defeating the Glacial Griffon?

Duranin

Duranin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

East Coast

none

Me/

Do you guys have any suggestions for defeating the griffon (quest: Cold As Ice) with an assassin primary? Relying on crit defenses to keep the spirits at bay while hacking away at the griffon is inadequate and too much based on whether a stray shadowsong attack will get through that 25% gap.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Use poison arrow or apply poison and drag him around until you are higher up than him and he gets stuck. That's the only way I could beat him on my warrior. Yay for glitches!

dwchang

dwchang

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legion of Losers [LOL]

I would suggest massive degen. You're gonna laugh, but I beat him on my Warrior with Life Transfer, Life Siphon and another degen spell. Just kite and reapply your degen and he'll go down.

It'll take quite some time though.

Trx

Trx

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Netherlands

E/

I think degen and running around works ok. On my paragon I didn't have Life Transfer at the time so i used Grenth's Balance. Took him down pretty fast but had to do the last part throwing spears while he was stuck .

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Bah.
Disrupting Stab, Wild Strike, Horns of the Ox, Moebius Strike, Critical Strike, "You Move Like a Dwarf!", Way of Perfection and something else, forgot what.
Interrupting him so he won't place any spirits is the key, once he's at 50% hp it's easy- just Moebius Horn him.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Stay away from the spirits. I beat him with a Ripostes build.

Duranin

Duranin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

East Coast

none

Me/

So if I did something with seeping wound/falling spider/twisting fangs and some curses hexes, would that work? or should I just forget about using sin skills and go cap life transfer or something..

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

you crippling anguish + conjure phantasm and cry of pain

n3ptun3

n3ptun3

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

no man's land

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Use poison arrow or apply poison and drag him around until you are higher up than him and he gets stuck. That's the only way I could beat him on my warrior. Yay for glitches! err i got the same glitch lol, i was running away, and then it got stuck somewhere

Holy Mountian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

U.S.A.

Corrupted Souls Clan [CSC]

W/Mo

Use poison or damage, and if you where you spawn, lure him back into the wall (kinda where the shelve type of things are) he will run through to you, and start casting spirits, and lock him self there.

Grab a flatbow and walk up the left or right hill, or you can just poison/bleed and kite

Holy Mountian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

U.S.A.

Corrupted Souls Clan [CSC]

W/Mo

Use poison or damage, and if you where you spawn, lure him back into the wall (kinda where the shelve type of things are) he will run through to you, and start casting spirits, and lock him self there.

Grab a flatbow and walk up the left or right hill, or you can just poison/bleed and kite

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Poop out a bunch of spirits and /dance.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Heh.
Didn't you ever watch Thundercats when you were younger?
I tried it the way you did at first and failed... but then I noticed I had "Call of the Eye" on me... and realised it actually meant the Eye of Thundera.... and it all became clear.


A/Rt


What I used to beat it:

[skill]Way of Perfection[/skill][skill]Sight Beyond Sight[/skill][skill]Golden Phoenix Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Strike[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Critical Agility[/skill][skill]Critical Defenses[/skill]

I'm sure you can work the attributes out yourself. Just load up with Critical (13) and Dagger and throw the rest into Shadow Arts. Runes are a must.

When you see the bastard appear, activate Way of Perfection.
When he turns red... stick on Critical Agility.
When you hit with Golden Phoenix Strike, activate Critical Defenses.
And above and beyond the rest... when he is close to completing Shadowsong, activate Sight Beyond Sight.

Easy as pie.
You might get blinded once or twice if you're unlucky... but activate SBS as soon as it recharges and you should be fine.
If you're not totally alright with it as is, use Daggers of Enchanting.

Sweet Mystery

Sweet Mystery

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Shadow Hunters Of Light [SHOL]

R/

I hit him with degen and then he ran away behind his spirits (the centre red dots). I then legged it up the hill at the side of him, out of range of his spriits, but in his aggro range. I then used the bear eite norn skills to attack him at range as seen. He soon went down..

chocubu

chocubu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Sunny Island

The Republic Edge

R/A

Just for people who needs help with this in the future.... (",)

One method that'll work with ALL CLASSES is as a Primary/Secondary NECROMANCER:-

SKILLS:
1) Animated Bone Minions
2) Animated Bone Horror
3) Animated Shambling Horror
4) Blood of the Master
5) Grenth's Balance
6) Anything (Preferably Energy Boost)
7) Anything (Preferably Energy Boost)
8) Anything (Preferably Energy Boost)

ATTRIBUTES: Death Magic as high as possible. Do whatever you want with the rest... Keep in mind that energy management is very important here.

WEAPON/ARMOR: Anything that gets your Energy to 50 and above...

STEPS:

Before the Glacial Griffon arrives/become hostile run to the wolves' corpses.

BEGIN CASTING:
1. Animated Bone Minion (2 Minions Total),
2. Animated Bone Horror (3 Minions Total),
3. Animated Shambling Horror (4 Minions Total),
4. Animated Bone Minion (6 Minions Total),
5. Animated Bone Horror (7 Minions Total),
6. Animated Gone Minions (9 Minions Total).

Don't bother healing your undeads before you get 7 or more of them. Concentrate on getting more minions first. Wait a while to gain energy if required. Don't worry, by the time you get 6-7 minions out, he won't be summoning any/too many spirits.

By the time you get 7-9 minions, he'll be too busy dealing damage to them to even worry about killing you.

Using Blood of the Master, heal your minions when you see their health going lower than 75%. Otherwise, don't waste too much energy. Keep up the healing until YOUR OWN health's pretty low. Use Grenth's Balance on the Griffon - it'll take a huge chunk of HP from it for yourself. Continue to heal your minions and use Grenth's Balance when YOUR HP is low.

Rinse and Repeat. He'll be wasted in no time.

Hope this helps... It's pretty simple, but you've gotta be fast, especially in the beginning.

Good luck!

Cheers.

Ace2001

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Stay away from the spirits. I beat him with a Ripostes build. Can somebody please post what skills are used in this "Riposites" build? (I assume it's the same build that warriors use to be the norn tournament with, too.)

I've seen it mentioned repeatedly, but I can't seem to find any listing of it. x-x;

batno_mercy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Myth

E/

[skill]Golden Fox Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Shattering Assault[/skill][skill]Sight Beyond Sight[/skill][skill]Critical Eye[/skill][skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Critical Agility[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill] or [skill]Way of Perfection[/skill] or [skill]Critical Strike[/skill] <--- I'd go with Critical strike

Template code

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Can't stop us now. He will go down as easy as Shiro does when facing this build. More info on http://pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/any_PvE_Assaulter

Valeria

Valeria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Germany

PaRe

W/

best build so far is
[skill]auspicious parry[/skill][skill]riposte[/skill][skill]deadly riposte[/skill] and running away from ghosts just hit him once in a while so he cant regenerate.

used it to beat magni and the griffin with my paragon. should work on all other classes as well.

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

Quote:
BEGIN CASTING:
1. Animated Bone Minion (2 Minions Total),
2. Animated Bone Horror (3 Minions Total),
3. Animated Shambling Horror (4 Minions Total),
4. Animated Bone Minion (6 Minions Total),
5. Animated Bone Horror (7 Minions Total),
6. Animated Gone Minions (9 Minions Total).

Don't bother healing your undeads before you get 7 or more of them. Concentrate on getting more minions first. Wait a while to gain energy if required. Don't worry, by the time you get 6-7 minions out, he won't be summoning any/too many spirits.

By the time you get 7-9 minions, he'll be too busy dealing damage to them to even worry about killing you.
That above, does not work ( I'm summoning as fast as possible, but about 3 seconds after his name turns red, theres 4 spirits out), does anyone have a Necro build that works, I'm so close to abandoning, zero fun

tigros

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Romania

Eternus Love [kiSu]

D/

longbow, /rit secondary and nightmare weapon...

camp up someplace and keep stealing life from him... run around if needed.

I basically used a similar build to do the norn tournament with a dervish/rit.

You can add bloodsong, vampirism, nightmare weapon and should work fine.

bpphantom

bpphantom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canukistan

The Eyes of Ashtabula [Eyes]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebideedee
That above, does not work ( I'm summoning as fast as possible, but about 3 seconds after his name turns red, theres 4 spirits out), does anyone have a Necro build that works, I'm so close to abandoning, zero fun Ignore the necro build then. The other ones are very nice. Anything that lets you throw degen on him will work over time. Just need to get away from the spirits as indicated further up. You'll get it

Dimitri_Stucoff

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

This is what I used. Only equipment needed is a longbow, simply take the highland and apply poison, and use move like a dwarf along with running away when he charges to attack you.

12 wilderness, 12 crit (sup crit mask and rune), 3 wilderness

savage shot, apply poison, you move like a dwarf, way of assassin, way of perfection, way of the master, critical agility, critical eye.

template code: OwJjgNZ8ITqGzG2kxZEQLi1g6PA

I know it is a lot of enchantments but most of them are 1/4 sec cast times so it really does not slow your pace down. Crit eye helps with energy as almost every shot will critical strike. Savage him if he rushes you and decides to cast a spirit (or replace with sharpen daggers for more degen). Each hit should do 35-50 damage so he will fall fast.

Edit: to Zibedeedee:
For necro I simply went something like SS with defile/des enchantment dou, parasitic bond, sig of lost souls. Wrapped him around a corner and nuked him to death where he nor his spirits could not attack me.

laxin213

laxin213

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

USA EST (GMT-5)

***Looking for a guild***

N/

I tried a bunch of builds w/ my ele. I settled on the E/A green farmer bar.

Death's Charge, Shadow Form, Glyph of Ele Power, Silver Armor, Crystal Wave, Obsidian Flame, Tenalis Crystals, Dark Escape

Usage. Let him get 4 spirits up. Shadow step w/ Shadow form on. Cast Silver armor. Spam spells. When shadow form is about to end, run away with Dark Escape. Shadow form will be over half recharged. Stay safe. when show form is recharged, run in and kill him. If you did it correct, the inital attack will rip off about 70% of his health and he'll only regen a small amount in the time needed for your Shadow form to recharge. as an ele:
16 earth
12 Shadow
4+3=7 energy storage
(2 sup runes)

as a sin?
16 Shadow Form
12 Earth

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

D/

pain, bloodsong, vampirism, anguish, *the interupt spirit*, painful bonds, shadowsong, summon spirits.

12 channeling
12 communing

sumong pain, bloodsong, vampirism as soon as he appears, use the interupt sprit so he can't summon any of his, summong sahdowsong+ anguish and cast painful bond. Keep doing this and use Summon Spirits when he summons his own that way they don't kill each other. Run away when all your spirits die, resurmond and use summong spirits to move them, rinse and repeate..i guess this works but it takes soem time.

Blu

Blu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Michigan

Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT]

R/

Bone minions + ebon vanguard assassin + summon skill + UB = Easy win

voldermord

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

P/W

mesmer secondary..

conjure nightmare every 10 secs.. be sure to conjure and run back so he will be stuck at middle casting noob spirits. Repeat process.. Energy troubles? Equip an illusion/inspiration offhand +12enrgy. Get waste not want not. cast it as and when its CD is over = free enrgy. ether feast for HP. Got enough enrgy? Get Phantasm + Nightmare..Spam them every 10secs..++..

12 illusion 10inspiration. Some points for ur main prof healing skills feigned neutrality, healing signet etc etc.
Got him down wif my W/Me in less than 3 mins.
Ps Dont lure him 1 big circle or ull find spirits everywhere..pain in the *** if that happens..

Gl and have fun!

greywolf31

greywolf31

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Western MA, USA

BHG

E/Me

For those that still are having trouble, I am going to share my experience...

I had tried this countless times with three different characters, Derv, Ele, and Mesmer (Primaries).

I tried every variation suggested with no luck, so I figured I just suck, and I am doomed to not get through this.
So on a whim I tried the rit build (Rit-2ndary) I used for the norn tourney, the one with brutal weapon and vampirism. This build was the only one that even came close, ah, but still no cigar... I would get him down to around 10 percent or so, before I was dead and he stopped going down in health.
So I thought about it, and it occurred to me, what if I buffer myself.
I used pie and CCs/Candy Apple and an Armor of Salvation.
That gave me the edge I needed, and it made it possible...

I still prolly suck at anything the requires real timing and finese but this worked... I was really at my wits end here... hence the madness that made me use perfectly good consumables and goodies reserved for elite missions.

But it worked...

In any case, remember, don't zone out until you are sure he won't die, even if you do... if he dies, even if you're dead... You still Win... LOL

Good Luck

Stewie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Aotearoa

Koss

W/N

Grenth's Balance and degen=).
He died of degen after I had died, as to why degen is good.

greywolf31

greywolf31

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Western MA, USA

BHG

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie
Grenth's Balance and degen=).
He died of degen after I had died, as to why degen is good. The problem I had with Degen was, his health wouldn't go down fast enough, or rather it wouldn't last long enough past my death to score the win.

Don't know if that's what others are experiencing or not.

Maybe my skills aren't l33t enough... lol

davehall

davehall

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

NA

W/Mo

I only used four skills: Ursan Blessing, Nightmare Weapon, Bloodsong, Vampirism.

I maxed my weapon skill and maxed Channeling Magic. With a max. Norn title, I had +20 armour and +200 max. health.

Just after the Glacial Griffon drops (appears) I spawned both Bloodsong and Vampirism. I activated Nightmare Weapon just as the Glacial Griffon turns foe and then ran towards him as I activated Ursan Blessing and proceeded to thrash him.

I died with the Glacial Griffon near death, but the sprites finished him.

In my haste to try new builds for this quest, I forgot to activate Heart of the Norn. Can anyone confirm you can actually activate it for this quest?

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

I brought Mark of Rodgort, couple of fire dmg skills, SH was my elite, used it to clear out spirits, fire attunement, aura of restoration, summon ruby djinn, and flame djinns haste. I used my attunements, summoned the djinn, casted mark of rodgort, and i just used a single spell at a time with rodgort setting him on fire, the djinn's wanding and immolates help a lot, and the when i was taking too much dmg I casted flame djinn's haste, and ran away. It's not very easy to do, took me 4 tries but it worked. Asura rank at the time was 5.

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

Here's my link to how I fought it......


artay

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

Zebideedee your avatars a moogle knight from final fantasy tactics advance is it not? mm makes me want to play.


As for the griffon, just use poison tip sig and some other buffs, and hit it occaisionally from far away with a bow.

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by artay
Zebideedee your avatars a moogle knight from final fantasy tactics advance is it not? mm makes me want to play. Honestly dunno I just searched for Moogle gifs etc. Wish I could get one as a pet although they're probably like Gremlins, feed 'em after midnight and they turn into slimey green things that try to kill you

Destro Maniak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace2001
Can somebody please post what skills are used in this "Riposites" build? (I assume it's the same build that warriors use to be the norn tournament with, too.)

I've seen it mentioned repeatedly, but I can't seem to find any listing of it. x-x; auspicious parry, riposte, deadly riposte

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

Does anyone have any suggestions for a warrior? I have tried everything but I stop to fight him and he just casts his spirits and then I run away and he just follows putting down spirits along the way so theyre spread out. suggestions/build?

greywolf31

greywolf31

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Western MA, USA

BHG

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro Maniak
auspicious parry, riposte, deadly riposte Maybe that above will help you...

I tried all kinds of stuff and the rit build was the only thing that worked for me.

But I haven't tried it with my warrior yet either...

I suppose if you get in there quick enough, and keep him busy/knocked down/distracted, while heaping tons o hurt on him, you should be ok.

But I can't confirm or deny that...

kagenuma

kagenuma

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

here. And i SPeak ENgRISH OnLY!

ign:Apocrypha of Yzarc

W/

OQQTEVqWXiwYwgvwKIwItYXMAAA <---template/copy paste
warrior how easy ^^ nothing fancy nothing new,all u need is sword n staff for more energy if needed.
clasic SSkais solo farm build with vanguard skill, just let him get your healt down to 100 n use g.balance,repeat it until he gets low on healt - use riposte n deadly riposte or bonetti+ healing signet,dolyak. just riposte him to death with a lil help from vanguard skill (im lv5 btw). fast n easy dont care about knock down him or his spirits
good luck

Kronos Ledaloth

Kronos Ledaloth

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Italy

Spirits From Hell [SH]

E/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by chocubu
Just for people who needs help with this in the future.... (",)

One method that'll work with ALL CLASSES is as a Primary/Secondary NECROMANCER:-

SKILLS:
1) Animated Bone Minions
2) Animated Bone Horror
3) Animated Shambling Horror
4) Blood of the Master
5) Grenth's Balance
6) Anything (Preferably Energy Boost)
7) Anything (Preferably Energy Boost)
8) Anything (Preferably Energy Boost)

ATTRIBUTES: Death Magic as high as possible. Do whatever you want with the rest... Keep in mind that energy management is very important here.

WEAPON/ARMOR: Anything that gets your Energy to 50 and above...

STEPS:

Before the Glacial Griffon arrives/become hostile run to the wolves' corpses.

BEGIN CASTING:
1. Animated Bone Minion (2 Minions Total),
2. Animated Bone Horror (3 Minions Total),
3. Animated Shambling Horror (4 Minions Total),
4. Animated Bone Minion (6 Minions Total),
5. Animated Bone Horror (7 Minions Total),
6. Animated Gone Minions (9 Minions Total).

Don't bother healing your undeads before you get 7 or more of them. Concentrate on getting more minions first. Wait a while to gain energy if required. Don't worry, by the time you get 6-7 minions out, he won't be summoning any/too many spirits.

By the time you get 7-9 minions, he'll be too busy dealing damage to them to even worry about killing you.

Using Blood of the Master, heal your minions when you see their health going lower than 75%. Otherwise, don't waste too much energy. Keep up the healing until YOUR OWN health's pretty low. Use Grenth's Balance on the Griffon - it'll take a huge chunk of HP from it for yourself. Continue to heal your minions and use Grenth's Balance when YOUR HP is low.

Rinse and Repeat. He'll be wasted in no time.

Hope this helps... It's pretty simple, but you've gotta be fast, especially in the beginning.

Good luck!

Cheers. finally finished, ty so much

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

Degen from ranger, necro, or mesmer helps too, easy win. Just stay back.