Inplement PvP weapons to be obtained with Balthazar faction, instead of reward points... only the weapons, keep the armors as it is.
That would be an incentive to play all forms of pvp and also be an incentive to get pvp titles because fancy and exotic weapons would require higher amount of balthazar faction. For exemple, Basic weapons cost 10k faction, fancy 30k, exotic 60k and zodiac/tormented a few more.
I believe that would also reduce the number of leavers in Random Arenas, because the reason they do is cuz they only want gladiator's points and don't care about balthazar faction.
Also, since you can get pve weapons to pvp characters and customize them, it's not really a big deal...
just a suggestion... sry if it has been already sugested...
Suggestion: Getting PvP weapons with Balthazar Faction
Cloud5646
R!ghteous Ind!gnation
I dont want to see this happen.... tormented weapons and fow armor are for PvE... we dont get to change around our armor like in PvP etc.
Snow Bunny
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Go get better at pvp and do AT's.
If it's just balth then you can farm 12k a day easy with the Zaishen and Zaishen elite.
No thanks, sorry.
Go get better at pvp and do AT's.
If it's just balth then you can farm 12k a day easy with the Zaishen and Zaishen elite.
No thanks, sorry.
Drinky
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/notsigned.
Go get better at pvp and do AT's. If it's just balth then you can farm 12k a day easy with the Zaishen and Zaishen elite. No thanks, sorry. |
qwe4rty
I've thought of something similar as well, but also require the character to have all the skills of that class unlocked.
and at R!ghteous Ind!gnation, the line between PvE and PvP skins is becoming blurred. I could respond by saying while we get to switch armors with greater ease, you get access to more places by leveling up your PvE character. I can't take my PvP character into DoA.
The skins are just a reward for time invested...whether it be PvE or PvP.
and at R!ghteous Ind!gnation, the line between PvE and PvP skins is becoming blurred. I could respond by saying while we get to switch armors with greater ease, you get access to more places by leveling up your PvE character. I can't take my PvP character into DoA.
The skins are just a reward for time invested...whether it be PvE or PvP.
Snow Bunny
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If i remember correctly you can only get 2 or 3k max from those a day, and if you read the thread he suggested 60k for fancy skins, which is for example r13 hero is you dont have anyother pvp titles.
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REGARDLESS. The system is in place for this.
This is thread #1000 asking for this.
Or just grow a pair, customize your weapons, make sure you have GOOD multiple sets of armor, and throw your PvE character into PvP.
Cloud5646
Snow Bunny dude your thoughts about me makes no sense...
if I sucked in pvp I wouldn't say 60k for fancy weapons and even more for zodiac/tormented weapons, cuz getting PvP titles to be able to get 60k Max Balthazar faction is not for anyone...
Actually i'm close to top 100 in hero battles and I get around 20 reward points on each HB ats, which means I can unlock 2 basic weapons in 1h 45min, but getting 20k balth faction takes a LOT more time.
if I sucked in pvp I wouldn't say 60k for fancy weapons and even more for zodiac/tormented weapons, cuz getting PvP titles to be able to get 60k Max Balthazar faction is not for anyone...
Actually i'm close to top 100 in hero battles and I get around 20 reward points on each HB ats, which means I can unlock 2 basic weapons in 1h 45min, but getting 20k balth faction takes a LOT more time.
HawkofStorms
Look, nobody cares if you are a noob or a great PvP player.
It has no impact on the quality of your suggestion, which I think most people will disagree with. After all, armor you can't get on a PvP character without reward points. But you CAN give perfect PvE weapons to PvP characters and customize them.
/notsigned
It has no impact on the quality of your suggestion, which I think most people will disagree with. After all, armor you can't get on a PvP character without reward points. But you CAN give perfect PvE weapons to PvP characters and customize them.
/notsigned
Cloud5646
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After all, armor you can't get on a PvP character without reward points. But you CAN give perfect PvE weapons to PvP characters and customize them.
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I know my experience on pvp doesn't matter, just had to say that cuz that other guy said I was just suggesting this cuz I couldnt get reward points...
The reason why I think it should be changed is that balthazar faction would be fun to spend again for players with most/everything unlocked and reward points would still be fun to obtain and spend on armors. Is that clear now? What's so terrible about this??
Servant of Kali
Complete UAX for PvP, including weapons skins and armors, including FoW.
I want to see PvErs cry and cry badly. Cmon, cry me a river.
I want to see PvErs cry and cry badly. Cmon, cry me a river.
wheel-of-doom
I have a hard time understanding why people shoot these ideas down every time they're suggested. I really honestly dont see any harm in giving some variation in weapon skin choices in PvP instead of no variation at all. I don't care if I don't have pretty equipment, I just dont want it to look like crap(the warrior equipment is horrendous)
Hell, they give you different armor choices, why not 4-5 weapon choices?
This wouldnt infringe with the PvE community OR the HB community particularly if they're common skins.
Whats the deal with everyone?
Hell, they give you different armor choices, why not 4-5 weapon choices?
This wouldnt infringe with the PvE community OR the HB community particularly if they're common skins.
Whats the deal with everyone?
Vanquisher
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/notsigned.
Go get better at pvp and do AT's. If it's just balth then you can farm 12k a day easy with the Zaishen and Zaishen elite. No thanks, sorry. |
HawkofStorms
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And your point is??? I do that myself, I don't get PvP weapons for that reason... that's another reason why it should be changed! (wow really... whats your point here...)
I know my experience on pvp doesn't matter, just had to say that cuz that other guy said I was just suggesting this cuz I couldnt get reward points... The reason why I think it should be changed is that balthazar faction would be fun to spend again for players with most/everything unlocked and reward points would still be fun to obtain and spend on armors. Is that clear now? What's so terrible about this?? |
Yichi
The problem is that most casual PvP players like the OP wont have the capacity to be able to buy any of these because they dont have enough PvP titles or capacity to hold 60k balth faction. Not to mention that all the same skins are already easily and readily available....
Nevin
Only if it was the bare basic skins... Nothing 15k or any gold or purple skins.
Vulkanyaz
/notsigned
Good the way it is imo
Good the way it is imo
MithranArkanere
PvP weapons are rewards for tournaments.
I would agree adding all year rewards, but things like those obtained with victory tokens, not PvP weapons.
I would agree adding all year rewards, but things like those obtained with victory tokens, not PvP weapons.
Cloud5646
I will not discuss this with pve'ers anymore. You guys think it would be EASIER to get leet weapons...
Do you know how long would take to get 50 basic weapons then 50 fancy weapons just to unlock exotic? It's 2 million balthazar faction, really think that is easy to get? (50x10k + 50x30k, *sigh* I should have explained that too)
GvG players can get that much faster... GvG ats gives around 60 reward points...
All I wanted was to be able to spend my faction on someting different then tournament tokens... but oh well, guess pve'ers wont let that happen
Do you know how long would take to get 50 basic weapons then 50 fancy weapons just to unlock exotic? It's 2 million balthazar faction, really think that is easy to get? (50x10k + 50x30k, *sigh* I should have explained that too)
GvG players can get that much faster... GvG ats gives around 60 reward points...
All I wanted was to be able to spend my faction on someting different then tournament tokens... but oh well, guess pve'ers wont let that happen
HawkofStorms
Cloud, I agree with you that the system we have right now isn't perfect and is kinda broken. I just don't like your proposed system.
And don't think of us as "simple minded PvErs" please. I actually have plenty of GvG experience.
And don't think of us as "simple minded PvErs" please. I actually have plenty of GvG experience.
Vanquisher
This is something similar to what the reward point system should have been. Purchases of weapons with Balthazar Faction would have been much better than requiring reward points. Having a 65k faction cap and absolutely nothing to spend that on is useless. Reward Points is an annoying system because;
AT's are not as good a system as people thought they would be.
If you miss the first match you don't get reward points, regardless of if you play the other matches.
AT's are not as good a system as people thought they would be.
If you miss the first match you don't get reward points, regardless of if you play the other matches.
Zahr Dalsk
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You want PvE weapons, come over to PvE and do some real work for them instead of getting them handed to you on a silver platter by doing PvP.
You want PvE weapons, come over to PvE and do some real work for them instead of getting them handed to you on a silver platter by doing PvP.
Servant of Kali
Someone deleted my post so i'll retype it again -
UAX to PvP. Let selfish and greedy PvErs cry.
PvPers dont play games to work. We play games to fun.
If PvErs play games to grind and work, sure, I'm all for more grind to you. But leave PvP out of this. UAX to PvP.
UAX to PvP. Let selfish and greedy PvErs cry.
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If PvErs play games to grind and work, sure, I'm all for more grind to you. But leave PvP out of this. UAX to PvP.
MithranArkanere
He didn't meant 'wok' he meant 'effort'.
You can get any weapon with the item creation panel in PvP.
If you want PvP weapons you MUST get tournament points. They are the reward for tournaments. Want PvP weapons? Enter tournaents or bet in the tournament house. Period.
Wanting PvP weapons just for balthazar faction would be like pretending to get endagame green items for killing some mobs.
You can get any weapon with the item creation panel in PvP.
If you want PvP weapons you MUST get tournament points. They are the reward for tournaments. Want PvP weapons? Enter tournaents or bet in the tournament house. Period.
Wanting PvP weapons just for balthazar faction would be like pretending to get endagame green items for killing some mobs.
Servant of Kali
No, he meant what he said: *work*. Because that's what it is. If he didn't want people to work for it, he would've agreed with getting skins while having fun. You know, the way games were before no-lifers discovered them and started using them as a replacement for life. Ever played Commodore=64 for instance?
Vanquisher
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He didn't meant 'wok' he meant 'effort'.
You can get any weapon with the item creation panel in PvP. If you want PvP weapons you MUST get tournament points. They are the reward for tournaments. Want PvP weapons? Enter tournaents or bet in the tournament house. Period. Wanting PvP weapons just for balthazar faction would be like pretending to get endagame green items for killing some mobs. |
I would argue that those take far longer than it takes to grind out on Duncan to get a good drop from his chest, to complete DoA several hundred times, or to finish all three campaigns, plus the eye of the north expansion, with 10 different characters.
Giving really high-end skins such as Crystallines for a cap of 75k is sufficient in that people must have played a lot for such a reward, even though the reward is purely cosmetic. So no, it's not a matter of grinding out on endgame mobs at all.
And one must also remember that PvP is more difficult than PvE by a long, long way, by the very nature of it.