Not so pleased with GW:EN, dissapointed even.

Concerned Guildy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

TEXAS

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I have been playing Guild Wars for almost as long as it has been out. I own any and everything that NCSoft has allowed people to buy that involves Guild Wars, so I like the game a lot. I expected a lot out of this game but I feel that it fell short. First of all, the big seller for this game was going to be new armor, weapons, and bridging the gap between GW 1 and GW 2. The story line is nice and enjoyable. I feel that Guild Wars turned out great for that. My complaints come with the armor, weapons, and titles.
The armor is a big loss. There is not much new about it. Most of the armor looks like other armors. You have to play for a very long time before you are allowed to buy it and then the fact that it costs so much, you have to save everything you get and that within itself will take a long time since earning money in Guild Wars takes so long.
The weapons are nice so far, a lot of them use skins from previous campaigns but there are a few new ones.
The titles are fun but not worth earning except for the armor which more and more people are complaining about as they get the capability to purchase it. The titles that you earn are only usable in the area they are earned in. An example: Earning the Norn title only helps and benefits one that uses the Norn title in the Norn lands. If you leave the lands to say... anywhere, the blessing from the title is no longer allowed. My problem with this is that this game does not benefit any of the other campaigns much. I thought that it would be beneficial to benefit the players that all ready play the game by offering blessings or skills that can be used outside of Eye of the North.
The skills earned are usable, but just as the other PvE only skills; they are short lived and easily forgotten. There is not much need to have PvE only skills if people won't even use them in PvE because the skills are more of a wasted slot than a benefit to the game.
I have heard from some players that GW should not make the game have capabilities to be easier because it might then be too easy and become boring. Well, I thought that was why Hard Mode was intoduced so that players that thought GW was too easy for them would have more of a difficult time playing?
All in all, GWEN turned out to be a nice expansion to teach us all about the story line. The problem is that the "special features and new material" turned out to not be very impressive. I feel that GW has let a lot of people down in that way and I do not believe that GWEN will be as remembered as Prophecies or Nightfall.

tangtong

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/Mo

Ah shut up and just go on a threat that is already made please

blueone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I just can't believe the amount of people complaining over how the freaking armour looks. Who gives a crap? Except for the vain, of course.

Floski

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Rank Three Plus Pug [deer]

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Prepare for flames from fanboys who have nothing but "if you don't like it don't play it" forgetting that you paid $40+ for it. Anet screws up. I know it's amazing, but the fanboys have to get over the fact that the game isn't perfect and plenty of people have tons of legit complaints.

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The armour complaints are valid...I think many would like some really nice armour to showcase their chars with.

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueone
I just can't believe the amount of people complaining over how the freaking armour looks. Who gives a crap? Except for the vain, of course. Most people do actually. That is why there are so many different sets of armor in Guild Wars. ArenaNet knows its customers, and clearly you do not. I guess that makes everybody vain then.

Kinn

Kinn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Englandshire, England.

The International Association of Mending Wammos

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Eh, I don't give a hoot about the armour, anything more expensive than Drok's is a waste of money in my opinion. I don't find farming or power selling fun. The little money I do save up goes on real stuff like elite tomes or weapon mods.

That said, I'm dissappointed with GW:EN's lack of challenge when just running a cookie-cutter hero/hench setup. For some reason Anet chose to push PvE towards a primarily single-player experience. This is a highly flawed concept, when you, the player, are just one in a team of 8, and with the right hero/hench setup you can pretty much C-Space then AFK through most mobs, because now with more hero combinations possible and better henchman skillbars, 7 AI and you doing nothing is still pretty sodding powerful.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

Lol, 10-15k armour is a waste of money, but you'll pay about the same for an elite skill tome when you can get the skill yourself for 1k? Right...

Thom The Brawler

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/Mo

It would be nice if some MOD could take all these CRY ME A RIVER threads and merge them all together. It's becoming nothing but forum litter at this point.

Zubrowka

Zubrowka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by blueone
I just can't believe the amount of people complaining over how the freaking armour looks. Who gives a crap? Except for the vain, of course. You're oversimplifying things. Those who crave good looking armours, I think, are driven by a deep-seated psychological need. As young boys, they weren't allowed to play with dolls, because societal expectation, even through that's what they really wanted. GW gives them a chance now to fulfill this long-repressed desire, in a context that doesn't call into question their sexuality. It's liberating and healthy.

Thom The Brawler

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zubrowka
You're oversimplifying things. Those who crave good looking armours, I think, are driven by a deep-seated psychological need. As young boys, they weren't allowed to play with dolls, because societal expectation, even through that's what they really wanted. GW gives them a chance now to fulfill this long-repressed desire, in a context that doesn't call into question their sexuality. It's liberating and healthy. FTW(mandatory 12 spaces)

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinn
This is a highly flawed concept, when you, the player, are just one in a team of 8, and with the right hero/hench setup you can pretty much C-Space then AFK through most mobs, because now with more hero combinations possible and better henchman skillbars, 7 AI and you doing nothing is still pretty sodding powerful. I'm doing that right now as I type this. Grinding for asura points is no fun at all so I figure i'll let the ai do the work for me.

Kinn

Kinn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Englandshire, England.

The International Association of Mending Wammos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kazjun
Lol, 10-15k armour is a waste of money, but you'll pay about the same for an elite skill tome when you can get the skill yourself for 1k? Right... Yeah you're right. 10k is too much. I guess it's more cost-effective for me to just spend the next month ploughing my brand new necro through the Prophecies campaign so I can cap Aura of the Lich.

Cheers for the tip

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

There are plenty of legitiment things to complaign about in GW:EN, but armor isn't one of them.

Blkout

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

GW:EoN is one boring grindfest in summary. Highly dissapointed here also. It just doesn't feel exciting at all.

Concerned Guildy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

TEXAS

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zubrowka
You're oversimplifying things. Those who crave good looking armours, I think, are driven by a deep-seated psychological need. As young boys, they weren't allowed to play with dolls, because societal expectation, even through that's what they really wanted. GW gives them a chance now to fulfill this long-repressed desire, in a context that doesn't call into question their sexuality. It's liberating and healthy. That is one of the funniest things I have read in a while. Thank you Zubrowka!

I would like to add to this that I care about the armor because I do dress my characters up and I like it. If I am going to spend hours looking at my characters, I want them to look good.

That being said, to all those that love to tell everyone else that they are wrong and should not complain... Why are you on the forums? This is a place for people to talk about their thoughts, opinions, and ideas about the game. This is not meant to be a place for people to run around and bash others opinions just because you are behind a desk and you know that no one will do anything about it. I have my opinions and you have yours, thank you to all that have shared their thoughts/opinions about the game; not about whether one person is right or wrong.

Thom The Brawler

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Concerned Guildy
That is one of the funniest things I have read in a while. Thank you Zubrowka!

I would like to add to this that I care about the armor because I do dress my characters up and I like it. If I am going to spend hours looking at my characters, I want them to look good.

That being said, to all those that love to tell everyone else that they are wrong and should not complain... Why are you on the forums? This is a place for people to talk about their thoughts, opinions, and ideas about the game. This is not meant to be a place for people to run around and bash others opinions just because you are behind a desk and you know that no one will do anything about it. I have my opinions and you have yours, thank you to all that have shared their thoughts/opinions about the game; not about whether one person is right or wrong. I have no problem with the OP's opinion or with him stating it on the forum, I just think it's sad that all these people with the same old gripe think they should open yet another thread instead adding it to one of the other dozen identical threads. It's not like anything new was added to this forum with this thread.

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
I have no problem with the OP's opinion or with him stating it on the forum, I just think it's sad that all these people with the same old gripe think they should open yet another thread instead adding it to one of the other dozen identical threads. It's not like anything new was added to this forum with this thread. And for the people that agrees with ANET that isn't something new either, so why do you people need to post aswell?

Well99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Nix Guild (NG)

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thom The Brawler
It would be nice if some MOD could take all these CRY ME A RIVER threads and merge them all together. It's becoming nothing but forum litter at this point. So I guess it is ok for you to cry about others crying?I could care less about armor.I used Droks thru 4 games.Still people have the right to have their say.Until they make you Dictator for Life at GWGuru people have the right to post their opinion.Anet views post on forums to see how people feel about the game.Good,bad or indifferent.

camulus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

R/N

Love the story
Love the scenery and the enemy
Love the change, and some of the concepts


The one thing I hate about it this update is that they have made it so you HAVE NO CHOICE but to grind, kill similar things again and again to access some of the services (armour etc) in the game.

Thats fine for your first character, but if you like to play them all , it gets very tiring and very tedious very fast.

At the very most I will choose one of my other professions to take through , but just like factions, the compulsory grinding turns me off completely.

Personally I am presuming that they are trying to keep people occupied in the game by requiring the grinding, so that they dont leave Guild wars and play other things before GW2.

All I can say is I will only update one of the four main accounts I use, and Anet lost $90 of my money by doing what they did.

You only need to have 1000 more like me out of the millions that play to see they lost $90,000 or more from their game play design.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

It's a great expansion. I don't know where everybody is getting the impression of a so-called "grind", the expansion only came out just last weekend, and people are already complaining they can't get the high-end armors because they can't reach r5 Reps in just a few days...

Angelica

Angelica

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Aussie land

Me/E

If the "grind" is only required to get new armours ..... well it is fine by me because, I don't care much about armours.
What I have already satisfy my vanity and, if I really want a new one, I will have plenty of time to get it!

What I noticed in EotN is the scarcity of drops, even white one! No gold coins either, and the purple items you get from chests are #@@%##!!! Not worth the cost of lokspick.
I reached the conclusion that I'll be never surprised/pleased by a really nice drops again. Pity tho.

I think GW-EotN is a beautifull game with breathtaking scenaries, it makes me feeling the same way as the first time I started Prophecies in pre-searing!

/Angelica

Blkout

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo™
It's a great expansion. I don't know where everybody is getting the impression of a so-called "grind", the expansion only came out just last weekend, and people are already complaining they can't get the high-end armors because they can't reach r5 Reps in just a few days... You seem to forget that PvE skills rely on that Rep also. I'm sure you meant to say that before you put your foot in your mouth.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blkout
You seem to forget that PvE skills rely on that Rep also. I'm sure you meant to say that before you put your foot in your mouth. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...94&postcount=7

no foot needed, thank you.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thom The Brawler
It would be nice if some MOD could take all these CRY ME A RIVER threads and merge them all together. It's becoming nothing but forum litter at this point.
This is like saying "I support cleaning our ocean and getting rid of pollution!", and simultaneously dumping your junk into a lake. GG.

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I think GW-EotN is a beautifull game with breathtaking scenaries, it makes me feeling the same way as the first time I started Prophecies in pre-searing! I think if I wanted to see breathtaking pictures I'd go to an art museum. Games are about playing and, in the rpg case, advancing your character in different ways. SO the logic of scenery doesn't really cut it for me.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
This is like saying "I support cleaning our ocean and getting rid of pollution!", and simultaneously dumping your junk into a lake. GG.
If there's a way we can get rid of them entirely, do let us know. Otherwise that lake will just have to do, at least the rest of us surfers wouldn't have to put up with the filth.


Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
I think if I wanted to see breathtaking pictures I'd go to an art museum. Games are about playing and, in the rpg case, advancing your character in different ways. SO the logic of scenery doesn't really cut it for me. Not logic, it's difference of opinion. I think sceneries, gameplay and just about every factor in a game are all just as important. A little bit of shit is all it takes to ruin a barrel of whine.

lord dragon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo™
It's a great expansion. I don't know where everybody is getting the impression of a so-called "grind", the expansion only came out just last weekend, and people are already complaining they can't get the high-end armors because they can't reach r5 Reps in just a few days... I don't play GW for hours upon hours a day. I play to enjoy the game. When the game turns into a grind, I usually find something else to do. This is the reason I do not play WOW or other games like it. GW bills itself as a non grind game in the past. This has changed. You may not look at it as a grind, and for you it is not. I respect that.

For me, I look at $40 wasted. I have 1 character through the game to ensure I was accurate in my descriptions. For me, I am. It was a waste or time and money. The FUN value is not there for me. I will not take my other characters through the game, no reason when I can get all the skills I want right in the beginning.

As for the titles, I have no desire to even try for them. Heros? I have plenty of them already, why bother going through and opening up even more? Play areas, well, I have already said enough in other posts about that and how disapointing they are. Chests that require lock picks? I think I will take my chances on hard mode, better drops that are more useful.

So, with all of that said, I will not be playing EON as it sucks to me. It is not FUN, has no useful skills that I can't live without, is a waste of time in grinding that I swore I would never do again in a game.

I look forward to GW2 as from what I am being told is being done by the Prophecies/Nightfall team. I hope this is true as both were fine products that I felt I would pay a whole lot more for the fun I get. This expansion is disapointing. The graphics are great and I look forward to DX10 graphics in GW2.

See you in the other 3 areas as this is where I will be. Where the game is fun and I enjoy myself.

Just one quesiton for you that I asked in another thread, do you work for ANET? Asking only as you support the whole game completly without seeing any flaw that I have seen you post about.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord dragon
I don't play GW for hours upon hours a day. I play to enjoy the game. When the game turns into a grind, I usually find something else to do. This is the reason I do not play WOW or other games like it. GW bills itself as a non grind game in the past. This has changed. You may not look at it as a grind, and for you it is not. I respect that.

For me, I look at $40 wasted. I have 1 character through the game to ensure I was accurate in my descriptions. For me, I am. It was a waste or time and money. The FUN value is not there for me. I will not take my other characters through the game, no reason when I can get all the skills I want right in the beginning.

As for the titles, I have no desire to even try for them. Heros? I have plenty of them already, why bother going through and opening up even more? Play areas, well, I have already said enough in other posts about that and how disapointing they are. Chests that require lock picks? I think I will take my chances on hard mode, better drops that are more useful.

So, with all of that said, I will not be playing EON as it sucks to me. It is not FUN, has no useful skills that I can't live without, is a waste of time in grinding that I swore I would never do again in a game.

I look forward to GW2 as from what I am being told is being done by the Prophecies/Nightfall team. I hope this is true as both were fine products that I felt I would pay a whole lot more for the fun I get. This expansion is disapointing. The graphics are great and I look forward to DX10 graphics in GW2.

See you in the other 3 areas as this is where I will be. Where the game is fun and I enjoy myself.

Just one quesiton for you that I asked in another thread, do you work for ANET? Asking only as you support the whole game completly without seeing any flaw that I have seen you post about. and here's your answer: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0&postcount=83

I think it's a matter of difference in goals, I don't care for high tier titles, I certainly won't be making an ordeal to get them. I already had my share of grind... for my Fow armor.

Grind isn't fun, but its a synonym for "work", as anything we wan't in life takes some "Grinding" to get to. We go to work, we grind, and it overloads on us when we become fixed on the goal that we forget to just take a chill pill, and relax. It's not a competition... that's PvP, and this... is PvE. Everything you can achieve for will always be there, and it's the rush to be #1 ASAP that's whats sending us to the battlefields 3 am in the morning.

When the game becomes work, we need to take a break from the break itself.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord dragon
I just hope that people don't judge GW by EON. That you can't judge for them. What if they're like me? What if they would've loved the game as I did?

They have to try it out for themselves to be the judge. If you ask me, I say it's worth the money, but neither of us can indoctrinate that opinion on anyone else.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Well, this game has been out for 4-5 days. Based on the initial half-thought reactions towards Nightfall and Factions, I'd say that we'd expect everything that was said in all threads like these become totally irrelevant in about a month. What a bore...

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo™
It's a great expansion. I don't know where everybody is getting the impression of a so-called "grind", the expansion only came out just last weekend, and people are already complaining they can't get the high-end armors because they can't reach r5 Reps in just a few days... Whether they do it in 2 days or 20 days, the total amount of real time spent actually doing the repetitive mob grinding is the same, so I don't see how that is relevant.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by blueone
I just can't believe the amount of people complaining over how the freaking armour looks. Who gives a crap? Except for the vain, of course. AND THE GIRLS! oh wait...we usually are vain. But seriously, for me the armour is the best part of the game, it makes the grind and the farming worth while. If I didn't have anythign good to work towards (like armour) I'd just stop playing, and I know a lot of people are just like me. If enough of us stopped playing it simply wouldn't be economically viable to even keep GW running anymore, so honestly, making crappy armour was a REALLY bad move...

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gigashadow
Whether they do it in 2 days or 20 days, the total amount of real time spent actually doing the repetitive mob grinding is the same, so I don't see how that is relevant. because killing 10,000 monsters in 4 days will feel more like a grind than killing 100,000 monsters over the course of 4 weeks, doing dungeons, finishing missions, and doing random quests.

If you're grinding for the sake of grinding, then there's no way around it, but most of the stuff that requires you to grind are not time sensitive, nor are they so mandatory. It's when you're rushing to get something are you forced to sit down, ignore everything else, and just do that boring thing. Why the rush?

Vlaamse Leeuw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

LSL

E/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelica
If the "grind" is only required to get new armours ..... well it is fine by me because, I don't care much about armours.
What I have already satisfy my vanity and, if I really want a new one, I will have plenty of time to get it!

What I noticed in EotN is the scarcity of drops, even white one! No gold coins either, and the purple items you get from chests are #@@%##!!! Not worth the cost of lokspick.
I reached the conclusion that I'll be never surprised/pleased by a really nice drops again. Pity tho.

I think GW-EotN is a beautifull game with breathtaking scenaries, it makes me feeling the same way as the first time I started Prophecies in pre-searing!

/Angelica Graphics of GWEN : OK
Getting Armor in GWEN : FAIL
(imagine getting new armor for my 10 char's...)
Bonuses from titles : FAIL
Hall of monuments : FAIL
(not necessary at all)
Story of GWEN : OK
New weapons skins : OK
Droprate : BIG FAIL

That's the reason I quoted the post bove. Used about 50 lockpicks by now and oh boy, big OMG feeling. Wellcounted 6 crappy Golds, old skins btw, rest purple crap. 1.5k for 1 key too get totally crap.... Common Anet, either chance the cost for lockpicks or place other chests. "Vanquished" every spot now with guildies, not a single green for no1. I looked forward too new weaponsskins but with droprates like this I can w8 till GW2 comes out too find a nice item...

Some peeps are disappointed in armors, some in titles, well I can understand that, after 2 years gameplay its hard too make something fresh and new but damn for Christs sake they can surely work on droprates. They changed dropsystem so that money is harder too get, but with droprates for weapons like this the price too pay if U want such item isn't low either. Some peeps will laugh now and think, dude just use a bot. Well I am not laughing,I dont use bots or have every day free too play. Asking around in our guild, I figured out most of the guy's were complaining too about the droprates and I bet a lot more peeps. So if u ask me if GWEN is good , I'd say: I've seen better, much better before...

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

I agree with the post above me in the fact that Anet makes earning money soo hard but still charges a arm and a leg for items as well as keep nerfing the drop rates just because Bots are Farming to death how bout they give us a larger droprate and start focusing more on stoping the bot expliotation
Take UW for example i Dual run with a 55or 105 monk and ss clear to the point where their are no more monsters that are reachable do 2-3 spider quests if we have the people we to the spider capping service and still only yeald 1-2 ectos if that anymore seems as of latley the ectos have been getting scarcer i mean when you do 3-5 full complete runs and get no ectos whats the point in the UW anymore for that matter whats the point in Farming at all if the Drops/Loot/Money earned is not worth the Time invested thats just my opninion they seem to have changed the drops and loot prices to fix the Price scalling but failed since people are stil trying to rip noobs off with outragous prices changing the droprate seems trivial to how many people try to get some crazy price from a item knowing its not worth that much just cause they feel like riping some poor newbie off, that does not seem right and these are the same people who complain about prices its a loop
the problem is that all the people chargin and paying outragous prices seem to complain about it but dont change their ways which leads to no change in price scalling which in turn means Anets attempts to bring prices down are futitle



Camulus Great Point I posted mine in another thread but its the same jist Anet And the Company Nscoft love Money dont charge a monthy fee but dont release the game people would like to see which in turn=loss of money Anet needs to work on getting a few more smart people incharge of these things and they cant say money is a issue due to your statment
Here is Anets Head/head in Dirt righting with pen on Legal Documents hey he signed it seems it works send it to the prints!!!!
A little joke their for you guys hope you see the point


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"AND THE GIRLS! oh wait...we usually are vain. But seriously, for me the armour is the best part of the game, it makes the grind and the farming worth while. If I didn't have anythign good to work towards (like armour) I'd just stop playing, and I know a lot of people are just like me. If enough of us stopped playing it simply wouldn't be economically viable to even keep GW running anymore, so honestly, making crappy armour was a REALLY bad move... "

the fact is not alot of people care about armor and the statment GW would not be economicall viable is just ingornent pardon spelling people who play to get armor only consist of maby 10% of the Gw commnuity Their is not enough armor diversity to simply play for that one reason.

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
I agree with the post above me in the fact that Anet makes earning money soo hard but still charges a arm and a leg for items as well as keep nerfing the drop rates just because Bots are Farming to death how bout they give us a larger droprate and start focusing more on stoping the bot expliotation
Take UW for example i Dual run with a 55or 105 monk and ss clear to the point where their are no more monsters that are reachable do 2-3 spider quests if we have the people we to the spider capping service and still only yeald 1-2 ectos if that anymore seems as of latley the ectos have been getting scarcer i mean when you do 3-5 full complete runs and get no ectos whats the point in the UW anymore for that matter whats the point in Farming at all if the Drops/Loot/Money earned is not worth the Time invested thats just my opninion they seem to have changed the drops and loot prices to fix the Price scalling but failed since people are stil trying to rip noobs off with outragous prices changing the droprate seems trivial to how many people try to get some crazy price from a item knowing its not worth that much just cause they feel like riping some poor newbie off, that does not seem right and these are the same people who complain about prices its a loop
the problem is that all the people chargin and paying outragous prices seem to complain about it but dont change their ways which leads to no change in price scalling which in turn means Anets attempts to bring prices down are futitle



Camulus Great Point I posted mine in another thread but its the same jist Anet And the Company Nscoft love Money dont charge a monthy fee but dont release the game people would like to see which in turn=loss of money Anet needs to work on getting a few more smart people incharge of these things and they cant say money is a issue due to your statment
Here is Anets Head/head in Dirt righting with pen on Legal Documents hey he signed it seems it works send it to the prints!!!!
A little joke their for you guys hope you see the point


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"AND THE GIRLS! oh wait...we usually are vain. But seriously, for me the armour is the best part of the game, it makes the grind and the farming worth while. If I didn't have anythign good to work towards (like armour) I'd just stop playing, and I know a lot of people are just like me. If enough of us stopped playing it simply wouldn't be economically viable to even keep GW running anymore, so honestly, making crappy armour was a REALLY bad move... "

the fact is not alot of people care about armor and the statment GW would not be economicall viable is just ingornent pardon spelling people who play to get armor only consist of maby 10% of the Gw commnuity Their is not enough armor diversity to simply play for that one reason. I've got to say, that is one impressive run on sentence. But if I read your post right, I think I agree with you. People like to play RPGs to experience the story, advance their characters, feel the hero, and gather awesome loot from beating up on bad guys. The story in Guild Wars I so-so, there is no character advancement (which we were told would happen in GW:EN), you don't feel the hero because you are so dependent on other people, and they keep taking away more and more loot. The armor in GW:EN could have been the greatest armor that they had come up with yet, but unless you are lucky enough to find a "rare weapon" and then even luckier to find a buyer or just like to power trade, you can't get the money to get the new armors.