many people who i battled with them (specialy melee attackers), said that using blind all the time is nooby, like a cheat and it's not a real fight.
is it?
ebon dust aura = cheat?
silentman
Hello
many people who i battled with them (specialy melee attackers), said that using blind all the time is nooby, like a cheat and it's not a real fight.
is it?
many people who i battled with them (specialy melee attackers), said that using blind all the time is nooby, like a cheat and it's not a real fight.
is it?
karunpav
No. They just suck.
And so does 1v1 tbh.
And so does 1v1 tbh.
Cherng Butter
Not really sure the OP hinted at 1v1, but EBA is a rather effective melee/any attacker neutering skill, though certainly not a cheat or anything ;D
the Puppeteer
if Ebon aura is a cheat - then Blinding Flash is an Uber cheat lol
dont listen to ppl who say that - just jelous cus you rendered them useless
dont listen to ppl who say that - just jelous cus you rendered them useless
MrFuzzles
Because mesmers, eles, necros, monks, and ritualists are completely defenseless when blinded.
Stop thinking in terms of 1v1. Blind is only cheating if you assume the whole game revolves around physical attacks.
Stop thinking in terms of 1v1. Blind is only cheating if you assume the whole game revolves around physical attacks.
boarderx
if your melee and doing a 1v1 your shuold bring a condition counter anyway
Utaku
[skill]Sight Beyond Sight[/skill] just an example.
Oh and 1vs1 doesn't mean anything, it's a team game dude.
Oh and 1vs1 doesn't mean anything, it's a team game dude.
Cebe
When it comes to wammos, Blind is Cheating, Mesmers are Hax.
It's just the way the game works.
Ebon Dust Aura is a great skill for Hero Dervishes, assuming you give them an ebon scythe of course (NEVER trust them with an earth damage conversion enchantment)...they seem to stay alive a lot longer with that, and use it pretty well.
It's just the way the game works.
Ebon Dust Aura is a great skill for Hero Dervishes, assuming you give them an ebon scythe of course (NEVER trust them with an earth damage conversion enchantment)...they seem to stay alive a lot longer with that, and use it pretty well.
Giggly Giggles
Touch Rangers were called noobs and they generally own only thing that can stop them is cripple/movemet hexes so basically noob means you are really good and if someone says your cheating when your not that is probably the ultimate compliment
Edit:Ok I admit that was a bit random basically your good
Edit:Ok I admit that was a bit random basically your good
Str0b0
Nah I used EDA all the time. I still use an EDA build on my Dervish for general PvE purposes. It's very survivable with a decent damage output since you don't have to waste as many skill slots on protection buffs since most of the enemies you'll be facing will be blind.
Sir Pandra Pierva
No it's not a cheat but it is kinda cheep. It is my personal favorite elite when combod with sig of malice(the one that removes conidtions)
Faer
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Originally Posted by Giggly Giggles
Touch Rangers were called noobs and they generally own only thing that can stop them is cripple/movemet hexes so basically noob means you are really good and if someone says your cheating when your not that is probably the ultimate compliment
Edit:Ok I admit that was a bit random basically your good OH WOW, LOOK OVER THERE, IT'S A---
[skill]diversion[/skill]
Oh man, I'm sorry. I guess that was just a
[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]
My bad.
Edit:Ok I admit that was a bit random basically your good OH WOW, LOOK OVER THERE, IT'S A---
[skill]diversion[/skill]
Oh man, I'm sorry. I guess that was just a
[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]
My bad.
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Faer
OH WOW, LOOK OVER THERE, IT'S A---
[skill]diversion[/skill]
Oh man, I'm sorry. I guess that was just a
[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]
My bad. Thats 2 examples of a Touch Ranger counter, name 6 others.
EDA is only cheating if you seem to think that bringing a build to completely counter melee in 1v1 is actually fun. Its like been asked to play dagger assassin to test out a build, only to find out its nothing but anti-melee...
[skill]diversion[/skill]
Oh man, I'm sorry. I guess that was just a
[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]
My bad. Thats 2 examples of a Touch Ranger counter, name 6 others.
EDA is only cheating if you seem to think that bringing a build to completely counter melee in 1v1 is actually fun. Its like been asked to play dagger assassin to test out a build, only to find out its nothing but anti-melee...
WarKaster
Seeking Arrows + Pin Down + Burning Arrow = one dead touch ranger.
And EBA is probably one of the best Dervish Skills in the game.....if people are not smart enough to bring a condition removal on their build now a days its their own fault.
And EBA is probably one of the best Dervish Skills in the game.....if people are not smart enough to bring a condition removal on their build now a days its their own fault.
iridescentfyre
As someone who uses a Warrior, Ranger, or Paragon 99% of the time, even I agree that blinding is not a cheat. Everyone gets eight skill slots. If they choose not to bring something to counter being blinded, that's cool as long as they've got a reason; but they have no right to complain and be immature asshats.
If the game gives you the skills, you aren't cheating by using them.
If the game gives you the skills, you aren't cheating by using them.
blakecraw
It's like a rocket launcher in a fps. Of course it's not cheating, it's just seen that way since it has the ability to pwn the pants off somebody in the right situation. Along the same lines as a touch ranger. All of the above require little skill, and can be very effective, hence they are seen as noobish or cheap.
placebo overdose
it is cheap imo blind spam like that is annoying but easy to deal with in almost any class so meh its not very intertaining and i would rather bang on a soft target instead of blinding a 100al warrior
distilledwill
You're never cheating in this game if you use the skills available to you to beat your opponent. If the skills are overpowered, so be it, you are merely using the game to your advantage, wheres the harm in that?
Simple solutions to totally gimp other peoples powerful builds aren't you cheating, they're just you winning.
Simple solutions to totally gimp other peoples powerful builds aren't you cheating, they're just you winning.
neo the tyrant
I use it quite a bit, not on my derv, but my ranger pwns the hell out of everything with bow attacks+EDA.
NOT CHEATING
NOT CHEATING
Turbobusa
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Thats 2 examples of a Touch Ranger counter, name 6 others.
Every cripple+ degen combination
every Energy denial
ho and I just thought:
Atrophy
Now i so want to try that.
every Energy denial
ho and I just thought:
Atrophy
Now i so want to try that.
iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Thats 2 examples of a Touch Ranger counter, name 6 others.
Why name 6 others, when all you really need is Apply Poison + Crippling Shot?
Well, those two and team members intelligent enough to stay out of touch range..
Well, those two and team members intelligent enough to stay out of touch range..
Faer
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Thats 2 examples of a Touch Ranger counter, name 6 others.
zzzzz. Been there, done that.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...5&postcount=15
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...5&postcount=15
OI-812
They need to enable speech macros, so that when you're playing your EDA derv, you can say "up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start" at the start of every match. I'd enjoy that. That and watching the nooblets QQ about not being able to hit the broadside of a barn.
Might have already been suggested, but would Unseen Fury combine well with EDA, you think?
Might have already been suggested, but would Unseen Fury combine well with EDA, you think?
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by Faer
MercenaryK
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
Dude you have a little too much time on your hands. Also to the previous post, it would work but whats the point? other than the fact that you can't be blinded.
What do you mean by the last sentance?
Unseen Fury [stance] Assassin ~ Deadly Arts
For 15...51 seconds, you cannot be blocked by Blinded foes.
I must be missing some thing..
Unseen Fury [stance] Assassin ~ Deadly Arts
For 15...51 seconds, you cannot be blocked by Blinded foes.
I must be missing some thing..
draxynnic
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
Dude you have a little too much time on your hands.
Looks to me like he's just posted every skill that results in slowing your opponent (thus keeping the touch ranger away from you). Without actually having gone up against one, I'd imagine many of those would be less than effective counters because they need you to be close to the touch ranger to use it in the first place or, in the case of Veil of Thorns, requires the touch ranger to actually attack you normally rather than just feeling you up to be effective.
Sir Pandra Pierva
lol my point was he still took the time to do that. Also I was being a retard on the skills my bad I was confusing it with sight from beyond the rit skill.
roflcopter2445
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Originally Posted by neo the tyrant
I use it quite a bit, not on my derv, but my ranger pwns the hell out of everything with bow attacks+EDA.
NOT CHEATING EDA and that other skill thats like barrage, but it's not elite, forgot the name (released with gw:en), gotta try that
NOT CHEATING EDA and that other skill thats like barrage, but it's not elite, forgot the name (released with gw:en), gotta try that
Zamochit
poison tip signet + EDA + volley could be fun. I think poison would be removed as opposed to blind first
ayame ftw
u people seem to forget that its an enchantment and can be removed
Lorinda
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Originally Posted by Faer
OH WOW, LOOK OVER THERE, IT'S A---
[skill]diversion[/skill]
Oh man, I'm sorry. I guess that was just a
[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]
My bad. Your bad indeed. I want to see you do a dis shot on Ebon Dust.
In case you didnt know its 1/4 sec casting time.
Diversion might work, but then again your playing a mesmer and that doenst mind being blind.
Ebon Dust Aura
[skill]diversion[/skill]
Oh man, I'm sorry. I guess that was just a
[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]
My bad. Your bad indeed. I want to see you do a dis shot on Ebon Dust.
In case you didnt know its 1/4 sec casting time.
Diversion might work, but then again your playing a mesmer and that doenst mind being blind.
Ebon Dust Aura
Str0b0
Well a good mesmer should destroy a melee opponent with ease. I agree ranger interrupts are way too slow to interrupt EDA unless you just get lucky. Diversion would only do so much. Yeah it would take a hella lot longer to recharge but I would still have it on and still be punking your melee team mates. Even without EDA a good dervish is far from useless and can still churn out impressive damage while waiting for the longer recharge time to elapse. Or alternatively the now diverted dervish could decide to go flip mode on you and beat you to death through that paper thin mesmer armor. LoL It would likely be a bad targeting decision but it would be satisfying.
ArKaiN
Why do people insist in fighting 1x1. Everything in the game has counters.
Str0b0
Well I was talking about a team environment but 1v1 has a certain appeal to it. Personally I think team based PvP is kinda dull but that is just me. Unfortunately GW doesn't really cater to 1v1 it is designed for team play and all 1v1 combat is inherently broken because of that.
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[DE]
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Originally Posted by Lorinda
Your bad indeed. I want to see you do a dis shot on Ebon Dust.
In case you didnt know its 1/4 sec casting time.
Diversion might work, but then again your playing a mesmer and that doenst mind being blind.
Ebon Dust Aura Faer was referring to touch rangers.
In case you didnt know its 1/4 sec casting time.
Diversion might work, but then again your playing a mesmer and that doenst mind being blind.
Ebon Dust Aura Faer was referring to touch rangers.
Mister O
[skill]plague touch[/skill]
[skill]rending touch[/skill]
[skill]shield bash[/skill]
any defensive stance
Just because some1 runs an anti-melee build doesn't make him a cheaters. If so the [skill]gladiator's defense[/skill] tanks are called cheaters instead of noobs.
If some1 is running your counter-build you can always ignore him and work on other target. If you are his target you can always kite/run around, let your teammates finish him, and be ready to get flamed by him "U ----ING RUNNING NOOB @!$@!$&^$% I PWN UR ----ING ---".
[skill]rending touch[/skill]
[skill]shield bash[/skill]
any defensive stance
Just because some1 runs an anti-melee build doesn't make him a cheaters. If so the [skill]gladiator's defense[/skill] tanks are called cheaters instead of noobs.
If some1 is running your counter-build you can always ignore him and work on other target. If you are his target you can always kite/run around, let your teammates finish him, and be ready to get flamed by him "U ----ING RUNNING NOOB @!$@!$&^$% I PWN UR ----ING ---".
OlMurraniKasale
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Originally Posted by MrFuzzles
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Originally Posted by MrFuzzles
Stop thinking in terms of 1v1. Blind is only cheating if you assume the whole game revolves around physical attacks.
You wrote my answer into a much shorter sentence; "if you assume the whole game revolves around physical attacks." Ritualists are hardly "completely" anything being blinded. If you think of it this way, Ritualists are supposed to be blind or hooded (according to Lore). Only a player who lets the 8 skill bar be his/her whole world can truly be blind.
Coloneh
sarcasm ftw
straight over OlMurraniKasale"s head..... haha
OlMurraniKasale
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
sarcasm ftw
straight over OlMurraniKasale"s head..... haha Hardly. A friend of mine, however, did miss it and I reasoned that others might too. Best to err than let direct sarcasm be seen as something else. No end of troubles then! Just look at the HoM . . .. azizul1975
as mentioned above , [skill]Plague Touch[/skill] nullify the effect of [skill]Ebon Dust Aura[/skill]... its like saying "here, take this back...."
bye the way, does the attack skill have to hit for the blindness to trigger ? or simply activating the attack skill will cause it? |
