Is it me or is there a general lack of reputation points for doing quests in GWEN. Aside from clearing areas of monsters I can't seem to find any repeatable or non repeatable quests that grant a significant amount of reputation. I mean seriously how does ANET expect us to increase titles for Ebon, Norn and Asura with only a few areas to clear. At least the Dwarf reputation points are geared with Dungeons, thats 18 multilevel dungeons for Dwarf Reputation points and 3 single explorable areas for Ebon Vanguard ...
Whats up with this? Ebon faction comes from only 3 explorable areas? Can I get a comment from ANet what was your reasoning behind this? You should at least grant both Dwarf and Ebon from dungeons in Ebon related lands.
If I remember correctly during the preview we had the ability to earn reputation from repeating quests, why the change? Why should you care how we grind, you created grind let us grind for it in a way that makes some form of sense.
Not all reputation is created equal.
GloryFox
Racthoh
I found that a little odd myself, after clearing all of the dungeons and completing almost all of the quests my Ebon track was merely halfway to the 4th rank. Personally I would prefer if you didn't get those dwarf points in every single dungeon when the snowman level exists. That or the same number of rep points for repeating a dungeon.
Imaginos
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
Is it me or is there a general lack of reputation points for doing quests in GWEN. Aside from clearing areas of monsters I can't seem to find any repeatable or non repeatable quests that grant a significant amount of reputation. I mean seriously how does ANET expect us to increase titles for Ebon, Norn and Asura with only a few areas to clear. At least the Dwarf reputation points are geared with Dungeons, thats 18 multilevel dungeons for Dwarf Reputation points and 3 single explorable areas for Ebon Vanguard ...
Whats up with this? Ebon faction comes from only 3 explorable areas? Can I get a comment from ANet what was your reasoning behind this? You should at least grant both Dwarf and Ebon from dungeons in Ebon related lands.
If I remember correctly during the preview we had the ability to earn reputation from repeating quests, why the change? Why should you care how we grind, you created grind let us grind for it in a way that makes some form of sense. Not only that but Scantoth valley has no outpost making getting there to farm longer then just popping into some dungeons or outside olfstaed for points.
Whats up with this? Ebon faction comes from only 3 explorable areas? Can I get a comment from ANet what was your reasoning behind this? You should at least grant both Dwarf and Ebon from dungeons in Ebon related lands.
If I remember correctly during the preview we had the ability to earn reputation from repeating quests, why the change? Why should you care how we grind, you created grind let us grind for it in a way that makes some form of sense. Not only that but Scantoth valley has no outpost making getting there to farm longer then just popping into some dungeons or outside olfstaed for points.
GloryFox
I don't mind the trek to the valley, its easy to do, but like Racthoh I have also cleared every single dungeon by now (except-the snowman one) with my Paragon. However I'm also half-way to rank 4 for Ebon. Then it totally hit me.
MY GOSH HOW MANY TIMES MUST I KILL THE SAME CHARR IN SAME THREE AREAS JUST TO SEE SOME FRIGGEN ARMOR?
MY GOSH HOW MANY TIMES MUST I KILL THE SAME CHARR IN SAME THREE AREAS JUST TO SEE SOME FRIGGEN ARMOR?
undeadgun
Glory Fox i have to agree with u on this, imo, easiest point is dwarven, then norn and asura, hardest is Ebon vanguard, it is kinda inbalanced-_-
Curse You
Worst part is: Dwarven armour isn't even a set, but it's easiest to get. 
wetsparks
The ebon vanguard does have repeatable quests, one that comes to mind at the moment is the one where you find all the dead bodies of the missing vanguard. go touch the helmet and you get the quest and the cut scene.
Uber Mass
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The ebon vanguard does have repeatable quests, one that comes to mind at the moment is the one where you find all the dead bodies of the missing vanguard. go touch the helmet and you get the quest and the cut scene.
thats the first "mission" you have them in other parts too -_-
RSGashapon
Experience is so much more important than reputation, which is why we have XX,000 experience and X00 reputation point quest rewards, right?
wolfwing
Speaking of dungeons, they should either make the dwarf reputation bonus better, or make the reputation based on the dungeon. Why the heck do you get dwarf bonus in every dungeon if it's only useful in like 1 or 2? *by that I mean the bonus of X health every time you hit a destroyer* If I'm in Asura lands I should GET asura reputation along with Dwarf and be able to use Asura or dwarf reputation bonus.
trielementz
One reason why dungeons give only dwarven reputation points only is probably because of lore.
Although I earned in excess of 10k norn rep points for clearing Varajar Fells 1.75 times (gave the undead circle a miss once), each run took about 50 minutes. Maybe clearing the ebon vanguard areas are faster because of the siege devourers? Go with a few humans and get everyone into a devourer and hunt everything into extinction.
maybe we'll get a quadruple bounty weekend. heh.
Although I earned in excess of 10k norn rep points for clearing Varajar Fells 1.75 times (gave the undead circle a miss once), each run took about 50 minutes. Maybe clearing the ebon vanguard areas are faster because of the siege devourers? Go with a few humans and get everyone into a devourer and hunt everything into extinction.
maybe we'll get a quadruple bounty weekend. heh.
Melkorium
Dwarven reputation is given for dungeons because there is no above-ground Dwarven territory I guess.
Ferret
I have to agree that some Rep areas seem to have preference.
Really, every race/rep should have a repeatable mission/challenge that doesnt cost gold and earns rep.
As for the Siege Devourer, i hated it the time i got one...i prefer my ranger skills.
Really, every race/rep should have a repeatable mission/challenge that doesnt cost gold and earns rep.
As for the Siege Devourer, i hated it the time i got one...i prefer my ranger skills.
FelixCarter
I was about to suggest a system where we could trade Skill Points for Reputation... But I decided that was lame compared to just asking for quests to give us more Rep. Either that or dungeons gives us the same Rep Points in the other Rep titles... Maybe? I have no clue.
knifff
I'm sure titles will be easy as pie after the release of Hard Mode
Uber Mass
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I'm sure titles will be easy as pie after the release of Hard Mode
yeah probably and i hope they will release it soon ^^
SpriteSODA
hmmm, first of all you get reputation from mini games such as Norn Tournament and Polymock, but i do see the problem with the ebon.
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by Curse You
Worst part is: Dwarven armour isn't even a set, but it's easiest to get.
"Damn, it feels good to be a warrior."
SetsunaSamurai
Good thing the Ebon armor is trash, amirite?
quickmonty
Decided to get the Ebon armor for my Rit, after finding out the Dwarf armor is not counted as a 'set' in the HoM. I'm having the same frustration as many in that getting Ebon rep points seems like it's going to take forever clearing the same three areas over and over. *sigh*
Ferret
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Originally Posted by FelixCarter
I was about to suggest a system where we could trade Skill Points for Reputation... But I decided that was lame compared to just asking for quests to give us more Rep. Either that or dungeons gives us the same Rep Points in the other Rep titles... Maybe? I have no clue.
Oddly, i have had the same thought and suggested it in another thread.
My thought was for one skill point to be exchangable for 100 to 500 rep points with a 'collector' somewhere towards the end of the story campaign (maybe the central transfer place). You get to pick which rep you want to buy of course.
Would suit me, as i have hundreds of skill points and very little to do with them.
Peace,
Ferret
My thought was for one skill point to be exchangable for 100 to 500 rep points with a 'collector' somewhere towards the end of the story campaign (maybe the central transfer place). You get to pick which rep you want to buy of course.
Would suit me, as i have hundreds of skill points and very little to do with them.
Peace,
Ferret
Bale_Shadowscar
I think you should be able to choose which blessing to get in a Dungeon, instead of always getting the dwarf blessing from the beacon. Have an NPC for each faction which gives the blessing, but only allow one blessing active at a time.
RTSFirebat
Well that can start by making Rank upgrades more easier to get or common, nothing more annoying then clearing a whole zone and getting rank 2 at the end of it all :P
Chrono Re delle Ere
Doesn't completing vanguard area dungeons give 1k rep points in vanguard or so? This happens for norn, so why it shouldn't for vanguard. Seems odd to me.
zwei2stein
I like that skillpoint-for-X reputation idea. 100 points per SP would do just fine.
Current SP uses are so ... useless (easy mode items? no, thanks. super salvage kit? cool, but used once in blue moon. Star of Transference? say hi to tomes.)
Current SP uses are so ... useless (easy mode items? no, thanks. super salvage kit? cool, but used once in blue moon. Star of Transference? say hi to tomes.)
dralith
I understand that the creatures you kill in the dungeons only contribute to the Dwarven title, but at least according to the official wiki (the one run by GW) the rewards for completing the dungeons are actually distributed pretty evenly between all four title tracks. Hope this helps someone.
vergerefosh
Swap reputation and xp rewards :P
Or greatly increase the reputation rewards. If it's for level 20's, what use is xp? Nothing really, skill points, about it. But the reputation points are, and they help lessen the grind etc to get the titles, and 250 isn't that much, when you'd see greater amounts for sunspear quests, and those were storyline essential
Or greatly increase the reputation rewards. If it's for level 20's, what use is xp? Nothing really, skill points, about it. But the reputation points are, and they help lessen the grind etc to get the titles, and 250 isn't that much, when you'd see greater amounts for sunspear quests, and those were storyline essential
Fox Reeveheart
Norn fighting tournament or polymock? LOL!
i completed the polymock quest line.... future rewards are NOT WORTH IT.
I mean 50 asuran points for beating hoff? NOT WORTH IT. You can kill 50 enemies faster in magus stones. You would have to fight him 20 times for 1000 points.
My computer is SLLLLLOOOOOOOW, so just loading arena/rata sum can take forever.
If beating hoff was worth 100 points, I would constantly beat his butt and would be much more worth it. But I reached rank 5 so i don't care.
Ebon has not exactly a lot for getting points i want rank 5 but i am just... i'm just exhausted. All of the main quests didnt even get you to rank 3! And ebon only has I think 3 dungeons tied to them.
So yeah, I wont see the monument armor I want for a long time
i completed the polymock quest line.... future rewards are NOT WORTH IT.
I mean 50 asuran points for beating hoff? NOT WORTH IT. You can kill 50 enemies faster in magus stones. You would have to fight him 20 times for 1000 points.
My computer is SLLLLLOOOOOOOW, so just loading arena/rata sum can take forever.
If beating hoff was worth 100 points, I would constantly beat his butt and would be much more worth it. But I reached rank 5 so i don't care.
Ebon has not exactly a lot for getting points
So yeah, I wont see the monument armor I want for a long time
MithranArkanere
At least in asura-related dungeons, like Oola's lab, you should get asuran points.
It's a bit odd. specially in the Charr homelands. Not a single dwarf miles around, yet you get dwarven points.
It's a bit odd. specially in the Charr homelands. Not a single dwarf miles around, yet you get dwarven points.
samifly
I agree - Ebon vangard got the short end, and its the hardest or boringest title to go for. Yah theres repeatable quests, but they dont seem to give out as many points as the asuran ones.
Horseman Of War
Yeah, the Vanguard area is too small... at least (i think) we get significant vanguard rep from some of the dungeons there.
Neo Nugget
Yeah well so far without any farming for points i have gotten
10k from asura storyline
6k from norn
(yet to complete vanguard, doing that right now though.)
and 5k dwarven.
Bugs me because i want norn armor and not asura
And it sucks even more that this weekend isn't a double rep weekend Its a tournament reward weekend.
10k from asura storyline
6k from norn
(yet to complete vanguard, doing that right now though.)
and 5k dwarven.
Bugs me because i want norn armor and not asura
And it sucks even more that this weekend isn't a double rep weekend
BustroQuick
Completing Veiled Threat gives you 3k Vanguard points - not sure if it's repeatable or not.
Jaen
Upon repeat, veiled threat gives something like 100 or 300 Vanguard faction, not 3k.
KamikazeChicken
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That or the same number of rep points for repeating a dungeon.
Yes please. The chest reward isn't great enough most the time to make dungeon visits worthwhile, but I'd go more often for the crappy, merchable gold and 3000ish rep.
thetechx
yea, ive been trying to get my male ele the monument armor and is taking forever. another thing that saddened me about the vangaurd stroyline was that going back to the charr was the main selling point for me to buy eton. so naturally i did that one last, hoping it would boost the excitment of it even more for me, only to find out its the shortest, smallest area and seems to be the one anet put the least amount of effort into.
kazjun
Yeah, I'd go for not reducing the rep points for repeating. You still got to do the dungeon anyway, so why not get points for it. Either way, you're still grinding, it's just more interesting than vanquishing areas over and over.
Otherwise, most dungeons aren't really worth much. Unless you're going for greens, getting a gem and some gold merch food ain't exactly great. Well, except for slavers for the deldrimor remnants. Jora in deldrimor with fellblade and shadow shield is very nice
Otherwise, most dungeons aren't really worth much. Unless you're going for greens, getting a gem and some gold merch food ain't exactly great. Well, except for slavers for the deldrimor remnants. Jora in deldrimor with fellblade and shadow shield is very nice
Engel the Fallen
I would just rather see hard mode added. Be easier to title up. Alot of suggestions would have people hit max ranks in days. One play through without grinding got me rank 4 in all titles sans Ebon. But that was the smallest area.
Yelli24
I've not seen anyone suggest this, and I'm not sure why. Please tell me if there's a good reason...
Why don't they make scrolls to increase rep rewards. They are all based on XP at the moment, which is ridiculously easy to get and almost completely useless once at level 20. Surely scrolls for rep in EOTN would be a sensible way to go?
Why don't they make scrolls to increase rep rewards. They are all based on XP at the moment, which is ridiculously easy to get and almost completely useless once at level 20. Surely scrolls for rep in EOTN would be a sensible way to go?
HolyHawk
Compared to the asura rank, I got rank 5 vanguard faster, a lot faster. While doing Anton's quests, I always cleared the char encampment and the big plains. I think the dungeon's in char homelands give a lot of experience, but I didn't pay attention. If people want rank faster, I agree with the scroll idea, seems balanced.