This game is out of proportion...

geriand

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

A Guild Better than Yours

Me/N

When I look at MMORPG players I class them in 2-ways.
1)Those with lives
2)Those without lives

the previous games were nicely balanced between the two. We had Prestige armour for those without lives and 1k armour for those with. To get something grinding wasn't really necessary and you could play the game to have fun.

Now we have GW:EN. All of the armour is 10k a piece. 75 ectos for chaos gloves!! i.e Rip off I would like a pair of chaos gloves but it is just a waste of money. Its like when you go to the shops do you buy the £5 2litre bottle of milk
or the £2.50 1.5 litre bottle of milk which is on BOGOF.

This game has become a hardcore grindfest, and while I may be content slaughtering charr at polymock atm i do want some of these nice new collectables and common armour sets. Can't GW make them easier for the casual gamer to get. I understand why people use bots now as i look at the prices for all of this so called "coimmon armour".

Endow Gee

Endow Gee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ascalon City, Tyrian

Khight Of Imortallity

W/A

Dude it’s an “EXPANSION” for “PROPHECIES” that means if you want the cheap armor buy it from Drokes!! Come on common sense!!
For the rest of you who complaints about the armor “DON’T”. ANET is not telling you all to buy the armors. You should be thankful that they even have a new set of armor and 40 of them. The design on armor is not important to them, just look at the GWEN design it’s RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING BEAUTIFUL.

For rare materials: Ecto’s & Shards are now easy to farm everyone can access UW anytime they want with favor in the ENTIRE world. (I don’t think it’s ever going to end). So zipped it and just enjoy the game.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

You made two threads, goodjob. Someone delete this.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Endow Gee
Dude it’s an “EXPANSION” for “PROPHECIES” that means if you want the cheap armor buy it from Drokes!! Come on common sense!!
For the rest of you who complaints about the armor “DON’T”. ANET is not telling you all to buy the armors. You should be thankful that they even have a new set of armor and 40 of them. The design on armor is not important to them, just look at the GWEN design it’s RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING BEAUTIFUL.

For rare materials: Ecto’s & Shards are now easy to farm everyone can access UW anytime they want with favor in the ENTIRE world. (I don’t think it’s ever going to end). So zipped it and just enjoy the game. It's an expansion for prophecies? Then why can I play it without prophecies? Do you know what expansion means?

Thankful that Anet is giving me armors? HELLO??? You are acting like Anet said "Hey guys, we are going to put free armor sets in all your inventories". I, like the OP, PAID for the game, but in order to access one of the most fun features, have to GRIND, unlike other games where I could do the same things WITHOUT grinding. If anet isn't telling you to buy armors, why make them? You make absolutely no sense... say anet decides to add 40 new armor sets, all of which cost 100k+500 ecto per piece. You pay 40 dollars for your expansion, hyped up to get some new armor, and BAM! You realize you will NEVER set your hands on it. Well to the casual player, the current grind-title+cost=RIDICULOUS, just as that is ridiculous to you.

Ectos and shards are easy to farm? Great! So what do people with lives do?

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
Ectos and shards are easy to farm? Great! So what do people with lives do? Get Droks armor. Oh, and stop bumping this thread please.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
Get Droks armor. Oh, and stop bumping this thread please. So because we have lives, we can't access the armor in the game we paid 40 bucks for?

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Why even bother making the dungeons and monsters? Just roll up the credits & rewards when you make a character. Cause you know how some of us casuals don't have time to clear area and still want the endgame items

Zabe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In world with nothing to do except poker

W/Rt

Why you whine? The title needed to the armors is ridiculously easy. Doesn't need any kind of hard core grinding like FoW's do. And why you talk bullshit about chaos gloves? They are made to look cool, and cost much, but hey, whiners need to whine from everything. Soon you gonna say that FoW set is too expensive? And yes, for last thing, this is a expansion for 20 lvl characters, you get tons of money from doing dungeons (30-60 minutes each, depends how nub you are) and other areas and titles by the same. I got only like 16k asura points just doing asura side primary quests + dungeons, not much needed to "grind" anymore.

Endow Gee

Endow Gee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ascalon City, Tyrian

Khight Of Imortallity

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
It's an expansion for prophecies? Then why can I play it without prophecies? Do you know what expansion means?

Thankful that Anet is giving me armors? HELLO??? You are acting like Anet said "Hey guys, we are going to put free armor sets in all your inventories". I, like the OP, PAID for the game, but in order to access one of the most fun features, have to GRIND, unlike other games where I could do the same things WITHOUT grinding. If anet isn't telling you to buy armors, why make them? You make absolutely no sense... say anet decides to add 40 new armor sets, all of which cost 100k+500 ecto per piece. You pay 40 dollars for your expansion, hyped up to get some new armor, and BAM! You realize you will NEVER set your hands on it. Well to the casual player, the current grind-title+cost=RIDICULOUS, just as that is ridiculous to you.

Ectos and shards are easy to farm? Great! So what do people with lives do?
That is the point! you have to earn the points in order for you to get the armor!
Lives? I work full time "JOB" and taking care of my little daughter and still able to take my wife to go shopping and do all the things we need to do. so dont tell me about lives.
Play it smart dont be a dummy. If you complaint about it then STOP PLAYING GW AND PLAY COUNTER STRIKE OR SOMETHING ELSE!.
Yes! ANET made the armor for people who has patient to get the points (on desire armor or either way youll end up getting all the points the longer you play the game) BTW ANET is not telling you to buy the game.
100k + 500 ectyos your just over reacting. the requirements for does armor is not that hard to get.

well since you dont know WTF is Prophecies about then i wont say anything. Yes your able to play Gwen without Prophecies. But my whole point is the game is made for Prophecies not factions or Nightfall.

Thank you!

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
So because we have lives, we can't access the armor in the game we paid 40 bucks for? It's awesome how "we have lives" has come up in every single one of your posts! Hey, you know what? I think we're the ones with lives here as we can see it's just a d*mn game and not worth QQ'ing over, whereas you probably plan to live in it or something. Carry on.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

So basically you want the nice stuff without working for it?

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

i work 10 hours aday, and i still manage to get things done NP .. just takes longer than others..

your not ganna get everything done in 1st day of release..

TabascoSauce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Virginia, US

TFgt

W/Me

Hold on a second. The OP, and Series, are making the justified and factual statement that they have other priorities that take up their time, besides this game. That is fact. Everyone does - if you are jobless and independently wealthy, then good for you - you can play day and night. Everyone else has to make decisions where to spend their time.

They are indirectly stating that this game is basically a short campaign, with a grind endgame that gives in-game rewards designed to extend the products "longevity". Fact? Yeah.

The primary complaint of the OP and Series is to highlight the expensive nature of the endgame rewards, and that they will probably never have the time to grind to get them. I'd agree with that statement and label it fact.

Here is where you nutjobs who are attacking them fall down. You make it an all-or-nothing situation, as opposed to discussing the problem. Look at Guru - how many threads have "grind" in the title?

I will quote another thread here, a piece of wisdom from Zubrowka:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zubrowka
Grinders are basically workaholics. They think they're playing a game but what they really want is a work simulator. Getting "rewards" for time and labor spent--that's the very definition of work. There's no way you can get around that. If you want be "rewarded" from spending time in a game, then it's no longer a game: it is work. Real gamers don't want work. They play games to have fun. The diconomy presented by the OP between hardcore gamers vs. casual ones is bogus. People don't want to grind not because they're casual. They don't want to grind because it's freaking stupid. If you feel that we should have to work work workity work Mcwork to get the in-game rewards, then state so. One of you has, I believe. The fact that ANet has chosen to make the title tracks by character and not account shows their intent to have players grinding to get the rewards. You work monkeys can have all the fun you want, because they made a game just for you, a work simulator. Attacking with an all-or-nothing attitude anyone with a different opinion shows the lack of depth of your thought on this matter. If you'd given it some thought, you'd realize that life is shades of grey. Feh.

Thanks!
TabascoSauce

Cryshal

Cryshal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ah yes, TobascoSauce, someone finally posts some common sense. And I love your choice of words, like nutjobs, hehe.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Endow Gee
Dude it’s an “EXPANSION” for “PROPHECIES” that means if you want the cheap armor buy it from Drokes!! Come on common sense!!
For the rest of you who complaints about the armor “DON’T”. ANET is not telling you all to buy the armors. You should be thankful that they even have a new set of armor and 40 of them. The design on armor is not important to them, just look at the GWEN design it’s RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING BEAUTIFUL.

For rare materials: Ecto’s & Shards are now easy to farm everyone can access UW anytime they want with favor in the ENTIRE world. (I don’t think it’s ever going to end). So zipped it and just enjoy the game. I contest the word new.

Seriously some of those reskins are hideously ugly.

Warrior Monument being the outstanding piece of shite.
It's just a jumble of old armor pieces put together with no unified aethetic.
Looks terrible.

So disappointed with some of those armors.

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

What the op is trying to say without sounding silly, is he would like all, armour, weapons, skills, titles, heros, and gold.Now can I ask what you want?
Do you realy think there would be many people playing if there wernt goals in this game or many people that would start because word of mouth.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
So because we have lives, we can't access the armor in the game we paid 40 bucks for? It was a partially sarcastic way of saying shut up and stop whining. Please refer to the posts about people with jobs still getting everything they want over time.

Vanessa Dwager

Vanessa Dwager

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

Hey guys lets call our mothers and cry to them so big old a-net won't make me work a little bit for armor we don't need and whine about how all this supposed grind take away the game when we don't look at the minigames or dungeon system.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by onerabbit
your not ganna get everything done in 1st day of release.. Good point. How many of you got Vabbian or any 15k (lets say, Kurzick one) in first 3 days? It's not that hard to get points - Yesterday I had under 1k Vanguard faction, now I have almost 8k. My point is? Do quests and dungeons, damn it! Don't cry about ,,too high ranks''. If I can get 8k points, then anyone can.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

This is a really stupid thread...and everyone else seems to agree.

Closed.