Relic of Rin, Diessa's Chalice, wrong drop rate?
ryanryanryan0310
Most likely when HM comes out they'll increase the drop rate. They can't give you all the goodies in one month.
undeadgun
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Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
Most likely when HM comes out they'll increase the drop rate. They can't give you all the goodies in one month.
well said
12 chars
12 chars
knifff
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greyf0x_f0x
Over the course of 6 runs of the dungeon, I found 1... They seriously need to look at the drop rate on these -_-
Velvet Wing
Well, let's just hope Anet fixes this when HM will be implemented. Until then, only thing we can do is hope/pray ^^
Omnidragon42
I see like one chalice every 2-3 runs, it's a stupid low drop rate
Never seen a relic of rin.
Never seen a relic of rin.
Dahnel
Maybe its because they are called Golden Rin Relics, Get it right. Thanks.
Bloodflesh
50 runs and zero
Yes ... ZERO
Not one single Relic or Chalice.
Out of curiousity, is it true the blindfold cannot be dyed? if this is true Id like to know now before I waste *more* of my time.
Yes ... ZERO
Not one single Relic or Chalice.
Out of curiousity, is it true the blindfold cannot be dyed? if this is true Id like to know now before I waste *more* of my time.
trobinson97
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Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
Most likely when HM comes out they'll increase the drop rate. They can't give you all the goodies in one month.
Why not? The drop rate is bugged. Blindfolds aren't such prestigious items that it takes HM to get them. It's just a blackish bar across your face and can't even be dyed. That's not so much a goodie, at least from where I'm standing, that I should have to wait til hard mode to get a decent drop rate of the items use to trade for it. The dread mask looks like a random Dragon Festival hat. It's bugged plain and simple until Anet chooses to say otherwise.
Why not? The drop rate is bugged. Blindfolds aren't such prestigious items that it takes HM to get them. It's just a blackish bar across your face and can't even be dyed. That's not so much a goodie, at least from where I'm standing, that I should have to wait til hard mode to get a decent drop rate of the items use to trade for it. The dread mask looks like a random Dragon Festival hat. It's bugged plain and simple until Anet chooses to say otherwise.
Woden
The first time I did the dungeon, I got a chalice from the first enemy I killed. As you can guess, I still have yet to see another one drop. My first thought was "Hey, I can get that headgear pretty quickly maybe." By the end of my second time through I had changed my position somewhat.
thezed
Wow, I must be lucky. Done the dungeon once and got one of both.
Seraphic Divinity
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Originally Posted by Bloodflesh
50 runs and zero
Yes ... ZERO
Not one single Relic or Chalice.
Out of curiousity, is it true the blindfold cannot be dyed? if this is true Id like to know now before I waste *more* of my time. Zero? =\
I've done about 30, and have gotten 17 Golden Rin Relics (don't know how many chalices I've gotten, but I get them much more frequently then rin relics), been selling them for 30k a pop while its hot. Maybe because clearing out dungeons isn't people's forte.
Most people do Cathedral of flames as fast as possible, skipping un-necessary groups, which I go out of my way to kill, and just so happen to drop diessa chalices and golden rin relics often.
Yes ... ZERO
Not one single Relic or Chalice.
Out of curiousity, is it true the blindfold cannot be dyed? if this is true Id like to know now before I waste *more* of my time. Zero? =\
I've done about 30, and have gotten 17 Golden Rin Relics (don't know how many chalices I've gotten, but I get them much more frequently then rin relics), been selling them for 30k a pop while its hot. Maybe because clearing out dungeons isn't people's forte.
Most people do Cathedral of flames as fast as possible, skipping un-necessary groups, which I go out of my way to kill, and just so happen to drop diessa chalices and golden rin relics often.
My Sweet Revenga
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Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
Most likely when HM comes out they'll increase the drop rate. They can't give you all the goodies in one month.
Fair enough. But there is a fine line to the balance. You've just stated one end of the arguement. Unfortunately, the drop rate as it is is almost at the absolute other end, that is the drop rate is obscenely low. There's maybe a small handful of people who have the blindfold/mask. At this rate, I doubt if even a quarter of GW players will have either mask or blindfold in a year's time. Not that I'm saying there won't be enough of these relics to have dropped to give this quarter of the population a mask or blindfold.... but most people want one so you'll have a lot of people with somewhere around like 3-10 of these relics and nothing else to show for it. Some will have to give up and sell, others will try to hold out.
lursey
I like the challenge, please don't increase the drop rate.. or else it just doesn't mean anything.
trobinson97
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Originally Posted by lursey
I like the challenge, please don't increase the drop rate.. or else it just doesn't mean anything.
It doesn't mean anything now.
Bloodflesh
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Originally Posted by lursey
I like the challenge, please don't increase the drop rate.. or else it just doesn't mean anything.
Its the same as the titles.
GWEN is just one big grind fest.
GWEN is just one big grind fest.
lennymon
The relics are invisible unless you are blind. (kidding)
Never gotten either yet, not a single one.
Never gotten either yet, not a single one.
MoldyRiceFrenzy
um, it cost me 100k for blindfold... so much wasted money if they socialize it.
and yet still not dyable ftl.
and yet still not dyable ftl.
HawaiiGamer
This is the dread mask. I got it in the 2nd week after 1 week spent spamming in doomlore to buy relics. Yeah, it cost me the price of a small kingdom but I wanted it.
I to was fed up with the low drop rate on the relics. Even paying 10k+ each I'd go hours without finding a seller. In the beginning I was able to buy a few for 500g each but as people learned what relics were and what they were for I started to get competitors. The bidding wars began the seems to have found level ground at the 10k each mark.
Farming the relics will give you something to do until GW2 is released. Or, you can be like me and buy them at rediculous prices.
fireflyry
While I agree the drop rate needs to be increased slightly the idea of these armor pieces in a high-end installment is that you have to work/grind to get them....a lot.
Firstly to adhere to the rule an item is more attractive and rewarding if it's hard to get secondly so every second character is'nt running around with a blindfold on.
I have no issues if it takes me a few months to get such an item, it's the only one I want in EotN as it will suit the theme of my character and I'll be stoked when I finally get it, far more so than if it took me a few days.
I think many people are just to impatient and want every special armor item the day after release when these were intended to be long term goals and rewards not something you can get in a week.
This quote from another thread sums it up perfectly:
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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
Firstly to adhere to the rule an item is more attractive and rewarding if it's hard to get secondly so every second character is'nt running around with a blindfold on.
I have no issues if it takes me a few months to get such an item, it's the only one I want in EotN as it will suit the theme of my character and I'll be stoked when I finally get it, far more so than if it took me a few days.
I think many people are just to impatient and want every special armor item the day after release when these were intended to be long term goals and rewards not something you can get in a week.
This quote from another thread sums it up perfectly:
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. If you want something of prestige, you need to work for it. Otherwise, it has no prestige. If you disagree that its prestigious, then obviously you don't care enough to work for it and thus, have nothing to complain about.
Bloodflesh
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Originally Posted by fireflyry
While I agree the drop rate needs to be increased slightly the idea of these armor pieces in a high-end installment is that you have to work/grind to get them....a lot.
Firstly to adhere to the rule an item is more attractive and rewarding if it's hard to get secondly so every second character is'nt running around with a blindfold on.
I have no issues if it takes me a few months to get such an item, it's the only one I want in EotN as it will suit the theme of my character and I'll be stoked when I finally get it, far more so than if it took me a few days.
I think many people are just to impatient and want every special armor item the day after release when these were intended to be long term goals and rewards not something you can get in a week. As I understand your point, There is a difference between impatience and frustration. As I stated before .. I have done 50 complete runs of the cathedral, if it moved; I killed it, if it was a red dot; I killed it and not 1 single relic or chalice was droped.
It just seems a bit hippocritical to me of Anet and playNC to nerf farming, frown apon it and even go to the extend of banning people for it then go and create things like title specific crafters and items that for example require 100 glacial stones to craft, I've taken 5 chars through GWEN completely and only found 20 stones. Lets not mention the Treasure Map pieces which are completely random. Lets just face it ... GWEN is just some big farm fest used to fill in the gap and buy time till GW 2 is released, in which we will be needing more items from GWEN.
Firstly to adhere to the rule an item is more attractive and rewarding if it's hard to get secondly so every second character is'nt running around with a blindfold on.
I have no issues if it takes me a few months to get such an item, it's the only one I want in EotN as it will suit the theme of my character and I'll be stoked when I finally get it, far more so than if it took me a few days.
I think many people are just to impatient and want every special armor item the day after release when these were intended to be long term goals and rewards not something you can get in a week. As I understand your point, There is a difference between impatience and frustration. As I stated before .. I have done 50 complete runs of the cathedral, if it moved; I killed it, if it was a red dot; I killed it and not 1 single relic or chalice was droped.
It just seems a bit hippocritical to me of Anet and playNC to nerf farming, frown apon it and even go to the extend of banning people for it then go and create things like title specific crafters and items that for example require 100 glacial stones to craft, I've taken 5 chars through GWEN completely and only found 20 stones. Lets not mention the Treasure Map pieces which are completely random. Lets just face it ... GWEN is just some big farm fest used to fill in the gap and buy time till GW 2 is released, in which we will be needing more items from GWEN.
fireflyry
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Originally Posted by Bloodflesh
It just seems a bit hippocritical to me of Anet and playNC to nerf farming, frown apon it and even go to the extend of banning people for it then go and create things like title specific crafters and items that for example require 100 glacial stones to craft Superb point and I agree on the blatant contradiction there.
Kaida the Heartless
I see more people running about with 75 ecto chaos gloves and 250 core destroyer gauntlets than I do blindfolds or dread masks.
Something is amiss here...
Something is amiss here...
knifff
Gemstones in torment were a challenge, strong mobs with decent drop rate.
Here we have weak mobs (really weak when you think you can do 100 to 300dmg each hit) and horrible drop rate.
At least they could add one of these in the dungeon chest as a third drop.
Here we have weak mobs (really weak when you think you can do 100 to 300dmg each hit) and horrible drop rate.
At least they could add one of these in the dungeon chest as a third drop.
unknown1
They will probaly be higher rate drops for hm
Origin Kaiser
So.... About these drops being higher in HM...? What's the status? Has anyone seen better drops doing HM runs rather than normal?
Jhadur
Did a run through the dungeon in HM at the weekend didn't see a relic or chalice at all
Fjalar
Hi everyone , I usually farm Murakai everyday like 3 times a day. I do this since two weeks ago , wich means a not bad number of runs in this dungeon.
Everything I can say is that I have 15 Diessa Chalices and 5 of them are gifts from friends. I do this Dugeon with H/H but eaven knowing that I really think it's rare that I NEVER had a Relic drop, this is like a joke man, I really hope Anet repair this shit.... I'll never get my mask if this continues like now...
Everything I can say is that I have 15 Diessa Chalices and 5 of them are gifts from friends. I do this Dugeon with H/H but eaven knowing that I really think it's rare that I NEVER had a Relic drop, this is like a joke man, I really hope Anet repair this shit.... I'll never get my mask if this continues like now...
intarwebs
Are they affected by loot scaling?
If not, you may be able to 2 or 3 man them..
If not, you may be able to 2 or 3 man them..
Karyuu
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Originally Posted by intarwebs
Are they affected by loot scaling?
That's a question I'm interested in as well... I've found CoF one of the most efficient dungeons to run through with the builds I have, so I'm there at least two times a day. But since the week EotN was launched, I've only found one rin relic and maybe 20 chalices. I'd certainly not want to have a complete set within a week or two, but at this rate.... eep.
Aranox
I have done little else then farm this dungeon since I finished EotN (a few days after release)
Haven't counted how many times I've run the dungeon, but to give you a general idea:
- I have all the greens (several more then once)
- I have bought 2 elite armors with the money made from this dungeon (only drops and merch fodder)
I now have 4 diessa chalices and 0 rin relics.
This is really getting rediculous...
Haven't counted how many times I've run the dungeon, but to give you a general idea:
- I have all the greens (several more then once)
- I have bought 2 elite armors with the money made from this dungeon (only drops and merch fodder)
I now have 4 diessa chalices and 0 rin relics.
This is really getting rediculous...
ReiNaruto
Yesterday night, I friend and me got 3 chalices in a run for each other.
Maybe it is just a luck issue.
Maybe it is just a luck issue.
Missmelady
The drop rate imo has increased in hm. Currently I run a 3 man build 2 monks and a ranger.... If you dont know what it is i dont know what to tell you. We can easily get to the 3rd lvl but can not kill the boss. On average we get 4-5 rin relics a run that we sell and split the money 3 ways(if i am not running it with heros) Challices are a joke though. I see more of those drop in Nm then i have in Hm. I am always up for teaching people my farms and if you want to come with sometime just message me in game.
IGN is Glyph of Healing
IGN is Glyph of Healing
kielus
bah was also my idea to do 3 man cathedral, in NM i have to say it was worse than HM due to lack of dmg taken (pre-nerf conjure didn't trigger spirit bond ;/), now it's like walk in the park, including murakai (without wipes and with human party, killing only what's needed to be killed) it's ~1h in HM, with border kills it'll be around 1:30 (i belive even less, done with henchies boss only + few other groups on lvl3 in 1:15, few wipes on the way due to me chatting too much).
I have never yet encountered any of these two items though... and i mean never as i've done it several times. I do agree with statement it's about prestige, but i consider people being more amazed about easy to grind destro gloves or chaos gloves than actually quite rare blindfolds. Might be just me and i don't want to offend anyone, i really appreciate effort put to getting these and a bit jealous of course ^^ (me is lazy!), but still ... kinda weird with such a never dropping item
I have never yet encountered any of these two items though... and i mean never as i've done it several times. I do agree with statement it's about prestige, but i consider people being more amazed about easy to grind destro gloves or chaos gloves than actually quite rare blindfolds. Might be just me and i don't want to offend anyone, i really appreciate effort put to getting these and a bit jealous of course ^^ (me is lazy!), but still ... kinda weird with such a never dropping item
Nebulaz
fix this absurd drop rate!! the price is 20k-35k for a rin relic now! if you can find a seller!!
im not really into paying 650k for a headpiece.
what happened to this accessible to all concept?
Yes im farming there in HM now and i have acquired 4 chalices which totals 8k.
well i can buy a 3rd of a relic for that! ty from a player who is losing intrest
im not really into paying 650k for a headpiece.
what happened to this accessible to all concept?
Yes im farming there in HM now and i have acquired 4 chalices which totals 8k.
well i can buy a 3rd of a relic for that! ty from a player who is losing intrest
Redvex
Cathedral of flames is my favourite dungeon. I make it several time (only one in hm killing murakai) and i never get diessa or rin relic.
Mark Nevermiss
I do this stuff almost daily and have nothing to show for my efforts
Sheriff
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Originally Posted by Velvet Wing
Edit for grammer purposes
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tekDragon
I actually have the blindfold now. After 4- runs though cathedral with different characters I had all of one Diessa chalices. So i bit the bullet and bought them...
Damn even buying them was a grind but it was quicker (got lucky with a fella who sold me 20).
Damn even buying them was a grind but it was quicker (got lucky with a fella who sold me 20).