This boss (and the entire Orr Dungeon, as well as others) is indicative of the entire EotN experience. anet's attempt at making the game "more challenging" has resulted in the same old "more enemies closer together that spike the team and let's add some area fire and poison damage" scenario.
Not exactly what fun is all about; running around to every mob to kill one priest with 60 dp. I can appreciate a candy cane sink once in a while, but I have enough Gwen crap in my inventory as it is, don't force me to carry more.
I guess this is a LEAST favorite dungeon thread: let's hear yours.
KANE
Fendi Nin (Least Favorite Dungeon Thread)
KANE OG
Stolen Souls
Frostmaw's is probably my favorite and least favorite at the same time. I know that sounds weird, lol.
It's all great...fine and dandy and fun...until things turn for the worst, and the Jotun + Mandragor + Incubus groups decide to merge and wipe the party repeatedly to 60dp. Also throw in the stubborn Frost Wurm that decides to pop up at just the right moment. The two Diamond reward (3.4k) I got from the end chest was soooo worth it. xD
I have NEVER, in GW or any game...gotten frustrated to the point of punching my keyboard...until GWEN... -_-
It's all great...fine and dandy and fun...until things turn for the worst, and the Jotun + Mandragor + Incubus groups decide to merge and wipe the party repeatedly to 60dp. Also throw in the stubborn Frost Wurm that decides to pop up at just the right moment. The two Diamond reward (3.4k) I got from the end chest was soooo worth it. xD
I have NEVER, in GW or any game...gotten frustrated to the point of punching my keyboard...until GWEN... -_-
yesitsrob
Maybe if you died less you wouldn't have to chase things around with 60DP. The only issue I have with the dungeon is the boss takes so long to take and there's an glitch which happens sometimes.
KANE OG
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Maybe if you died less you wouldn't have to chase things around with 60DP. The only issue I have with the dungeon is the boss takes so long to take and there's an glitch which happens sometimes.
Four times, with different h/h builds, if you must know. And "The glitch" (which I didn't even mention) happenned twice. I can fight thru a glitch, no problem, but not an entire buggy game.... which seems to me is prevalent in EotN.
This dungeon, glitch aside, is the most frustrating to me. Care to share YOUR setup? A warrior is screwed down here unless it's set up as a caster.
KANE
This dungeon, glitch aside, is the most frustrating to me. Care to share YOUR setup? A warrior is screwed down here unless it's set up as a caster.
KANE
Sasuke The Betrayer
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Originally Posted by KANE OG
This boss (and the entire Orr Dungeon, as well as others) is indicative of the entire EotN experience. anet's attempt at making the game "more challenging" has resulted in the same old "more enemies closer together that spike the team and let's add some area fire and poison damage" scenario.
Not exactly what fun is all about; running around to every mob to kill one priest with 60 dp. I can appreciate a candy cane sink once in a while, but I have enough Gwen crap in my inventory as it is, don't force me to carry more.
I guess this is a LEAST favorite dungeon thread: let's hear yours.
KANE Lol. I'm a warrior and i H/H'ed Shards of Orr just fine. I've done everything else too, except one other one I forgot.. (I did slaver's exile with a friend). The only problem I had was... the boss kept wiping my party to 60% DP, but he was going down. After I had cornered him, I hit my dolyak and didn't let those rit spikers that come out with him get me. When he turned back to his non-soul form, the undead all spawned together so they were nuked easily. (Dual Attunement builds=Longgggg nuking). Also, they don't even have bows... so... it'd be alot harder if they did. Shards of Orr isn't hard, just the boss takes a while... too long imo...
Not exactly what fun is all about; running around to every mob to kill one priest with 60 dp. I can appreciate a candy cane sink once in a while, but I have enough Gwen crap in my inventory as it is, don't force me to carry more.
I guess this is a LEAST favorite dungeon thread: let's hear yours.
KANE Lol. I'm a warrior and i H/H'ed Shards of Orr just fine. I've done everything else too, except one other one I forgot.. (I did slaver's exile with a friend). The only problem I had was... the boss kept wiping my party to 60% DP, but he was going down. After I had cornered him, I hit my dolyak and didn't let those rit spikers that come out with him get me. When he turned back to his non-soul form, the undead all spawned together so they were nuked easily. (Dual Attunement builds=Longgggg nuking). Also, they don't even have bows... so... it'd be alot harder if they did. Shards of Orr isn't hard, just the boss takes a while... too long imo...
yesitsrob
Sight Beyond Sight. You don't even need to chase monks, actually since they have SoD it's genereally not a good idea to stick on a target, the groups are all squishy and don't last long. And you're one person out of 8.
The glitch I am referring to by the way is where when you light all the braziers the boss with the key doesn't spawn until you backtrack to the start or something.
The glitch I am referring to by the way is where when you light all the braziers the boss with the key doesn't spawn until you backtrack to the start or something.
Enko
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Originally Posted by yesitsrob
Sight Beyond Sight. You don't even need to chase monks, actually since they have SoD it's genereally not a good idea to stick on a target, the groups are all squishy and don't last long. And you're one person out of 8.
The glitch I am referring to by the way is where when you light all the braziers the boss with the key doesn't spawn until you backtrack to the start or something. i had that happen to me. didn't know what was going on until i decided to map out the entire dungeon again.
The glitch I am referring to by the way is where when you light all the braziers the boss with the key doesn't spawn until you backtrack to the start or something. i had that happen to me. didn't know what was going on until i decided to map out the entire dungeon again.
OlMurraniKasale
The Elusive Golemancer portion where you are stuck running through ten gazillion fracking fire traps - there isn't a clue that you should speak to the worker golem, and even then there's ten gazillion sentry golems you have to fight while that worker rumbles down the path, leaving you without the protection. Like was said above, ANet's version of "let's make it challenge" which really in this ONE particular case is just piss poor. I've been in similar fire traps and this one is WAY overpowered.
I've tried it pulling them bastards my way to clear some out, tried with four fracking monks, it just royally makes me mad.
Oh well, off to buy a new keyboard.
I've tried it pulling them bastards my way to clear some out, tried with four fracking monks, it just royally makes me mad.
Oh well, off to buy a new keyboard.
Longasc
KANE OG, OlMurraniKasale... come on.
Before the Internet players tried again, games were a lot harder and players probably a lot better than nowadays.
Shards of Orr is a bit harder, but the quest is called "Master" for a reason. Yet you want to make it another scrub dungeon. Better accept that you are just not that good.
Sorry about the few Golems that dared to destroy your nice little walk in the park. Sounds as if you had to fight for your life.
OK. ANet will reduce the fire arrow traps to 3-4, most of them in the far corner so that they cannot harm you. -> Then the game is fun again?
Sounds almost like the whine from guys that find Chromatic Drakes "ridiculously overpowered".
My least favorite dungeons are probably Fronis Irontoe's and Secret Snowmen Lair. One-time gimmick dungeons. Bogroot Growths is pretty boring, a very good idea but wasted by the small size and little action/interaction.
Before the Internet players tried again, games were a lot harder and players probably a lot better than nowadays.
Shards of Orr is a bit harder, but the quest is called "Master" for a reason. Yet you want to make it another scrub dungeon. Better accept that you are just not that good.
Sorry about the few Golems that dared to destroy your nice little walk in the park. Sounds as if you had to fight for your life.
OK. ANet will reduce the fire arrow traps to 3-4, most of them in the far corner so that they cannot harm you. -> Then the game is fun again?
Sounds almost like the whine from guys that find Chromatic Drakes "ridiculously overpowered".
My least favorite dungeons are probably Fronis Irontoe's and Secret Snowmen Lair. One-time gimmick dungeons. Bogroot Growths is pretty boring, a very good idea but wasted by the small size and little action/interaction.
genofreek
That part of Elusive Golemancer wasn't really tricky, just difficult. Either you have heroes and hench racing out of the tiny area of protection the worker golem grants, or PUGged allies crowding in so close that the sentry mobs bodyblock you and pick you off from there.
Can you speak to the worker to stop him from trundling on without you? I keep thinking I tried to do that, but I was so busy it might not've gone through.
Either way, the "brilliant tricks" in that dungeon were pathetically easy, at least to this longtime Zelda player.
Can you speak to the worker to stop him from trundling on without you? I keep thinking I tried to do that, but I was so busy it might not've gone through.
Either way, the "brilliant tricks" in that dungeon were pathetically easy, at least to this longtime Zelda player.
Tender Wolf
My least fave is definately Heart of the Shiverpeaks. I haven't done that many but Cyndr is ridiculously hard. I hated that quest and what's worse is that it was a primary.
Crom The Pale
Fendi Nin is one strange boss to have to kill, again and again it seamed...
I and a freind go to him with little problems, but once there it took several deaths of him and his summoned followers to complete the dungeon.
I could understand one respawning, but 5????
I and a freind go to him with little problems, but once there it took several deaths of him and his summoned followers to complete the dungeon.
I could understand one respawning, but 5????
stamenflicker
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My least fave is definately Heart of the Shiverpeaks. I haven't done that many but Cyndr is ridiculously hard. I hated that quest and what's worse is that it was a primary.
I blew Cyndar out of the water... but there have been others that drove me absolutely insane. One thing is certain, Restore Condition is a great skill to take in almost every dungeon. I usually couple it with draw conditions or Cautery Sig on a paragon hero and things go fine.
VitisVinifera
I did this one two nights ago for the first time. I had no idea what was in it, so I went with myself (axe attacker wammo), hero mm, hero ss, hero nuker, 2 hench monks, interrupter, and earth ele.
We did fairly well until the third and last level, when dp started stacking up. The key is to flag your guys behind a wall and pull ahead of that point. Of course, that's where it helps to be a tank.
By the time I got to Fendi, we (h&h) were all about 30 dp, and it took me a while to figure out Fendi. Suffice it to say it took me about 20 runs to Fendi doing a little damage at a time, full dp'ed. Whole thing took over 2 hours, but this was my first time and didn't know what to expect or who to take.
The end got very frustrating but I was consoled that Fendi didn't heal himself between runs at him. And I got his green focus from the chest, so I considered it a moderate success.
I'd say the most frustrating aspect of it was that most packs had 2 healers (a cleric and a priest), which means you gotta just hack and blast away at one until both healer's energy is gone, all the while absorbing all the damage from the whole mob. This should be nerfed such that each pack has only 1 healer.
edit: yeah Kane you are right, a warrior is screwed --> most of the time you are blinded. I didn't know that going in. What is this 'bug' you are talking about?
We did fairly well until the third and last level, when dp started stacking up. The key is to flag your guys behind a wall and pull ahead of that point. Of course, that's where it helps to be a tank.
By the time I got to Fendi, we (h&h) were all about 30 dp, and it took me a while to figure out Fendi. Suffice it to say it took me about 20 runs to Fendi doing a little damage at a time, full dp'ed. Whole thing took over 2 hours, but this was my first time and didn't know what to expect or who to take.
The end got very frustrating but I was consoled that Fendi didn't heal himself between runs at him. And I got his green focus from the chest, so I considered it a moderate success.
I'd say the most frustrating aspect of it was that most packs had 2 healers (a cleric and a priest), which means you gotta just hack and blast away at one until both healer's energy is gone, all the while absorbing all the damage from the whole mob. This should be nerfed such that each pack has only 1 healer.
edit: yeah Kane you are right, a warrior is screwed --> most of the time you are blinded. I didn't know that going in. What is this 'bug' you are talking about?
Vanessa Dwager
I thought GW:EN was hard until I realized I wasn't doing it right. Chromatic drakes aren't that hard to kill, take a mesmer and pack her with interrupts. Cyder of the Mountain is easier with humans since H/H tend to group around you and they don't carry bombs to cynder.
This reminds me of when everyone used to complain the titans were too damn hard.
This reminds me of when everyone used to complain the titans were too damn hard.
Shaz
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Can you speak to the worker to stop him from trundling on without you? I keep thinking I tried to do that, but I was so busy it might not've gone through.
Not sure, I don't think so though. But last time I did it, body blocking worked. Kill off any Sentry then let him walk again, he doesnt walk that fast so body blocking is not too hard. Even with H/H team, you just need to flag them.
foo
I love Fendi Nin!
at last a worthy foe.
at last a worthy foe.
Striker IV
least fav dungeon
has to be bogroot cave, cant even fire nuke em cuz they use dormant husk, and constant -5 degens
has to be bogroot cave, cant even fire nuke em cuz they use dormant husk, and constant -5 degens
OlMurraniKasale
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Originally Posted by Longasc
Better accept that you are just not that good.
I accept it everyday I read replies like this one. Otherwise I'd have a better come back than this.
This thread is about least favorite dungeon, not an endless discussion about what you think compared to what I think. Stick with that instead of making statements about other people, and we will get along famously.
This thread is about least favorite dungeon, not an endless discussion about what you think compared to what I think. Stick with that instead of making statements about other people, and we will get along famously.
cryptology
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My least fave is definately Heart of the Shiverpeaks. I haven't done that many but Cyndr is ridiculously hard. I hated that quest and what's worse is that it was a primary.
Did you realize you could drop blackpowder's kegs on him and his armor would go away? It literally took me 2 minutes to kill Cyndr with h/h on my Dervish.
Heart of the Shiverpeaks is actually my favorite of the dungeons I've done so far.
Chromatic Drakes are also way easy... I don't see how people have trouble with them. I bring Interrupt, Blood/Fire, Protect and Heal henchies along with my SS necro hero, Jora, and my straight healing Dunkoro. The drakes don't stand a chance for some reason.
Heart of the Shiverpeaks is actually my favorite of the dungeons I've done so far.
Chromatic Drakes are also way easy... I don't see how people have trouble with them. I bring Interrupt, Blood/Fire, Protect and Heal henchies along with my SS necro hero, Jora, and my straight healing Dunkoro. The drakes don't stand a chance for some reason.
Buster
First time I did Shards of Orr my team got wiped and had 60 dp almost throughout the entire dunegon run but we finally made it. Next time that silent clown is going down in a heartbeat!
Well99
There are several that tic me off.I hate when they mob.A circle and a half from my agro circle and they know I am there.So much for strategy.No need to pull with critters like that.I beaten Heart before but this morning SV didnt work or any degen.Yes I know about the barrels and used them still just wouldnt work at a quarter red.I know it was bugged before but this wasnt when it was running a blue bar.It could of been lag because I had been kicked but thanks to reconnect was brought back to my spot.It just gets old to put that much effort in and skills arent working.Couldnt interupt and para had interupt chant and ranger was set up for interupt.Also had hench ME.Even my monk had interupt.Oh well
Chronos the Defiler
i was a Obsid Tank in Shards. Flag heroes back, run in and take full aggro...unleash heroes and watch the nukes fall.
When you get to Nendi himself....just flag your heroes away, run around until he runs into a corner (the little structures near the entrance to his little "domain" work wonderfully) Set your nukers just outside your aggro range and the hench further away, and he will TRY to use suffering etc. on your hench, but he is stuck and can't reach them so he is rendered completely powerless in the corner. and once again...watch the nukes fall
When you get to Nendi himself....just flag your heroes away, run around until he runs into a corner (the little structures near the entrance to his little "domain" work wonderfully) Set your nukers just outside your aggro range and the hench further away, and he will TRY to use suffering etc. on your hench, but he is stuck and can't reach them so he is rendered completely powerless in the corner. and once again...watch the nukes fall
Dr Strangelove
AoE > Shards of orr. Splinter weapon on a couple warriors, along with a hero smite monk made the whole thing insanely easy. Didn't wipe a single time, and happily leroyed into every mob.
Sprites
cathedral of flame , because it's easy except the very annoying boss
Malice Black
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cathedral of flame , because it's easy except the very annoying boss
Picked this tip up from Ractoe..bring the Pve skill 'You Move Like A Dwarf" KD+cripple..makes that boss very easy, or if you don't have that, some interupts or a KD warrior will do.
My least favorite is Shards of Orr, I went in unprepared and got wiped many times. Know how to defeat it now though, so I'll go back to do it eventually.
Lair of the Snowman was a joke tbh..
My least favorite is Shards of Orr, I went in unprepared and got wiped many times. Know how to defeat it now though, so I'll go back to do it eventually.
Lair of the Snowman was a joke tbh..
B B
SoJ spiking undead is fun...
Fox Reeveheart
my least favorite is bogroot and shards
shards because i have YET to get past the group of undead that is all casters. they are sitting between the two gas traps. CANT do it to save my life. got to them with 15dp, ended with 60 and just couldnt do it!
bogroot because I can't kill those group of plant monsters to save my life! What the heck! How do you beat these guys?
I havent done too many though. Did oola's lab, bloodstone caves, arachni's haunt (THIS WAS ANNOYING) and ooze pit.
arachni's haunt i had to do twice because first time got all the way to the boss and had a crap build against him where he wiped us no problem. second time blinded his butt and he was a kitten
shards because i have YET to get past the group of undead that is all casters. they are sitting between the two gas traps. CANT do it to save my life. got to them with 15dp, ended with 60 and just couldnt do it!
bogroot because I can't kill those group of plant monsters to save my life! What the heck! How do you beat these guys?
I havent done too many though. Did oola's lab, bloodstone caves, arachni's haunt (THIS WAS ANNOYING) and ooze pit.
arachni's haunt i had to do twice because first time got all the way to the boss and had a crap build against him where he wiped us no problem. second time blinded his butt and he was a kitten