A real Grind title! ..and a fun one too (serious suggestion)

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:...title_pl s.3F

If possible reply there pls

Eh...

NO. Please, no.

Kills of dummies are not counted after they first die, so people wanting to get such a title would have to zone, zone and rezone again.

Who said kills of dummies are not counted after they first die? Dummies respawn you can kill them million times without rezoning.

ps: DSPPMO

You know what i hate Grind but this is kind of funny.
only put rank 16 on 1.337.000 couse iff you wanna show of this makes it more funny.
But yet again im not doing it.

XDDD.

Yes, you can, but they do not count.No. They do not respawn. They resurrect. They are the very same monsters. And, as you know, resurrected monsters do not:
- Give XP.
- Drop items.
- Count for titles.

Just try this in one event with global drops.
Pick an elementalist, with huge AoE skills, and go kill them some times.
You may get 'global drops' (such as birthday cupcakes or easter eggs). But only ONCE, the first time you kill them.

I hate grind too. But I'd love this title. A paradox isn't it? I guess maybe because this isn't a grind-in-disguise title, so it's kinda fun.

Ever heard of computer programming? You know, the way GW was made?
Adding 1 programming line into a code for dummies is a piece of cake. How on earth do you think that new titles are made? Do you think that when they add titles they change nothing? How do you think Sunspear rank was made? Oh wait they made it so after blessing is used monsters generate sunspear points. Wow, but not all monsters do that randomly.

Besides, have you EVER seen Dummies on Isle of Nameless randomly dropping items and gold??



As the saying goes, 'against stupidity even the gods are helpless.'

Yup it is a paradox

The point is that there is no point.
Your point is pointless.

As pointless as thi title would be.
No gold sink as other titles.
No 'to show' time spend making something interesting.

This won't be much different like giving a title for hitting a button repeatedly.

Mithran, do you have any idea how pointless almost all titles in GW are? Do you have any idea how pointless GW actually is, as a whole? You you understand the concept of a game? See, games are pointless. That's one thing you need to learn - the pointlessness of games. That's the very nature of a game. When games became pointless, they become more than games.

They respawn so just go to the trebuchet and put a brick on your spacebar to reach the title overnight.

This is bullshit.

Mirror mirror on the wall...

Besides, no one complains about grinding amber jade and Kurzick/Luxon titles in Fort Aspenwood using the same method - brick on the keyboard. And after selling amber/jade you.. wow don't even need a brick to grind Lucky/Unlucky titles.

That's quite interesting, people are OK with using the existent C+space / brick etc titles, but the title that does the SAME and is equally difficult to achieve, and the only difference is - it's not disguised - then that title is BS?


Wake up.

lol he's got a point you know!

The other creatures FIGHT BACK.

Come back when dummies have pointed sticks or something.

The max title should be called 'Player of WoW'

Agree with Croco Clouds, and I would SO max this ****er just because.

/signed.

I wonder how many people would go beyond r1...
/signed! Just to find out :P

/notsigned

I just think its a dumb idea.

This topic fails miserably at satire.

We already have alot of wierd and pointless titles. But this one would just be too funny. Sense of humor ftw.

/Signed

And wow finally, a Zinger, the nihilist man. The one man to oppose the universe. Whenever Zinger rants about something you *know* it's good

As old Greeks used to say, stultorum infinitus numerus est.

Mithran, come back when you have some valid arguments OK? The things that you're saying make absolutely no sense. This is supposed to be Grind title, it has almost no requirements to get it aside of spending time which *gasps* is the point of any grind. If it wasn't grind, it would require time+fun+skill or time+fun... but anyway enough with philosophy.

You fail miserably because using the same logic:
1) Treasure Hunter - do chests fight back!?
2) Lucky/Unlucky title - that hurts ouch, the circles open up and swallow you!
3) Does leeching in Fort Aspenwood to get Friend of Kurzicks/Luxons hurt? Oh yea, I'm sure as a Luxon standing up there on a cliff doing nothing hurts. It's not like Kurzicks can even reach and hit me, yet, still, I get points for even losing!
4) Wisdom title - uh, identifying items hurts, I mean, item could be Cursed and ... do something bad.
5) Sweeth Tooth - oh this one surely hurts when you get toothache!
6) Drunkard - no comment

Ok, so out of the top of my head, I've named 7 titles which dont pass your requirements. Are you going to send a formal complaint to ANet or what?


There ought to be a law against stupidity.

/signed

Funny title, and Kali has some great points.

I suggest you look up "rant" in the dictionary, as my preceding post was most certainly not a rant. Otherwise, you'd be right.

This is mostly silly, not funny.

First of all, all titles require either actually playing the game, or money(which requires playing the game). And your's doesn't.

1)Treasure Hunter-There is a reason only high end chests give points, the monsters around them do fight back.

2)If you do it the way that doesn't require actually playing it costs alot of money.

3)You do actually have somewhat of a point there, except for the fact that somebody has to play for you to get points.

4)Either requires money to buy them or playing to find them.

5 and 6) All they really require is money (and time for drunkard).

I'm not saying that they shouldn't put it in (I'm sure people would do it just for the heck of it).
But I am saying Mithran has a point, and it would be the most pointless title in GW.

First of all, "stultorum infinitus numerus est" it's LATIN, not greek.
And just by reading your 'I'm right and anyone that do not agree with me is stupid' are the proof that you are part of that 'number' the sentence mentions.

You name nothing. My requirement is still 'having any game-related use', not being pointless.

Just you saying I'm not right doesn't change anything. Since I'm always right.
1. You have to GET to the chests. Monsters near the chests do not usually just say 'hello' and let you go. And you have to PAY for the keys and lockpicks, unless you want to spaend your whole life waiting for one to drop from... oh, yes... MONSTERS you have to KILL.
2. Either you open chests. So we go back to 1 again, or you go to the broadwalk... either way, you need MONEY again. So their use is still a GOLD SINK.
3. So... you say grinding for an useless title is as correct as leeching... so ou basically agree with my that such a tittle would be WRONG.
4. Rare Items do not grow out of trees, you smart guy. You still have to kill monsters, open chests or buy them to other players. So we go back to actually playing the game and gold sinks.
5. Sweets have actual uses in outposts, you run while you use them. On top of that, people that want to get that title quickly have to buy them (in events you can't have more that 2000 points or so with free stuff) so it's also a gold sink.
6. Oh... unless you have GW:EN an keep helping Kilroy or making Norn tournament, you are not getting beer for free. And every second you are making those quests an mini-games, you are not farming for gold.

So just quite the babble, and come back to reality. If such a la existed, you'll be in trouble, troll.

Even Legandary Defender of Ascalon has some 'use': people wanting it usually have to pay other to open the gate for them.

Nope. You don't need *somebody* to play for you. You also get points for losing. Even now, points for losing are enough to make people leech, and, before that points for losing were almost as good as points for winning (IIRC).

In other words, Kurzick Luxon title requires:
1) no money
2) no killing
3) nothing
4) at all



You do understand that most of the titles have no game use, that their only point is... well fun? And amusement?

Tell me, what is the point of Gamer title?

I wouldn't have a problem with your opinion otherwise but your opinions are kinda hypocritical and not even current titles pass your tests!

No, what I'm saying is if people like to grind give them a real fun grind title.

Oh come on this is a joke. These are pure grind titles.

How do you think I got to rank 5-6 (or what was it) Lightbringer? I loaded Heroes and Henchies, set them, zoned, took the shrine, and then kept pressing C+Space THE ENTIRE TIME! While my heroes were killing I was reading stuff. A quick tab for another C+space. Tab again to read websites. C+space, rinse repeat.

How on earth is this different than C+space killing Dummies on the Isle of the Nameless? Does it take more skill to C+Space with heroes and C+space alone? I don't see any different, really.

Besides, have you ever heard of Chest runs? What monster killing are you talking about. Yea you need to get money for keys first which, oh wait, you couldve gotten by many C+Space ways. Big deal.

The reality is that most of those titles can be gained through C+Space if you don't suck at the game.

The reality is, that some people don't pretend about those titles having a mythical significance, while some people like you worship them as if they have fallen from the sky right into your hands.



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PS: Besides, this title is meant to be UNIQUE. Using the argument "but this title isn't the same as others" or "but this title doesn't do all the same as others do" or "this title doesn't require everything others do" - is pointless. There would be no need for a new title which does everything the old one does.

I wonder if you go to the store and want to buy a watermelon, and then complain with "but it doesnt taste like an apple" "but it doesn't have the same color as an apple" "but it doesn't cost as much as apple" "but it's not the same size as apple". Well you know what - if you want an apple buy an apple.

No one freakin forces you to get this title, do they? So wtf is your problem.

Even if you leech you still require TIME, time in front of the machine, paying attention to send the character back.
Unless you use a bot to make the character get into the games... and that is AGAINST THE RULES.
Are you planning to to use bot programs to kill the dummies?

Most of the title HAVE use. They prove you did parts of the game. Missions, Exploration, chest opening.
Killing dummies for anything but testing purposes is not part of the game. It's just... as dumb as the dummies themselves. And you call 'amusement' to kill dummies? Well... my cat have a wood ball you may also enjoy for hours.

C+Space ligbringer titles? You do not really know what you are talking about.
You have to get the final tier in Hard Mode.

As far as I can tell, only someone that has found an nice bot program and wants to test it would go for this title.
Probable, since you also seem to think that the best way to get luxon/kurcick titles is by leeching (although almost anyone knows that is more a waste of time than anything else, since the Duel of the houses and the Jade Arena are WAAAAY faster and easier ways to get points).

Pointless. No matter what you say.

And killing Dummies doesn't require time?

And the point of this is...? Most of the birds can fly, shall we exterminate those who can't fly or what? Kill the penguins then.

And Grind title proves you killed Dummies.

Hmm yeah, and Sunspear/Lightbringer titles do what exactly? Oh wait, measure the amount of creatures you killed. The only difference is these creatures weren't called Dummies, and weren't on Isle of the Nameless. Still, you can C+Space both.

As opposed to other grind titles which result in increased IQ of the grinder? Please.

People have different ways of amusing themselves. I don't call grinding for any title an amusement, but people do it. People also farm which is dead boring to me.
So do you intend to remove all this because it doesn't pass the amusement test?

At least grinding Grind title would be more fun cause title levels would be amusing.

Yeah, and 7 levels you can get by C+space. No idea how it's in HMode since I didn't play it.

Using the same logic you can say only people with bot would go farm endlessly to get FoW.

Leeching is by far the best way to get Luxon/Kurzick titles, yes. It's not my oppinion its a fact.
No one said it's faster. Why would you need it to be faster. If you don't waste any time on getting the title (which you dont, if you leech) then you can take a bit more time and do other stuff in the meantime.


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Seriously, you know, you made several posts in this thread and every single one I've beaten in a debate. You don't have a single argument standing. I think my participation in this thread is not needed anymore. Adios.

You may get luxon/kurcick points by many other ways, such as blessings, quests, 12vs12...
You may get lightbringer/sunspears points in quests also.

And killing dummies has nothing to do with killing other creatures. Monster may fight back Dummies just die.

This is just a title for botters. Nothing else. A title for those that use bots.

Bots are against the EULA.

That was one of the funniest things in this thread.

On a more serious note, I'd like this. It's full of epic humor.

/signed.

It would be funny to run around towns with titles like that. But, being a funny title, it probably shouldn't affect KOABD/HoM/etc., otherwise title min/maxers will ruin the novelty.

Also, rank 7 should be "My grind...it is over nine-thousaaaaand!!!". And I second the 1,337,000 title (tier 17), though I think it should be called "My Life is Naught but Grind".

Edit: Wait, you get rank 1 for doing nothing?

Ok, you're all taking this much too seriously.
Watch me summarize your arguments:

Mithran: Titles should involve skill/have a point to them
Kali: None of the current titles involve skill/have a point

I'll give you the simple version: Yes.

I'd like to think of that as subtle, clever commentary on the title system in general.