, I dun't see the purpose of HoM at all. What's the point of transfering a max dmg weapon into GW2 which turns out to be equal to a common drop in GW2, or even a weapon that ANet might not create an equivalent to it in GW2?

With time, Anet might increase the range of weapons, but to go and think that they will allow all weapons into HoM is a bit absurd.

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

01 Sep 2007 at 20:50 - 19

Well I think any/all uniques should be allowed to put in there since the mobs they are from long be dead in most cases.

boko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

01 Sep 2007 at 21:02 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfwing

Well I think any/all uniques should be allowed to put in there since the mobs they are from long be dead in most cases. Sounds plausible to me... Actually, I thought that it was those green items that would have been accepted in HoM before GWEN came out... like you know a reminder that you killed certain boss in GW1 and your lineage see that weapon and know that big daddy slayed x boss to get that weapon. But that's only my opinion.

But then, there are so many green in GW1 that it is bound to be over-crowded like the minipet section.

In that case, not such a good idea >.>

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

01 Sep 2007 at 21:11 - 21

Maybe you can only chose 10-20 greens you like? Though there are some normal golds I like for design..:> Razorclaw I'm partial too.

Friar Khan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

California

01 Sep 2007 at 21:29 - 22

I agree that the weapons monument implementation seems ridiculously poor; there needs to be a greater variety of weapons allowed in there. I think with the HoM Anet is generally thinking too much about how monuments will be inherited because Gaile's responses on some of the HoM complaints so far (not being account based) largely come from the inheritance point of view. They should be more concerned about making the HoM an appreciated aspect of the game independent of GW2.

Most people would rather show off the weapons they've already aquired, the stuff they've accumulated and bonded with over the past 2+ years, than this small selection of weapons. I really hope they open up the weapon monument and I'm considering boycotting the HoM until they do.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

01 Sep 2007 at 22:08 - 23

[QUOTE] Quote:

Originally Posted by Friar Khan

I think with the HoM Anet is generally thinking too much about how monuments will be inherited because Gaile's responses on some of the HoM complaints so far (not being account based) largely come from the inheritance point of view.

considering that from the very first mention of the hall it has been advertised as a way to bridge some accomplishments into GW2.

inheritance is its only reason for even being there

they said you could visit your hall and even invite friends in to see it.

a few people like you have turned the hall from the transfer to GW2 that was stated as it only reason for existing into a monument to me instead.

NOTICE

GWEN IS A GAME

HOM IS A MINOR FEATURE SOME PEOPLE MAY USE 2 YEARS FROM NOW

Quote: They should be more concerned about making the HoM an appreciated aspect of the game independent of GW2. it is not an aspect of the game as i have been playing and not touched it except for Gwen/scrying pool reruns

they could close the door on it until GW2 and not affect gameplay at all as it will not be needed until then

Quote:

Most people would rather show off the weapons they've already aquired, the stuff they've accumulated and bonded with over the past 2+ years, than this small selection of weapons. I really hope they open up the weapon monument and I'm considering boycotting the HoM until they do. right boycott something you cant use for maybe 2 years

most people would rather play the game than admire themselves going oh look how wonderful i am and here is my monument to prove it.

bye while i play you can admire each others halls

Kadavra Remnor

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

02 Sep 2007 at 01:42 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

The only weapons you can put in the HoM are the destroyer weapons afaik. and the sad thing is that those don't even look that great. i've been asking around all day and so far everyone has told me the same - nothing else (so far) works in the valor monument.

Friar Khan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

California

02 Sep 2007 at 03:44 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

You're entitled to your opinion, but I'm sorry to say that I find your objections to my opinion to be laughable. Although I doubt I can say anything to you to modify your opinion, but I'll reply to you since you were addressing me in your post.

We're talking about something called the "Hall of Monuments". It's main purpose is to literally "immortalize" a character's accomplishments and gear, so it's pretty nonsensical for you to suggest that it's not meant to be... a monument of your character's accomplishments. I agree with you that it probably wouldn't exist if not for GW2, but to say that it's only about inheritance is silly because if that were the case they could have implemented inheritance without creating a HoM location. Furthermore, we've been reminded in each bit of news on the HoM that we can invite our friends to view ours. Thereby we've clearly been encouraged to use it for something other than inheritance: for displaying our accomplishments to our friends.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

HOM IS A MINOR FEATURE SOME PEOPLE MAY USE 2 YEARS FROM NOW[/B]

it is not an aspect of the game as i have been playing and not touched it except for Gwen/scrying pool reruns

they could close the door on it until GW2 and not affect gameplay at all as it will not be needed until then

right boycott something you cant use for maybe 2 years lol, ok we'll call it a feature if you don't want me to call it an aspect of the game. Pardon me for using the wrong terminology for you. And how ironic that, like me, you also are not using the hall of monuments for anything but npcs and the scrying pool

. You, of course, are correct to say that it doesn't affect gameplay, if it did it certainly would be much harder for me to not use it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

most people would rather play the game than admire themselves going oh look how wonderful i am and here is my monument to prove it. Me too, which is another reason why I haven't been paying much attention to it other than expressing my opinions about the way it works. But part of the function of these forums is for people to discuss their thoughts on the new expansion so I've excercised my liberty to share my opinions on the HoM. I don't regret buying the game because of any disappointments. The fun of playing through the storyline has exceeded my expectations, and I'm very content in that regard

. I would have bought the expansion regardless of if it contained a HoM or not. But I'm sharing my opinion on the HoM's shortcomings because that's what this thread is all about and I have sympathy for people like the OP who are sad because they can't put their high end weapons into the HoM.

Cleavage

Worlds Hexiest Man

Join Date: Jun 2006

[TRDR]

02 Sep 2007 at 06:40 - 26

You have got to be kidding me. How some of you actually think its going to stay this way.

Some of you feel elite weapons are Tormented..... Destroyer..... GREENS !!!!

While some of us feel The real elite weapons are the r7 15^50 's and the r7 perfect shields etc. Tyrian perfects. Unconditionals.

Items worth 100k +100 - 500 ectos.

Either way: What 1 person calls elite is up to them.

This will be fixed and you will be able to display and get back in return in GW2 whatever weapons u want.

OR.... GW1 and GW2 will die.
GW2 will not even get off the ground.

Kadavra Remnor

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

02 Sep 2007 at 15:22 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleavage

You have got to be kidding me. How some of you actually think its going to stay this way. we can only hope it changes, right? and it's funny how there's no word from anet as of yet as to the limited functionality of this monument.

Boris De Pig

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Dreams of Decadence [coco]

A/W

02 Sep 2007 at 17:27 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleavage

Items worth 100k +100 - 500 ectos.
As far as the game is concerned nothing is worth that much... Req 9 perfect gold sundering storm bow, game values it at 347 gold...

How is the game supposed to know what ridiculous price you were prepared to pay for a good looking weapon that barely anyone will ever see?

I'm guessing Destroyer Weapons are valued at 0 like quite a lot of the 'reward' items in GW:EN.

BdP

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

02 Sep 2007 at 18:06 - 29

At the very least, the Valor monument needs to accept greens.

Shit sucks as it is right now...