Seeping Wound Sin

This Elite is hardly ever used... while it seems like a good choice to me. Shadow Prison Sins are considered to be very powerful, but SP requires a substantial investment in Deadly Arts, while SW can be run with a more robust CritS/DaggM/ShadA build. It recharges much faster than SP, and there are other ways to gain entry. I've had decent success in ABing with:

[skill]Seeping Wound[/skill][skill]Black Lotus Strike[/skill][skill]Horns of the Ox[/skill][skill]Falling Spider[/skill][skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill][skill]Shadow Refuge[/skill][skill]Shadow of Haste[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill]

When I get NF it'll probably be changed to

[skill]Seeping Wound[/skill][skill]Black Lotus Strike[/skill][skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill][skill]Black Spider Strike[/skill][skill]Blades of Steel[/skill][skill]Shadow Refuge[/skill][skill]Shadow of Haste[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill]

...unless anyone can offer me some advice. Damage potential is insane, I've witnessed that already. The 'Blind = GG Sin' statement also doesn't apply to this build as there are means to get out of combat fast. In the context of ABing, Dash and Shadow Refuge are excellent stand-alone skills, enabling the Sin to get around very fast and quickly get up to full health when out of danger. Things I don't like are the lack of a snare (though SoA's speed boost makes up for that to a degree) and the lack of an interrupt in the second build (which I still consider to be more powerful, the speed with which it kills might well be enough).

There's a larger time window for the opponent to remove it, that's a given. But one doesn't have to commit fully after hexing the opponent; there's still time to back out and quickly hex someone else Never mind the gratitude from the Rangers in my party

- Cheaper
- Faster recharge
- Still the option for Shadow Arts' good utility skills

When you look at it this way, isn't Seeping Wound more powerful (practical) than Shadow Prison?

SP= Snare and shadowstep

Seeping wound=degen

Nuff said.

it doesnt suck. when you get nightfall, you can also swap shadow of haste for shadow walk and voila you can teleport as well

@ lacasner:
Noted. Now how would one get out with an SP Sin if things go awry (by Blinders, blockers, Hex removal etc.)? And can they still do as much damage without skipping on a self-heal?

Investing in Deadly Arts instead of Shadow Arts has proven a major deterrent, at least to me. When one has Twisting Fangs there's no need for Impale, so to speak. And SW allows support from a distance to your Rangers and other degen specialists. I run 13 CritS, meaning that a hexed enemy will suffer 4 pips of extra degen (8HP/sec). That's nothing to be sniffed at.

@ Cytherea:
Seen that I hadn't factored it in yet because I do not know whether I'll miss SoA's speed boost (and the fact that SoA's attack run is waaay cool). But I'll be sure to try! The downside is that I can't cast Enchantments for 30sec, so no Shadow Refuge. On the other hand, going Ranger secondary, putting the 8 from Shadow Arts into Wilderness Survival, allows for a good Troll Unguent. Less of an in-combat heal, of course, but more health gain (unconditional!) for my energy Thanks for inciting me to figure that one out!

i know you are trying to avoid deadly arts, but a lot of times it can't be avoided. one option is to cut back on critical strikes (although it doesnt work very well with your particular build), maybe go 3 critical strikes, and boost deadly arts instead. if you want degen, i am finding enduring toxin to be usesful. it can go up to -5, casts in 1/4 sec, and doesnt require poison/bleeding. it also adds pressure for the enemy not to run, or if they do run it can degen them until they die. main thing though, its not an elite, so you can save keep more important skills like shadow prison, or mobieus, etc.

GWEN added 2 new options for energy management that are not critical strikes attribute and its pretty nice...

eSeeping Wound is fun... degen is fun... like setting Ranger traps and watching Charmables walk into 'em and dying...
But direct dmg things... "spiking"(?) are the prime of assassinanation.
Like Death Blossom and eMoebius Strike or Repeating Strike and eWay of the Empty Palm.

get a better elite and you could have a decent build.

@ craig:

I can see where you're taking this, and it's a direction I'll most definitely try sometime. But I started out searching for a build that could abuse the Black offhands without dipping into Deadly, and I won't admit defeat so easily!

@ xaleo:

C'mon. Mass degen is just as much a Sin's forte as raw damage, and shouldn't be mutually exclusive! 20HP/sec adds up fast. I consider this just as much a form of spiking. Besides, Blades of Steel pwns DB when it comes to raw damage, TF gives Deep Wound (free damage) and those Blacks aren't too shabby either!

@ Coloneh:

It seems that each time I see your name, you blurt out an unsupported opinion, not constructive in the least. Either change your attitude or do not bother to answer my questions anymore.

Where would you used this? I see no res.

You don't see it used often because it's 4 degen... conditional, hex.
Take Conjure Phantasm >_>

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