Sundering or Furious?
B.N
A few people in my alliance use furious, others use sundering. I rarely see any swords selling with furious mods on them but I always see sundering swords on sale. What does everyone prefer?
Iuris
There's no real preference. Each sword is good for a specific build. Sometimes any extra adrenaline will benefit the player significantly, sometimes, it is of no value.
It all depends.
It all depends.
Mournblade
If you don't need elemental damage, and you are running an adrenal build go for furious. You didn't mention Vampiric though... =)
Theli
Sundering >>>>> Furious even if u run adrenal builds.
u gain adrenalin just hitting ur target, and using skills like frenzy or fail that increase attack speed.
Sundering 20/20 means u have a 20% chance to low targets armor by 20% any time u hit him.
So if ur target is a monk 60 al base without armor boost (al vs phy, or shield).
60*20/100= 12 thats mean that ur are lowering the armor 12 points so its like u hit a 48armor target. And thats means more damage. And the chance is 20%
So lets say every 5 attacks u hit 1 with sundering 20% target armor.
And u are using frenzy/flail , so ur attack speed is increased.
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Lets see Furious.
max furious is 10%, that means almost every 10 attacks 1 of ur attacks will give u 2 adren instead of 1. So u can charge ur combo, 1 hit earlier.
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So when u get more benefit, more DPS every 5 attacks or More adrenaline every 10 attacks. I say option 1.
Well Of course its all probability u can hit twice or three times in a row with double adrenaline, but it's just luck. But there is the same and more posibility to hit ur target with the 20% sundering bonus.
More DPS is much better, and always use a skill that increase attack speed, and now some ppl run frenzy/flail + " For great Justice". So whats the point in Furious Sword??
Better more DPS, so Sundering/Vampiric is better
I'll Choose on swords
Vampiric,Sundering,Elemental,Zealous
Maybe on Hammers ,Furious, instead of Zealous. But not for Sword/Axe
u gain adrenalin just hitting ur target, and using skills like frenzy or fail that increase attack speed.
Sundering 20/20 means u have a 20% chance to low targets armor by 20% any time u hit him.
So if ur target is a monk 60 al base without armor boost (al vs phy, or shield).
60*20/100= 12 thats mean that ur are lowering the armor 12 points so its like u hit a 48armor target. And thats means more damage. And the chance is 20%
So lets say every 5 attacks u hit 1 with sundering 20% target armor.
And u are using frenzy/flail , so ur attack speed is increased.
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Lets see Furious.
max furious is 10%, that means almost every 10 attacks 1 of ur attacks will give u 2 adren instead of 1. So u can charge ur combo, 1 hit earlier.
............
So when u get more benefit, more DPS every 5 attacks or More adrenaline every 10 attacks. I say option 1.
Well Of course its all probability u can hit twice or three times in a row with double adrenaline, but it's just luck. But there is the same and more posibility to hit ur target with the 20% sundering bonus.
More DPS is much better, and always use a skill that increase attack speed, and now some ppl run frenzy/flail + " For great Justice". So whats the point in Furious Sword??
Better more DPS, so Sundering/Vampiric is better
I'll Choose on swords
Vampiric,Sundering,Elemental,Zealous
Maybe on Hammers ,Furious, instead of Zealous. But not for Sword/Axe
Coloneh
you have go to be kidding.... do not listen to anything the poster above me said. he obviously has some sort of medical condition that causes him to believe sundering is useful. if you want more adrenaline go for furious. elemental damage go for elemental. damage, go for vampiric. never sundering. ever.
pies of doom
gonna have to agree with coloneh. i always go for furious over sundering. sundering is just ..... well its just lame. lol. i tend to carry a couple of elem swords a couple of furious and 1 vamp if im playing warrior. as for swords being sold with sundering over furious its just the fact that people believe sundering will raise the price of their weapon imo as 20/20 sundering upgrade are generally harder to come by than a 10% furious upgrade.
masta_yoda
lol...... if u really think furious is good, then your a noob in pvp.
strong spike damage is the way to go in pvp, not extra 2 andrenaline. on top of that if you had a zealous mod, you could probably frenzy twice as much and still build more andrenaline and still produce almost twice the amount of damage compared to your 2 andrenaline gain.
Furthermore with skills like enraging, building andrenaline shouldnt be a problem.
As for why furious sword mods never get bought, because it is shit compared to sundering,zealous,vamp etc...
strong spike damage is the way to go in pvp, not extra 2 andrenaline. on top of that if you had a zealous mod, you could probably frenzy twice as much and still build more andrenaline and still produce almost twice the amount of damage compared to your 2 andrenaline gain.
Furthermore with skills like enraging, building andrenaline shouldnt be a problem.
As for why furious sword mods never get bought, because it is shit compared to sundering,zealous,vamp etc...
Savio
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
never sundering. ever.
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Theli
if u think furious is good, you probably run a mending wammo.
Like Yoda says, In PVP and PVE Strong Spike Damage (more DPS DAMAGE PER SECOND) is the way.
Well if u think that I have a mental condition, so the guys that post in QQ forums have the same condition, and they are in the tops gvg guilds
http://www.teamquitter.com/phpBB2/vi...=asc&star t=0
There is a post with only Warrior Related question. Go there and ask.
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I think that u live in the past when sundering used to be 10/10 and there wasnt other Increase Attack Speed than Frenzy/Flurry.
Now With Enraging + Flail + For Great Justice (after buff) if u need adren, u need to delete ur war.
Like Yoda says, In PVP and PVE Strong Spike Damage (more DPS DAMAGE PER SECOND) is the way.
Well if u think that I have a mental condition, so the guys that post in QQ forums have the same condition, and they are in the tops gvg guilds
http://www.teamquitter.com/phpBB2/vi...=asc&star t=0
There is a post with only Warrior Related question. Go there and ask.
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I think that u live in the past when sundering used to be 10/10 and there wasnt other Increase Attack Speed than Frenzy/Flurry.
Now With Enraging + Flail + For Great Justice (after buff) if u need adren, u need to delete ur war.
smrandom
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Originally Posted by Savio
What's wrong with sundering?
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With respect to PvE, I prefer Furious because I use a lot of adrenal skills. Combined with skills like Enraging, Flail or "For Great Justice", you can use a lot of high cost adrenaline skills more often, which results in a higher damage output. Again, I'd probably pick a Sundering Hammer over a Furious Hammer, but in the case of Axes and Swords, I like Furious.
I only use Zealous mods on Scythes and Daggers. Spears are Vampiric or Furious. Scythes are Vampiric or Zealous.
pies of doom
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Originally Posted by masta_yoda
lol...... if u really think furious is good, then your a noob in pvp.
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Isileth
In a spike sundering while doing less dmg on average than vamp, has the chance to do a lot more. An average spike tends not to kill, when you crit and sunder, thats when people go down.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by Theli
Like Yoda says, In PVP and PVE Strong Spike Damage (more DPS DAMAGE PER SECOND) is the way.
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Icy DS
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
your contradicting yourself, vamp is more dps.
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SUNDERING > ANYTHING IN LIFE
Darkobra
Use what you want and ignore the cries of the elitists. Even Frenzy! My domination mesmer will love you long time.
demonblade
i prefer zealous over any others... maybe not vamp
i have other means of gain adrenalines, furious is just not enough
i have other means to spike dmg, sundering is just not often enough
i have other means of gain adrenalines, furious is just not enough
i have other means to spike dmg, sundering is just not often enough
Theli
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
your contradicting yourself, vamp is more dps.
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Then Between vamp or sundering which one its better?
It depends, Vamp > dps while spiking
and u can say not spiking vamp is more usefull too.
but there is one thing. Metagame.
Blind + Wards + SoD
Then its better Sundering. U're not gaining benefit from vamp.
notskorn
Get a sundering, furious, vamp, zealous and elemental weapon of each type and switch accordingly and you should be all set.