Just wondering if anyone knows why the Mantids in the Dalada Uplands keep rising from the dead? They get back into the fight with a small amount of health and sometimes it takes me two times before they stay down for good.
No one is resurrecting them, so what could be causing this? It's very annoying when trying to engage another mob. Thanks in advance!
Mantids in Charr Lands: A Question
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Corwin_Andros
Several people have noticed that, including myself. Not sure why it's happening and really having dealt with it, it isn't a big deal. Funny enough the thing usually pops up in the midst of a mess of minions just as I'm moving off to find the next mob or whatever and I simply see a momentary blip that goes away before I can properly react to it.
OlMurraniKasale
I think its a Monster skill, but haven't check guildwiki to see. Kinda a delayed rez skill.
Verteiron
I think they're just like roaches; they don't always die right away when you squash 'em. It only seems to happen with mantids, and I've never had more than one in a single group do it.
flettir
I've noticed this as well. It seems almost random...sometimes it doesn't happen, other times as many as 2 in a group come back (but, unless they just take damage that fast, with less than full health).
however, I haven't seen them use any skill that could be a delayed rez or anything.
Right now, I think it's just a random ability they have, like 25% chance to be rezzed at 50% health after 5 seconds or something.
however, I haven't seen them use any skill that could be a delayed rez or anything.
Right now, I think it's just a random ability they have, like 25% chance to be rezzed at 50% health after 5 seconds or something.
Onarik Amrak
Yeah, it's been happening to me, too.
It's rather annoying.
I remember Kaolai in Tahnnakai Temple does that as well, well at least used to...
It's rather annoying.
I remember Kaolai in Tahnnakai Temple does that as well, well at least used to...
Jara
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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Yeah, it's been happening to me, too.
It's rather annoying.
I remember Kaolai in Tahnnakai Temple does that as well, well at least used to... But if I recall the Tahnnakai temple correctly, there were at least ritualists there with Life or Flesh of my Flesh, so occasional rezzing would make sense, but mantids keep rezzing without a single living party member or spirit near them.
It's rather annoying.
I remember Kaolai in Tahnnakai Temple does that as well, well at least used to... But if I recall the Tahnnakai temple correctly, there were at least ritualists there with Life or Flesh of my Flesh, so occasional rezzing would make sense, but mantids keep rezzing without a single living party member or spirit near them.
Darkhorse
Kaolai had Restoration, which does resurrect all allies in the area.
The Mantids don't. I'm not sure what causes that, but it's a minor nuisance at worst.
The Mantids don't. I'm not sure what causes that, but it's a minor nuisance at worst.
You can't see me
I too have experienced this. I checked into it more, and have confirmed by watching the mobs before agroing for over 10 minutes that they use no monster skill to ressurect, or they do not show it in thier skill activation bar on my screen.
I do believe this is a bug.
I do believe this is a bug.
Roo Ella
I have noticed this as well
and when quick enough to target them when there rezing
there using "Pious Renewal"
But that wouldn't make sense would it.
and when quick enough to target them when there rezing
there using "Pious Renewal"
But that wouldn't make sense would it.
Lord Dobo
I taken to thinking it's a "quirk" of the mantids. I thought I could trace it to a skill, but I've seen multiple types/classes rez and when I put the same one down over and over again I notice that sometimes I kill it without giving it the time to use a skill. Not even a fast one as I am hitting the tab key and locked on before the animation is finished gettting them up. I thought maybe it was me moving away, but I've seen them get up even when I am not moving. So, I think it's just a flat % chance... sometimes it happens, sometimes not.
SotiCoto
Ok.... there are multiple explanations for this:
#1. Res Signet. Lots of monsters have it.
Counter : Nobody has seen it being used, yet they still res.
#2. Restoration. Will res everyone in a certain area when it dies.
Counter : Spirits are fairly obvious.
#3. Lively Was Naomei. Item spell that when dropped (e.g. when mantis dies) will resurrect within a certain area, including the caster.
Counter : Item drop could possibly be seen... though this seems a more likely explanation.
#4. Monster Skill with unknown res effect.
Counter : ?
#5. Someone or something unseen is resurrecting them.
Counter : They would be found sooner or later.
Most importantly.... are any of them Ritualists?
#1. Res Signet. Lots of monsters have it.
Counter : Nobody has seen it being used, yet they still res.
#2. Restoration. Will res everyone in a certain area when it dies.
Counter : Spirits are fairly obvious.
#3. Lively Was Naomei. Item spell that when dropped (e.g. when mantis dies) will resurrect within a certain area, including the caster.
Counter : Item drop could possibly be seen... though this seems a more likely explanation.
#4. Monster Skill with unknown res effect.
Counter : ?
#5. Someone or something unseen is resurrecting them.
Counter : They would be found sooner or later.
Most importantly.... are any of them Ritualists?
Elena
yust mesmers monks and dervishes
ravensong
Hmm they rise from the dead?
I tough they just dig in when their hp is critical and come out bit later :P
I tough they just dig in when their hp is critical and come out bit later :P
Zegorzalek
< likes the roach theory, would be a nice touch.
warren_kn
They use Parasitic Bite a monster skill. Wiki says +1 regen to them -1 to you but the rezzing could be another effect from this.
Marth Reynolds
i saw the monster skill ingame, it doesn't say anything about rezzing but it might just be related.
and the res when all others are dead and no spirits around make it obvious that it's some kind of monster ability
and the res when all others are dead and no spirits around make it obvious that it's some kind of monster ability
Verteiron
I'm with Dobo, I think this is just the "quirk" of the Mantids. Every monster in EN has a special skill or two, and for the Mantids, it's that one from every group isn't quite dead when you kill the mob. I actually kind of like it; it adds a bit of extra "personality" to an enemy that would otherwise just be more sword fodder. Bugs are hard to kill, and Mantids are BIG bugs. They're related to roaches, I tell you! You can stomp a roach and it'll still try to crawl away.
A mantid takes it further; stab it, smash it, poison it and blast it into steaming chunks, and it'll still crawl after you. Freaky things.
A mantid takes it further; stab it, smash it, poison it and blast it into steaming chunks, and it'll still crawl after you. Freaky things.
pingu666
ive had this happen, mostly when u start to walk away
Warskull
Mantids don't "rez" per say. There seems to be a percentage chance that a low health mantid nymph pops out of a mantid corpse. I've never seen it anything other than a mantid nymph.
lucifer_uk
Please excuse the pun, but I think its clearly not a bug. Its quite a cool little monster quirk and maybe the sign of things to come in GW2?
Roo Ella
Eww maybe there the female of the species or the Queen and the mom gives birth after it dies?
Creepy
But fun just when you think there dead they push a baby mantid out
that knows to attack you straight away. lol
Creepy
But fun just when you think there dead they push a baby mantid out
that knows to attack you straight away. lol
grumpage
It's happened to me a few times. It reminded me of the bit in Starship Troopers where a bug that appeared to be dead stabs Jonny in the leg.
Does anyone know if it counts as another kill?
Does anyone know if it counts as another kill?
lucifer_uk
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Does anyone know if it counts as another kill?
Because it appears to be a rez, I doubt it. Someone else want to test it as I'm away from my gaming PC?
Crowell The Fallen
If you look at the names of the ones that pop back up again, I think they are called Mantid Diggers or something. I thought they went underground when low on HP and then poped back up again a few moments later?
warren_kn
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Does anyone know if it counts as another kill?
As far as I could tell, no it doesn't. It didn't give me any more Vanguard points when I had the bounty active.
Lord Dobo
No, it does not count as another kill, I watched for it. I am pretty sure you don't get any more xp for it either, but I'll have to go back and look... But I'm just pretty sure I saw no more gain. Also, no new drops, so no "farming" that.
It's always the same body that died that gets up. I've watched the same corpse get up at least five times once. They get up with a small portion of their health and at least some energy, because they seem to be able to launch back into attacks, but I think that used up skills are still left in some sort of cooldown because they seem to not do certain things right off the bat... though I have no proof it's not just the A.I.
I've seen both the nymphs and the diggers get up... but never a queen... hmm.
It's not limited to just one from each group. I've seen at least two different mantids rez more than once. Was it just two groups in one though? Dunno, have to pay more attention to that maybe.
Overall, I think it's just what they do... a little annoying, but it adds personality to the monsters. Makes you think twice about them. They are easy to kill, but you could be left with a trail of squashed bugs coming after you.
It's always the same body that died that gets up. I've watched the same corpse get up at least five times once. They get up with a small portion of their health and at least some energy, because they seem to be able to launch back into attacks, but I think that used up skills are still left in some sort of cooldown because they seem to not do certain things right off the bat... though I have no proof it's not just the A.I.
I've seen both the nymphs and the diggers get up... but never a queen... hmm.
It's not limited to just one from each group. I've seen at least two different mantids rez more than once. Was it just two groups in one though? Dunno, have to pay more attention to that maybe.
Overall, I think it's just what they do... a little annoying, but it adds personality to the monsters. Makes you think twice about them. They are easy to kill, but you could be left with a trail of squashed bugs coming after you.
xvix83
well, is it me or that when my mm used its body, the matid got up like 1sec later...maybe thats the prob? or its just rezing itself... (i always bring mm for charr homelands raiding)
genofreek
I've seen this too! So far I haven't seen anything but Nymphs get back up, though. And usually there's another Nymph in spell range... maybe Nymphs can help each other out?
This is just the little bit I happened to catch from the limited perspective of a melee character, though.
This is just the little bit I happened to catch from the limited perspective of a melee character, though.
Lord Dobo
I can confirm it's not just nymphs. I have slaughtered a whole group, had the bodies all greyed out, and still had diggers come back up. It's not reliant on there being others alive nearby.
nprose
I'm pretty sure I've seen a queen come back to life this way before. Slaughtered the group, moved away, and suddenly had a queen tagging along behind me.
Cebe
I did wonder if they had dual professions and used Lively was Naomei at first, but no, I've not seen that. I'm voting with bug possibly. It's annoying at worst, since when they're "ressed" they never seem to have much health anyway.