Amazingly people are still winging about needing rank 5 to unlock armor, weapons and consumables. I personally think anyone who thinks like that is just lazey.
But what people dont seem to realise is the problem isnt that you need rank 5, the problem is that certain reputation points are harder to earn then others.
The Norn points are very easy to earn with the bounties, quests and dungeons. I cant comment on the Asura or Drawf yet because I only played the preview event, as my GWEN hasnt arrived yet.
But im constantly hearing how the vanguard points are too hard to earn due to a lack of quests and decent bounties.
The way to resolve this dislike of needing rank 5, isnt to remove that requirement. The way to solver this problem is to add more quests, and better bounties to allow people to earn the points easier!
Now the problem with this, is that GWEN is a very, very small expansion and it has limited explorable areas to play with! So adding more quests and bounties will be hard.
Anet would need to add more explorable areas to add more quests and maybe more dungeons! Thats just my view anyway!
We dont need the rank 5 requirement removed, we need more ways to earn those reputation points.
Anet add more, or add Hard Mode and allow us to earn higher bounties in the same fashion as LB and SS points.
Add more/better ways to earn reputation points...
freekedoutfish
Etta
I don't like grinding for the armor, but so far I have 15k+ for norm, 4k+ for the dwarf and 3k+ for the ebon vanguard and I didn't even start grinding yet. All those points I got just from playing normally and take the bounties when I can.
Some of the quest that give you lot of factions points can be re-do as well and you still get the reward after. Going underground can give you load of points as well, just don't forget to take the bounty.
But yeah grinding for the crafters is a bit stupid, anything that make it easier for most people would be nice imo.
Some of the quest that give you lot of factions points can be re-do as well and you still get the reward after. Going underground can give you load of points as well, just don't forget to take the bounty.
But yeah grinding for the crafters is a bit stupid, anything that make it easier for most people would be nice imo.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Etta
I don't like grinding for the armor, but so far I have 15k+ for norm, 4k+ for the dwarf and 3k+ for the ebon vanguard and I didn't even start grinding yet. All those points I got just from playing normally and take the bounties when I can.
Some of the quest that give you lot of factions points can be re-do as well and you still get the reward after. Going underground can give you load of points as well, just don't forget to take the bounty.
But yeah grinding for the crafters is a bit stupid, anything that make it easier for most people would be nice imo. Trust me, your preaching to the choir! I got myself to rank 7 Norn on the preview event, so I know how easy it is to earn reputation points.
But im just sick of others winging about the "grind" factor to get armor. I think their just being lazey myself, but I figure they need to get some perspective.
Its not that needing rank 5 is a bad thing, its earning those points and getting to rank 5. Norn is EASY, and im sure Asura and Drawf are too.
But so many people have said that Vangaurd have very few quests and bounties to earn points on. So I figure to shut them up and make them happy, ask Anet to add easier/bette ways to earn those points.
But they also have a point if there isnt many vanguard quests, then its unfair if certain races are easier to increase rank in then others. Plus the armors arent anything graet, so..
Some of the quest that give you lot of factions points can be re-do as well and you still get the reward after. Going underground can give you load of points as well, just don't forget to take the bounty.
But yeah grinding for the crafters is a bit stupid, anything that make it easier for most people would be nice imo. Trust me, your preaching to the choir! I got myself to rank 7 Norn on the preview event, so I know how easy it is to earn reputation points.
But im just sick of others winging about the "grind" factor to get armor. I think their just being lazey myself, but I figure they need to get some perspective.
Its not that needing rank 5 is a bad thing, its earning those points and getting to rank 5. Norn is EASY, and im sure Asura and Drawf are too.
But so many people have said that Vangaurd have very few quests and bounties to earn points on. So I figure to shut them up and make them happy, ask Anet to add easier/bette ways to earn those points.
But they also have a point if there isnt many vanguard quests, then its unfair if certain races are easier to increase rank in then others. Plus the armors arent anything graet, so..
Sheik90
this is probably the easiest way to get the 26k points for Ebon Vanguard
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Doomlore, go south towards the open field, AVOID rocktail, but hijack the siege devourer, Grant Theft Devourer style, then cruise around the map in the siege devourer with the hench/hero and bomb your way to high scores.
took me 9h to get r5 :3
seut
The rank5 requirement is pretty annoying for players who play multiple professions, but i realise that there'll be close to zero new content until GW2 and Anet needs to keep us occupied.
Ebon Vanguard points are hardest to come by, because there are only 3 explorables in that area. Cruising around with the siege devourer gets boring fast. Getting to 200kills sometimes without any random effect or shrine giving a hunt upgrade is stupid. Hunt upgrade probability should be increased!
I already finished the storyline and after that, you can trade in your completed Hero's Handbook for measly 2500points. This amount needs to be increased drastically!
Ebon Vanguard points are hardest to come by, because there are only 3 explorables in that area. Cruising around with the siege devourer gets boring fast. Getting to 200kills sometimes without any random effect or shrine giving a hunt upgrade is stupid. Hunt upgrade probability should be increased!
I already finished the storyline and after that, you can trade in your completed Hero's Handbook for measly 2500points. This amount needs to be increased drastically!
Titch2011
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Originally Posted by Sheik90
this is probably the easiest way to get the 26k points for Ebon Vanguard
took me 9h to get r5 :3 wow im definetly trying this =D
took me 9h to get r5 :3 wow im definetly trying this =D
murtagh deadmoon
Definately not hard to get, i got rank 5 in a very short amount of time. Don't make it easier A-net.
Kris
I was the first (at least according to wiki) to get Azura armor (end of first day) - and Azura are the worst to grind for. There are no repeatable quests, and nothing like a siege devourer to use - its all old fashioned grind using the bounties.
Once I got to rank 6, it became more a case of boring myself to death to get to Rank 7 than actually enjoying anything. But heyho, maybe I'm missing out on a repeatable somewhere?
Once I got to rank 6, it became more a case of boring myself to death to get to Rank 7 than actually enjoying anything. But heyho, maybe I'm missing out on a repeatable somewhere?
kielus
Dwarf is by far the easiest to grind ~1,5k per 10-15 minutes? that's even better than nornbear grind + you get winter items (i'm talking about Snowmen dungeon). I wanted myself to get fancy pimped summon skills but these are lvl 20 at r10. and since the polymock quest give a nice start, later it's hell. (maybe not as pain as vanguard, but still worse than norn/dwarf).
i agree, the amounts required aren't bad, it's the ways to get these amounts.
i agree, the amounts required aren't bad, it's the ways to get these amounts.
Cymmina
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Originally Posted by murtagh deadmoon
Definately not hard to get, i got rank 5 in a very short amount of time. Don't make it easier A-net.
Who said anything about being hard? It's boring as hell. I don't know how hard the others are, but Vanguard is horrible. I'm out of quests. Not that they were worth doing because I can easily rack up 1k points on the way to do a 50-150 point quest (yes, getting the assassin hero only gave 50 points). At least they were entertaining quests (especially Vael's). Now that I'm out of quests, I don't even have that entertainment value at the end of a long, boring point run.
The hunt bonuses suck. Plain and simple. I've gone through an entire zone with only the rampage bonus, that's a measly +2 per kill. The highest rank of Sunspear and Lightbringer is 50,000 points and you can get +7 points per kill in HM with boss bonuses ALL THE TIME, guaranteed. The highest rank for EotN reputation titles is 200,000 points and if you're lucky you might get the level 4 hunt (+4 per kill) and the rampage bonus (2x points). By the time that happens to me, I've essentially painted myself in a corner and there's nothing close enough to make it worth doing because the rampage bonus will wear off. I've only seen the boss kill bonus 3 times (+200 points), but you can't always be sure you're close enough to a boss and able to kill it in 5 minutes.
I almost never see the +2 hunt before I get 50 kills, and have never seen a +4 hunt with less than 100 kills.
And for the record, Sacnoth Valley is better than Dalada Uplands because the mobs are *way* easier and more densely packed. Yes, the siege devourer can go into the next zone.
The hunt bonuses suck. Plain and simple. I've gone through an entire zone with only the rampage bonus, that's a measly +2 per kill. The highest rank of Sunspear and Lightbringer is 50,000 points and you can get +7 points per kill in HM with boss bonuses ALL THE TIME, guaranteed. The highest rank for EotN reputation titles is 200,000 points and if you're lucky you might get the level 4 hunt (+4 per kill) and the rampage bonus (2x points). By the time that happens to me, I've essentially painted myself in a corner and there's nothing close enough to make it worth doing because the rampage bonus will wear off. I've only seen the boss kill bonus 3 times (+200 points), but you can't always be sure you're close enough to a boss and able to kill it in 5 minutes.
I almost never see the +2 hunt before I get 50 kills, and have never seen a +4 hunt with less than 100 kills.
And for the record, Sacnoth Valley is better than Dalada Uplands because the mobs are *way* easier and more densely packed. Yes, the siege devourer can go into the next zone.
mikez himself
the title says it all, 100% agree that there needs to be more 'fun' ways (or generally more ways so you can alternate between if grinding) to aquire reputation points
Phantom Gun
Yeah I agree. I was kind of worried about which title to grind until I saw the armors. Now I wish I would of known lol. Anyway i'm kind of the opposite of some people. I found the asura title is real easy because there are plenty of quests to keep you going along the way. I'm like 3k from r5 right now, but found out I don't like the armor that much. So now i'm grinding norn, which I seem to be having some trouble with since I can't find many quests to help me out.
They also fixed the nornbear quest so I can't do that, and the lake is nice points, but it takes a long time before I start feeling like i'm making progress. So I agree that if they had more ways to work on these I would be happy. 26,000 is highly doable, but it can be a yawn fest getting there especialy once you don't have anymore quests.
They also fixed the nornbear quest so I can't do that, and the lake is nice points, but it takes a long time before I start feeling like i'm making progress. So I agree that if they had more ways to work on these I would be happy. 26,000 is highly doable, but it can be a yawn fest getting there especialy once you don't have anymore quests.
Tyras
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Originally Posted by Kris
I was the first (at least according to wiki) to get Azura armor (end of first day) - and Azura are the worst to grind for. There are no repeatable quests, and nothing like a siege devourer to use - its all old fashioned grind using the bounties.
Once I got to rank 6, it became more a case of boring myself to death to get to Rank 7 than actually enjoying anything. But heyho, maybe I'm missing out on a repeatable somewhere? 1. you didn't need to get to r7.
2. the same goes for Ebon Vanguard, no repeatable quests.
3. Azura have 3 more explorable areas then Vanguard.
4. Azura have more quests then Vanguard.
5. Azura have a mini game that can get you points.
Once I got to rank 6, it became more a case of boring myself to death to get to Rank 7 than actually enjoying anything. But heyho, maybe I'm missing out on a repeatable somewhere? 1. you didn't need to get to r7.
2. the same goes for Ebon Vanguard, no repeatable quests.
3. Azura have 3 more explorable areas then Vanguard.
4. Azura have more quests then Vanguard.
5. Azura have a mini game that can get you points.
Ahiko
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Originally Posted by kielus
Dwarf is by far the easiest to grind ~1,5k per 10-15 minutes? that's even better than nornbear grind + you get winter items (i'm talking about Snowmen dungeon). I wanted myself to get fancy pimped summon skills but these are lvl 20 at r10. and since the polymock quest give a nice start, later it's hell. (maybe not as pain as vanguard, but still worse than norn/dwarf).
i agree, the amounts required aren't bad, it's the ways to get these amounts. Where do you go to grind there? Sepulcher of Dragrammir?
i agree, the amounts required aren't bad, it's the ways to get these amounts. Where do you go to grind there? Sepulcher of Dragrammir?
Series
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=1#post3106636
I'm way ahead of you fish!
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I'm way ahead of you fish!
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Blkout
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Amazingly people are still winging about needing rank 5 to unlock armor, weapons and consumables. I personally think anyone who thinks like that is just lazey.
But what people dont seem to realise is the problem isnt that you need rank 5, the problem is that certain reputation points are harder to earn then others.
The Norn points are very easy to earn with the bounties, quests and dungeons. I cant comment on the Asura or Drawf yet because I only played the preview event, as my GWEN hasnt arrived yet.
But im constantly hearing how the vanguard points are too hard to earn due to a lack of quests and decent bounties.
The way to resolve this dislike of needing rank 5, isnt to remove that requirement. The way to solver this problem is to add more quests, and better bounties to allow people to earn the points easier!
Now the problem with this, is that GWEN is a very, very small expansion and it has limited explorable areas to play with! So adding more quests and bounties will be hard.
Anet would need to add more explorable areas to add more quests and maybe more dungeons! Thats just my view anyway!
We dont need the rank 5 requirement removed, we need more ways to earn those reputation points.
Anet add more, or add Hard Mode and allow us to earn higher bounties in the same fashion as LB and SS points. Not lazy, we just have a life outside of GW. Try real life sometime, its much tougher than GW.
But what people dont seem to realise is the problem isnt that you need rank 5, the problem is that certain reputation points are harder to earn then others.
The Norn points are very easy to earn with the bounties, quests and dungeons. I cant comment on the Asura or Drawf yet because I only played the preview event, as my GWEN hasnt arrived yet.
But im constantly hearing how the vanguard points are too hard to earn due to a lack of quests and decent bounties.
The way to resolve this dislike of needing rank 5, isnt to remove that requirement. The way to solver this problem is to add more quests, and better bounties to allow people to earn the points easier!
Now the problem with this, is that GWEN is a very, very small expansion and it has limited explorable areas to play with! So adding more quests and bounties will be hard.
Anet would need to add more explorable areas to add more quests and maybe more dungeons! Thats just my view anyway!
We dont need the rank 5 requirement removed, we need more ways to earn those reputation points.
Anet add more, or add Hard Mode and allow us to earn higher bounties in the same fashion as LB and SS points. Not lazy, we just have a life outside of GW. Try real life sometime, its much tougher than GW.
Blkout
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
But im just sick of others winging about the "grind" factor to get armor. I think their just being lazey myself, but I figure they need to get some perspective.
I assume you mean "whining", not "winging". The word "lazy" has no "e" in it. Seeing as how you misspelled both words incorrectly in two different posts, I can only assume you don't know how to spell them correctly. So there you go; you learn something new everyday.
Blkout
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Originally Posted by Cymmina
Who said anything about being hard? It's boring as hell. I don't know how hard the others are, but Vanguard is horrible. I'm out of quests. Not that they were worth doing because I can easily rack up 1k points on the way to do a 50-150 point quest (yes, getting the assassin hero only gave 50 points). At least they were entertaining quests (especially Vael's). Now that I'm out of quests, I don't even have that entertainment value at the end of a long, boring point run.
The hunt bonuses suck. Plain and simple. I've gone through an entire zone with only the rampage bonus, that's a measly +2 per kill. The highest rank of Sunspear and Lightbringer is 50,000 points and you can get +7 points per kill in HM with boss bonuses ALL THE TIME, guaranteed. The highest rank for EotN reputation titles is 200,000 points and if you're lucky you might get the level 4 hunt (+4 per kill) and the rampage bonus (2x points). By the time that happens to me, I've essentially painted myself in a corner and there's nothing close enough to make it worth doing because the rampage bonus will wear off. I've only seen the boss kill bonus 3 times (+200 points), but you can't always be sure you're close enough to a boss and able to kill it in 5 minutes.
I almost never see the +2 hunt before I get 50 kills, and have never seen a +4 hunt with less than 100 kills.
And for the record, Sacnoth Valley is better than Dalada Uplands because the mobs are *way* easier and more densely packed. Yes, the siege devourer can go into the next zone. Excellent comparison to Nightfall which in my opinion was done MUCH better in regards to the points system. It really appears that Anet wanted this expansion to SEEM longer than it really is by forcing you to play longer. That was not smart thinking on their part at all.
The hunt bonuses suck. Plain and simple. I've gone through an entire zone with only the rampage bonus, that's a measly +2 per kill. The highest rank of Sunspear and Lightbringer is 50,000 points and you can get +7 points per kill in HM with boss bonuses ALL THE TIME, guaranteed. The highest rank for EotN reputation titles is 200,000 points and if you're lucky you might get the level 4 hunt (+4 per kill) and the rampage bonus (2x points). By the time that happens to me, I've essentially painted myself in a corner and there's nothing close enough to make it worth doing because the rampage bonus will wear off. I've only seen the boss kill bonus 3 times (+200 points), but you can't always be sure you're close enough to a boss and able to kill it in 5 minutes.
I almost never see the +2 hunt before I get 50 kills, and have never seen a +4 hunt with less than 100 kills.
And for the record, Sacnoth Valley is better than Dalada Uplands because the mobs are *way* easier and more densely packed. Yes, the siege devourer can go into the next zone. Excellent comparison to Nightfall which in my opinion was done MUCH better in regards to the points system. It really appears that Anet wanted this expansion to SEEM longer than it really is by forcing you to play longer. That was not smart thinking on their part at all.
kielus
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I don't mind that you need to get to rank 5, its just that I would like to have a way to get reputation points a fun way.I think they should have added quests to get the 26k rep points, then if you want to grind past R5 then go out and kill everything.
Grinding outside doomlore shrine gets boring fast. I bought this game to have fun, not be bored.
Grinding outside doomlore shrine gets boring fast. I bought this game to have fun, not be bored.
Seef II
Bah, swap quest reward numbers, 5000 points 100 xp. No one really cares about xp anymore.
murtagh deadmoon
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Originally Posted by Cymmina
Who said anything about being hard? It's boring as hell. I don't know how hard the others are, but Vanguard is horrible. I'm out of quests. Not that they were worth doing because I can easily rack up 1k points on the way to do a 50-150 point quest (yes, getting the assassin hero only gave 50 points). At least they were entertaining quests (especially Vael's). Now that I'm out of quests, I don't even have that entertainment value at the end of a long, boring point run.
The hunt bonuses suck. Plain and simple. I've gone through an entire zone with only the rampage bonus, that's a measly +2 per kill. The highest rank of Sunspear and Lightbringer is 50,000 points and you can get +7 points per kill in HM with boss bonuses ALL THE TIME, guaranteed. The highest rank for EotN reputation titles is 200,000 points and if you're lucky you might get the level 4 hunt (+4 per kill) and the rampage bonus (2x points). By the time that happens to me, I've essentially painted myself in a corner and there's nothing close enough to make it worth doing because the rampage bonus will wear off. I've only seen the boss kill bonus 3 times (+200 points), but you can't always be sure you're close enough to a boss and able to kill it in 5 minutes.
I almost never see the +2 hunt before I get 50 kills, and have never seen a +4 hunt with less than 100 kills.
And for the record, Sacnoth Valley is better than Dalada Uplands because the mobs are *way* easier and more densely packed. Yes, the siege devourer can go into the next zone.
You get the rank 4 one easily in Sacnoth Valley, there are at least 350 enemies in that area and you can away from an hour run with 5k points. You just have to do it smartly, leave the bosses and swing back when you have a bounty, place yourself well when your about to get a bonus in case it's time attack, this involes putting yourself near 10 easy kills. All in all you can make 3-5k an hour, this gives you rank 5 in 5 hours. That's not a time sink for armor, that's working for it.
The hunt bonuses suck. Plain and simple. I've gone through an entire zone with only the rampage bonus, that's a measly +2 per kill. The highest rank of Sunspear and Lightbringer is 50,000 points and you can get +7 points per kill in HM with boss bonuses ALL THE TIME, guaranteed. The highest rank for EotN reputation titles is 200,000 points and if you're lucky you might get the level 4 hunt (+4 per kill) and the rampage bonus (2x points). By the time that happens to me, I've essentially painted myself in a corner and there's nothing close enough to make it worth doing because the rampage bonus will wear off. I've only seen the boss kill bonus 3 times (+200 points), but you can't always be sure you're close enough to a boss and able to kill it in 5 minutes.
I almost never see the +2 hunt before I get 50 kills, and have never seen a +4 hunt with less than 100 kills.
And for the record, Sacnoth Valley is better than Dalada Uplands because the mobs are *way* easier and more densely packed. Yes, the siege devourer can go into the next zone.
You get the rank 4 one easily in Sacnoth Valley, there are at least 350 enemies in that area and you can away from an hour run with 5k points. You just have to do it smartly, leave the bosses and swing back when you have a bounty, place yourself well when your about to get a bonus in case it's time attack, this involes putting yourself near 10 easy kills. All in all you can make 3-5k an hour, this gives you rank 5 in 5 hours. That's not a time sink for armor, that's working for it.
camulus
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Trust me, your preaching to the choir! I got myself to rank 7 Norn on the preview event, so I know how easy it is to earn reputation points.
But im just sick of others winging about the "grind" factor to get armor. I think their just being lazey myself, but I figure they need to get some perspective.
Its not that needing rank 5 is a bad thing, its earning those points and getting to rank 5. Norn is EASY, and im sure Asura and Drawf are too.
But so many people have said that Vangaurd have very few quests and bounties to earn points on. So I figure to shut them up and make them happy, ask Anet to add easier/bette ways to earn those points.
But they also have a point if there isnt many vanguard quests, then its unfair if certain races are easier to increase rank in then others. Plus the armors arent anything graet, so..
Sure add some quests but to simply blame laziness lacks a bit of thought. You only played one character presumably duirng the preview so it wasnt painful and I always believe you should play one character all the way through everything.
However having to grind to put armour on your other characters imply pisses me off, the same way factions did, all they are doing is keeping you busy to keep you in the game, I will only be upgrading one of 5 accounts, so they lose money simply because theres no point grinding all my professsions, and doubles (more than one nec, ele, monk, tank, etc) to get the benefit of that armour or other things.
Same thing happened with factions, if they keep this up I wont be interested in buying GW2, I like to play and fight and get rewards but I dont like having to do the same thing over and over and over again on multiple toons.
I want to experience the different skill sets on the different professions but in my mind GWEN is worse than factions in the grinding they added.
I hope they take note and either allow those with multiple professions to access crafters once one toon has , or something similar, or add in quests that could be fun to do over instead of just plain killing same old junk again and again in different skill sets
But im just sick of others winging about the "grind" factor to get armor. I think their just being lazey myself, but I figure they need to get some perspective.
Its not that needing rank 5 is a bad thing, its earning those points and getting to rank 5. Norn is EASY, and im sure Asura and Drawf are too.
But so many people have said that Vangaurd have very few quests and bounties to earn points on. So I figure to shut them up and make them happy, ask Anet to add easier/bette ways to earn those points.
But they also have a point if there isnt many vanguard quests, then its unfair if certain races are easier to increase rank in then others. Plus the armors arent anything graet, so..
Sure add some quests but to simply blame laziness lacks a bit of thought. You only played one character presumably duirng the preview so it wasnt painful and I always believe you should play one character all the way through everything.
However having to grind to put armour on your other characters imply pisses me off, the same way factions did, all they are doing is keeping you busy to keep you in the game, I will only be upgrading one of 5 accounts, so they lose money simply because theres no point grinding all my professsions, and doubles (more than one nec, ele, monk, tank, etc) to get the benefit of that armour or other things.
Same thing happened with factions, if they keep this up I wont be interested in buying GW2, I like to play and fight and get rewards but I dont like having to do the same thing over and over and over again on multiple toons.
I want to experience the different skill sets on the different professions but in my mind GWEN is worse than factions in the grinding they added.
I hope they take note and either allow those with multiple professions to access crafters once one toon has , or something similar, or add in quests that could be fun to do over instead of just plain killing same old junk again and again in different skill sets
RSGashapon
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Originally Posted by Seef II
X,X00 experience
X00 [Race] reputation points
x00 Gold (if any at all)
Except for the new consumables, there isn't any use for experience. Most people have plenty of skill points by now and they aren't difficult to acquire.
We need better gold and/or reputation rewards, not more experience.
genofreek
I also thought we were getting WAYYY too much XP for these. I mean come on, we're already level 20 and most people already have at least 100 extra skill points. 
Not that I think we should be getting 5k rep every time, but some of these quests give you like 10k XP! Frankly, I'd rather have money, keys, crafting materials, or rep points.
Personally, I'm all for more quests! Or making more rep quests repeatable. I haven't had to grind much at all to get my rep points, but obviously other people have or there wouldn't be a ton of threads about it. :-\
Not that I think we should be getting 5k rep every time, but some of these quests give you like 10k XP! Frankly, I'd rather have money, keys, crafting materials, or rep points.Personally, I'm all for more quests! Or making more rep quests repeatable. I haven't had to grind much at all to get my rep points, but obviously other people have or there wouldn't be a ton of threads about it. :-\
pingu666
you do relise lowing the requirement/increasing rep gain is effectivly the same thing right?
stiffler
There is always the chance that when they bring Hard Mode in bounty's will increase in value, much in the same way LB and SS did in NF. I can see this will peev a lot of peeps off if they bring that in, although it will make things quicker for all the other reputation points you have not worked on.
Enix
Bounties need to be hecka higher and bonuses need to last much longer.
Asuran bounties suck compared to Norn because you cant cut through mobs as quickly (level 28's have a way of slowing you down and nurfing your rampage) and they arent packed as closely.
The main problem for me is that I have 10 charecters of which I routinely play 5. So, the point behind GWEN has become, beat it with 1 char and quit GW because there is no point in grinding titles on 5 charecters.
I have tried to keep my 5 useful core charecters (all but mesmer) available to help guildies, but the sheer amount of crap that GWEN has dumped on me is unimagineable. 10 chars with 10 heros each, 20 heros each now. Polymock bs for PvE skills. Tournaments. Tracks for EVERYTHING... It's just too much.
Asuran bounties suck compared to Norn because you cant cut through mobs as quickly (level 28's have a way of slowing you down and nurfing your rampage) and they arent packed as closely.
The main problem for me is that I have 10 charecters of which I routinely play 5. So, the point behind GWEN has become, beat it with 1 char and quit GW because there is no point in grinding titles on 5 charecters.
I have tried to keep my 5 useful core charecters (all but mesmer) available to help guildies, but the sheer amount of crap that GWEN has dumped on me is unimagineable. 10 chars with 10 heros each, 20 heros each now. Polymock bs for PvE skills. Tournaments. Tracks for EVERYTHING... It's just too much.
Gigashadow
Nobody said it was hard. It's just tedious. Really, just shut up about the "lazy" comments.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by camulus
Sure add some quests but to simply blame laziness lacks a bit of thought. You only played one character presumably duirng the preview so it wasnt painful and I always believe you should play one character all the way through everything.
However having to grind to put armour on your other characters imply pisses me off, the same way factions did, all they are doing is keeping you busy to keep you in the game, I will only be upgrading one of 5 accounts, so they lose money simply because theres no point grinding all my professsions, and doubles (more than one nec, ele, monk, tank, etc) to get the benefit of that armour or other things.
Same thing happened with factions, if they keep this up I wont be interested in buying GW2, I like to play and fight and get rewards but I dont like having to do the same thing over and over and over again on multiple toons.
I want to experience the different skill sets on the different professions but in my mind GWEN is worse than factions in the grinding they added.
I hope they take note and either allow those with multiple professions to access crafters once one toon has , or something similar, or add in quests that could be fun to do over instead of just plain killing same old junk again and again in different skill sets Ill tell you why I think people are being lazey with not liking this rank requirement. I got my GWEN yesterday and started to do vanguard quests and dungeons.
I started on 0 points for that race and within about 5 quests and 3 dungeons, I was up to 11k points. Only 4k away from rank 4 and only 14 away from rank 5.
I still have more quests and more dungeons to do and that will probably get me to rank 5, so erning another 10k points is NOTHING at all.
This is from having 0 points and just working through the storyline! Now you explain to me, where the effort is? you explain to me how thast was hard to increase rank?
That took no extrenal effort outside of the story! So for someone to say to me...
"oh earning these ranks is too much work and blah blah blah"
...yes they are lazey! It obviously can be done by just working the storyline and maybe it does take a bit of farming to finish it off, but your only talking maybe 3 or 4 runs of an area!
However having to grind to put armour on your other characters imply pisses me off, the same way factions did, all they are doing is keeping you busy to keep you in the game, I will only be upgrading one of 5 accounts, so they lose money simply because theres no point grinding all my professsions, and doubles (more than one nec, ele, monk, tank, etc) to get the benefit of that armour or other things.
Same thing happened with factions, if they keep this up I wont be interested in buying GW2, I like to play and fight and get rewards but I dont like having to do the same thing over and over and over again on multiple toons.
I want to experience the different skill sets on the different professions but in my mind GWEN is worse than factions in the grinding they added.
I hope they take note and either allow those with multiple professions to access crafters once one toon has , or something similar, or add in quests that could be fun to do over instead of just plain killing same old junk again and again in different skill sets Ill tell you why I think people are being lazey with not liking this rank requirement. I got my GWEN yesterday and started to do vanguard quests and dungeons.
I started on 0 points for that race and within about 5 quests and 3 dungeons, I was up to 11k points. Only 4k away from rank 4 and only 14 away from rank 5.
I still have more quests and more dungeons to do and that will probably get me to rank 5, so erning another 10k points is NOTHING at all.
This is from having 0 points and just working through the storyline! Now you explain to me, where the effort is? you explain to me how thast was hard to increase rank?
That took no extrenal effort outside of the story! So for someone to say to me...
"oh earning these ranks is too much work and blah blah blah"
...yes they are lazey! It obviously can be done by just working the storyline and maybe it does take a bit of farming to finish it off, but your only talking maybe 3 or 4 runs of an area!