Panda Bear

Pandala

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

Guam

R/Rt

Hi Everyone,
I'm new to Factions and in the Manuscript book they show a Panda Bear alongside a Ritualist. Is this a pet in the game or an enemy. I can't seem to find out anything about it?
Most Appreciative,

Pandala

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

The panda was originally going to be a pet in factions but for some reason anet couldn't put it in the game as a charmable pet.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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They made it into a mini pet. Don't mean to ruin your dreams, but there's no chance you will ever get one unless you give up your real life and farm like mad.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down
The panda was originally going to be a pet in factions but for some reason anet couldn't put it in the game as a charmable pet.
It wasn't put in because it's against the law and/or customs or something for any panda to be harmed in some countries where GW is sold, even if that harm happening to them is just in a video game.

So to answer your question, OP, no you will never see a panda pet capable of receiving damage or being hurt in any way in GW.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

There is some bizarre law in China banning all depictions of violence against pandas, even virtual violence. Seriously. Since GW sells in China, they decided it was easier to not make the pet at all. However, minipets can't be killed, so they're ok.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

It's the same idea of political correctness gone mad as with the AMAZING crane!!!
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Crane

And a thread with me bitching about it already!
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=421256

klrk

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Space Rangers

W/

remember the hippo in nightfall preview ????
they were removed too after it gone official

Pandala

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

Guam

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
They made it into a mini pet. Don't mean to ruin your dreams, but there's no chance you will ever get one unless you give up your real life and farm like mad.
LOL that's a funny comment Zeek about the farm.

How do I go about getting a mini pet?

Pandala

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

Guam

R/Rt

Thanks everyone for your help on my Panda question. Interesting info about China I wouldn't have even thought of that.
Thanks for helping a newbie out I appreciate it.

GUILD WARS ROCKS!

Pandala

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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i think ALL animals on the endagered species list cannot be killed in a video game.

so that'd rule out a few animals.
+the panda has some cultural significence in china

julien

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

At Guild wars

Mo/

Anyone did the panda mini quest [master] at the end of the dungeaon, Kinda hard, but for the mini is worth

Harmless

Harmless

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Uber Elite Rit Force of Justice Headquarters

What's a Guild? [LoL]

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That's pretty silly. I dare say if you look hard enough, you could eventually gather up enough people offended by something to eventually prove everything is offensive to someone somewhere at some point.

I assume it was an economic decision based on government officials in China saying the game couldn't be sold there unless it was changed. I sure hope they don't just randomly change things that offend a select group.

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

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Pandering to political correctness is just plain retarded! How is a videogame's depiction of violence against a panda any different from the same depiction of violence against a white tiger?

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by julien
Anyone did the panda mini quest [master] at the end of the dungeaon, Kinda hard, but for the mini is worth
what panda mini quest?

Croco Clouds

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

Hey but in Tekken, we can 'Harm' a Panda so why not in this game lol

P.S: I am Chinese too, I love panda as well

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Search the modding thread for a mod that replaces black bears with pandas.

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
Pandering to political correctness is just plain retarded! How is a videogame's depiction of violence against a panda any different from the same depiction of violence against a white tiger?
You should really investigate the situation to a much deeper level instead of making cliche ignorant comments.

It is not political correctness. It is actual LAW. Meaning, ANet cannot sell their MMO to the BIGGEST MMO industry in the world - China.

And describing the attitude of China towards pandas as being 'political correctness' reeks of ignorance. That is like saying India does not eat beef because they have a 'meat is murder' attitude.

Tahlia Tane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Oh my God, China is really ruining the world with their dictatorship-like trash.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

You have to honor peoples beliefs, even if they are daft.

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
Oh my God, China is really ruining the world with their dictatorship-like trash.
You are ruining this forum with stupidity like this.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
Oh my God, China is really ruining the world with their dictatorship-like trash.
.......how?
would you like elaborate?

how would you like if a cultural object like flag kicked or defiled

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dictatorships have many benefits over democracies. But this isnt for this thread.

There is a quest where you get a panda following you around.

Panda mini pets too but they are very expensive.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

The red frog quest in Cantha for rangers after getting your Ranger Insignia in Shing Jea has you using a Panda to track this frog...but the panda neither fights nor gets attacked...you can even just sit back at the beginning and wait for the NPC's to clear the quest for you...I died with my henchies on the bridge near where the quest ended and the npc's finished it for me.

Yeah, the Panda is a sacred animal in China. It would be financial suicide for Anet to allow a panda to be harmed in the game thus eliminating a large portion of their income.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

WTB HAXD PANDA!

it would be cool to see a pet panda vs a bear =D, but that would be harsh on people and thier beliefs, ah well cant win them all

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Yeah, the Panda is a sacred animal in China. It would be financial suicide for Anet to allow a panda to be harmed in the game thus eliminating a large portion of their income.
sacred animal? no its not . .. its just symbolic of china and is also an endangered species.

the animal rights groups are the ones that had problems with pandas dying and such in the game. though why they focused on pandas and not any of the other charmable pets we have in game, i have no idea.

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enko
sacred animal? no its not . .. its just symbolic of china and is also an endangered species.

the animal rights groups are the ones that had problems with pandas dying and such in the game. though why they focused on pandas and not any of the other charmable pets we have in game, i have no idea.
Animal rights group???

Where do you get this stuff?

WildmouseX

WildmouseX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
The red frog quest in Cantha for rangers after getting your Ranger Insignia in Shing Jea has you using a Panda to track this frog...but the panda neither fights nor gets attacked...you can even just sit back at the beginning and wait for the NPC's to clear the quest for you...I died with my henchies on the bridge near where the quest ended and the npc's finished it for me.

Yeah, the Panda is a sacred animal in China. It would be financial suicide for Anet to allow a panda to be harmed in the game thus eliminating a large portion of their income.
the wiki's do not list a mini panda for the reward for that quest, in fact they specifcly list how many mini panda's have been given away, where, and what had to be done to get one.....

unoffical wiki
Quote:
Reward
* 2500 XP
* 100 Gold
* Recurve Bow

Dmg: 11-17 (Requires 4 Marksmanship)
Damage +10% (while Health is above 50%)


from the offical wiki
Quote:
Acquisition

* Japan region
o Guild Wars Championship in Japan top 2 teams (8 members each)
* Taiwan region
o 1~49th signup to help newbies during first two weeks of Nightfall retail (49 were given)
o Nightfall title contest prizes (61 were given)
o GW 1st anniversary wallpaper contest prizes (10 total)
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Miniature_Panda


and again the unoffical
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Miniature

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WildmouseX
the wiki's do not list a mini panda for the reward for that quest, in fact they specifcly list how many mini panda's have been given away, where, and what had to be done to get one.....
*rolls eyes at all that erroneous research*
You never made a ranger in Factions and did that quest. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Red_Frog

There is a panda pet (NOT MINI pet) used by Sujun in that mission. No where does the guy who you quoted say you get a panda (mini or pet) from the mission. He just said one was in it.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
Animal rights group???

Where do you get this stuff?
from reading the gaming news when news of a possible panda ranger pet came out. this was back from before factions was released.

WildmouseX

WildmouseX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
*rolls eyes at all that erroneous research*
You never made a ranger in Factions and did that quest. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Red_Frog

There is a panda pet (NOT MINI pet) used by Sujun in that mission. No where does the guy who you quoted say you get a panda (mini or pet) from the mission. He just said one was in it.
it was infered on page 1 by another poster, didn't notice it was a different person so your right, A11 sry bout that (and get an avatar so you don't blend in with all the other rejects!).

Quote:
Originally Posted by julien
Anyone did the panda mini quest [master] at the end of the dungeaon, Kinda hard, but for the mini is worth
a mini panda would make a hard quest worth it,,,,,,,,, but nothing in the rewards list makes a hard quest worth anything, unless your sofa king we todd ed that looking at digital panda's gets you off ( in which case may i suggest you go get zoo tycoon, or roller coaster tycoon 3 wild - and go nuts.)

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Oh I was so about to type up an angry response to that....but then I read down.

Avatar...gotta find one.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
Pandering to political correctness is just plain retarded! How is a videogame's depiction of violence against a panda any different from the same depiction of violence against a white tiger?
Its not political correctness, its actually illegal (as in against the law) in China to depict any violence against panda's. That has nothing to do with political correctness.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

This is a similar case with why ID's Wolfenstein 3D was not allowed to use the Swastika in their video game, due to Germany's law against it.

It shows a company's sensitivity to other cultures and their views.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
Oh my God, China is really ruining the world with their dictatorship-like trash.
China has the world's fastest growing economy and from what I hear they will surpass USA soon. It's only a matter of time. So if China is "ruining" the world with their "trash" they sure as damn hell are doing an excellent job about it.

Tahlia Tane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by byteme!
China has the world's fastest growing economy and from what I hear they will surpass USA soon. It's only a matter of time. So if China is "ruining" the world with their "trash" they sure as damn hell are doing an excellent job about it.
Oh come on, mang. You KNOW what I'm talking about. They are already starting to poison us with their products. LITERALLY. Their toys have too much lead in the paint!

Dear God. Toys, man. TOYS!! THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL US WITH TOYS.

WE'RE !@*(&@%^!@# DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

In all seriousness Arenanet went way too far with this.

Now I'm sure China has it's beleifs and or customs about Pandas, but that's just rediculous. I have a respect for people's beleifs and customs, but this is a virtual game with a virtual pet. That's just plain rediculous.

Tahlia Tane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
In all seriousness Arenanet went way too far with this.

Now I'm sure China has it's beleifs and or customs about Pandas, but that's just rediculous. I have a respect for people's beleifs and customs, but this is a virtual game with a virtual pet. That's just plain rediculous.
I don't see what's so ridiculous with complying with rules and regulation.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Yep, the law is the law.

And... well, as a political science expert don't bash if you don't know what you are talking about.

Coraline Jones

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Modified Soul Society

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier
It's the same idea of political correctness gone mad as with the AMAZING crane!!!
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Crane

And a thread with me bitching about it already!
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=421256
Wow, I missed this post. Like you, I was so sorely disappointed when ArenaNet took away my red-crowned crane, which really exists in the real world, and turned it into... Well, I don't know what the heck it is now.

I am Asian and I know the lore behind these cranes. They are considered extremely lucky animals, and they are on the endangered species list. Then again, almost all of the animals that you can keep for pets are somewhat endangered or at least protected by governments. I mean, you can't just shoot an American crocodile with a Florida game warden standing next to you.

As for it dying, well, that's pretty sad that the animal rights groups (or whatever) had to step in and force a change.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

We can't have a Panda pet for the same reason the Flags in PvP aren't American flags. Could you imagine casting SF on the Flagrunner and how many people would get offended?
Sarcasm, by the way.