LADY DEEDRA = OLIVIA. I am VERY close friends with her. Sure, she was selling for a friend, but she did not do any high end minipet trades.
and fyi..undead = foreign who speaks very good english for not being born here.
and finally ;
I WAS THERE FOR THE DEALS! they did not dupe, and just because someone has fow armor and a panda IN NO WAY means they are not a legit player.
Are dupers still among us?
o m g pizowned
The Herbalizer
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Kinda off-topic but is Olivia's account still active? Prior to the revelation of duping, I saw Olivia selling around 60 Armbraces in high-end which i presume were a trade for one of here expensive pets. I do not think she duped and I don't want anybody to think that but I suspect the armbraces came from a duper somehwere along the line.
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the only basis of the accussations are is they rich.
if people dont know how to make thousands of ecto that there problem. dont call ebayer or duper as its offensive.
neither of people in question did either and they dont need to explain themselves.
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LADY DEEDRA = OLIVIA. I am VERY close friends with her. Sure, she was selling for a friend, but she did not do any high end minipet trades.
and fyi..undead = foreign who speaks very good english for not being born here. and finally ; I WAS THERE FOR THE DEALS! they did not dupe, and just because someone has fow armor and a panda IN NO WAY means they are not a legit player. |
undeadgun
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Their shortminded responses are the only thing that lifts some suspision, but true this thread turned into something it wasnt meant to like many before this one. Anyway by just saying they didnt do it you wont make a difference, please put in some reasoning of why you think their innocent or so. Because it seems like a person cant even question things around him anymore, its clear that the person didnt mean to start a flame war nor an accusation. He asked a perfectly normal question yet he gets insulted and threathened for what wondering about something.
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..L..
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Originally Posted by undeadgun
he deserved an insult by making this thread without any evidence.
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KiRi
err I'm pretty sure the main reason for suspicion is the response the OP got in game...
Things like "OMFG STFU" and so on are pretty common remarks from someone who is new to the community/game and most often seen from ebayers...because think about it, someone who has spent THAT much time to amass all those items the legit way should at least know some way to communicate...and not sound you know...brain dead.
Things like "OMFG STFU" and so on are pretty common remarks from someone who is new to the community/game and most often seen from ebayers...because think about it, someone who has spent THAT much time to amass all those items the legit way should at least know some way to communicate...and not sound you know...brain dead.
The Herbalizer
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err I'm pretty sure the main reason for suspicion is the response the OP got in game...
Things like "OMFG STFU" and so on are pretty common remarks from someone who is new to the community/game and most often seen from ebayers...because think about it, someone who has spent THAT much time to amass all those items the legit way should at least know some way to communicate...and not sound you know...brain dead. |
..L..
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Originally Posted by KiRi
err I'm pretty sure the main reason for suspicion is the response the OP got in game...
Things like "OMFG STFU" and so on are pretty common remarks from someone who is new to the community/game and most often seen from ebayers...because think about it, someone who has spent THAT much time to amass all those items the legit way should at least know some way to communicate...and not sound you know...brain dead. |
KiRi
yeah well responding with "STFU" is no better why not ignore instead of lowering yourself to that and just raising suspicion like i said.
undeadgun
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Loyal of you to defend your friends in such a fierce manner, though your not to decide who deserves what, he didnt use any names if noone claimed to be them noone and hear me NOONE would have recognised them or made a big deal about it. As easy as it is the only evidence he could get would be a screenshot of the person in question claiming to be Selling 200 armbraces wich could have been a lie to show off, simply put he cant prove anything unless the person in question comes forward and tells him Hey i duped 200 armbraces and puts them in a trade with him. If you didnt react so viciously towards him no suspision would have been held you closed the trap upon yourselves.
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..L..
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Maybe because its annoying to spend all the time answering dumb messages like, "how much dat cost?" "u sell 4 3k?" "u duped dat"
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The Herbalizer
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yeah well responding with "STFU" is no better why not ignore instead of lowering yourself to that and just raising suspicion like i said.
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If you think someone buys gold doesnt mean you post a pic of them on a forum when reporting to anet would be better option.
..L..
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of course i react so viciously towards to him, because i know the truth, i know my friends, do u L? no u dont, do u OP? of course not. peace.....
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undeadgun
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Then why didnt the person in question say that hes sick of people doing so, if someone would feel like that they would have definetly expressed it in some spiting manner in none of the posts thats shown. the FP never claimed to personally throw You dupe in the face of those sellers.
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undeadgun
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Then reveal the truth, I never said I know your friends nor do I want to. I do know things about human reaction that you obviously dont. But amaze me tell the truth about what happened, tell your side of the story instead of claiming things out of thin air noones gonna believe you if you say it is because I say it is.
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Pupu
sounds like someone is jealous imo..
KiRi
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If you are suspicious you report.
If you think someone buys gold doesnt mean you post a pic of them on a forum when reporting to anet would be better option. |
People simply jumped in and started defending a faceless player... and the OP also mentioned about reporting being done already. This was simply in regards to that.
6am3 Fana71c
I saw one of those 2 persons in DoA international D1, selling 200 Armbraces day before Max Gladius made that famous thread on this forum. So if that person wasn't banned, what is the reason? If he was banned, then how did he came into posesion of such a valuable minipet and title that requires so much money, in such a short time, since he started from the scratch?
No, I don't have a screenshot of chat log from that day, but nevertheless. You can say I am trolling, or you can believe me. Your choice. But, I am not attacking anyone here. And I would never attack anyone simply because they are rich. But all I see on this thread are flames, insults, and comments like: they aren't duping, so stfu, mmkay?
* sigh *
And, people, re-read title of the thread. I used those 2 persons just as an example. I am not going into any witch hunt.
Wow, you got me. Everything I say is pointless since you answered all questions with your superb logic.
No, I don't have a screenshot of chat log from that day, but nevertheless. You can say I am trolling, or you can believe me. Your choice. But, I am not attacking anyone here. And I would never attack anyone simply because they are rich. But all I see on this thread are flames, insults, and comments like: they aren't duping, so stfu, mmkay?
* sigh *
And, people, re-read title of the thread. I used those 2 persons just as an example. I am not going into any witch hunt.
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sounds like someone is jealous imo..
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VanDamselx
Holy hell.. this mess needs to get closed.
Obviously the people in the pics would want to defend their honor. I wouldn't say that Scooby saying what she/he has makes him/her guilty. I'd be a nervous wreck if I was in that S/S and people were saying I most likely duped my stuff.
People this has been dead for a month now. Report it and let's stop beating a dead horse.
Obviously the people in the pics would want to defend their honor. I wouldn't say that Scooby saying what she/he has makes him/her guilty. I'd be a nervous wreck if I was in that S/S and people were saying I most likely duped my stuff.
People this has been dead for a month now. Report it and let's stop beating a dead horse.
..L..
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plz read post #30
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The Herbalizer
err people leave scoob alone
none of you know what happened you are only guessing.
anet banned him like twice and unbanned him. they unbanned him as he was innocent so please no more arguing this. he didnt know buyer was a duper. noone knew. it was only found out when everyone else found out on guru. thats when we knew the guy was a duper.
he is not in the wrong.
im reporting so this can get closed.
none of you know what happened you are only guessing.
anet banned him like twice and unbanned him. they unbanned him as he was innocent so please no more arguing this. he didnt know buyer was a duper. noone knew. it was only found out when everyone else found out on guru. thats when we knew the guy was a duper.
he is not in the wrong.
im reporting so this can get closed.
undeadgun
do i need an valid argument when i already know he is wrong?
..L..
Yes you do if you wish to bring a proper defence.
undeadgun
u still dont get it do u? they are playing the game instead of getting banned, enough evidence for u sir????
KiRi
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u still dont get it do u? they are playing the game instead of getting banned, enough evidence for u sir????
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are you saying all those ebayers/bots on GW right now that aren't banned aren't cheating?
So you're innocent until caught.
..L..
That made no sense at all you might aswell said nothing.
6am3 Fana71c
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im reporting so this can get closed.
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2) I don't see why this thread needs to be closed. I am not trying to get those people banned. I simply asked a question: Are dupers still among us? People in original post are just example. Nothing personal.
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1) I don't want to send any reports, and I would appreciate if you would do the same. If I wanted to report them, I would do so allready.
2) I don't see why this thread needs to be closed. I am not trying to get those people banned. I simply asked a question: Are dupers still among us? People in original post are just example. Nothing personal. |
undeadgun
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That hardly counts...
are you saying all those ebayers/bots on GW right now that aren't banned aren't cheating? So you're innocent until caught. |
KiRi
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oh my bad, so lets please start a /fail anet thread?
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The Herbalizer
Okay.
So the OP asks if there are still dupers based on his experience.
It has been proven that the people involved with the OP are innocent. Proved by Anet too by the way.
So the discussion moves on to whether dupers are still out there.
As there is no proof whatsoever I think the topic is over really.
This thread is not going anywhere.
Unless I am totally missing something.
So the OP asks if there are still dupers based on his experience.
It has been proven that the people involved with the OP are innocent. Proved by Anet too by the way.
So the discussion moves on to whether dupers are still out there.
As there is no proof whatsoever I think the topic is over really.
This thread is not going anywhere.
Unless I am totally missing something.
Seraphic Divinity
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1) I don't want to send any reports, and I would appreciate if you would do the same. If I wanted to report them, I would do so allready.
2) I don't see why this thread needs to be closed. I am not trying to get those people banned. I simply asked a question: Are dupers still among us? People in original post are just example. Nothing personal. |
I added all suspects that were known dupers to my friends list, including about 10+ people who offered 1000+ectos for my lightning, and none have been banned. They -all- disappeared for like a week, and they're all back.
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Okay.
So the OP asks if there are still dupers based on his experience. It has been proven that the people involved with the OP are innocent. Proved by Anet too by the way. So the discussion moves on to whether dupers are still out there. As there is no proof whatsoever I think the topic is over really. Unless I am totally missing something. |
KiRi
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Okay.
So the OP asks if there are still dupers based on his experience. It has been proven that the people involved with the OP are innocent. Proved by Anet too by the way. So the discussion moves on to whether dupers are still out there. As there is no proof whatsoever I think the topic is over really. This thread is not going anywhere. Unless I am totally missing something. |
Theres no proof dupers aren't out there, hence the thread to post info about it.
The Herbalizer
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You just missed the little part were you and anet proved they were innocent thats all.
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Surely after all those bans Anet could decide whether or not they are innocent.
We were all talking about the trade in question before all this duping stuff became known and noone suspected duping, noone.
People are asking for proof. Well where is your proof? There is none. Innocent until proven guilty.
I could throw out the accusation that XXX member dupes. It would be down to me to prove it. Not down to the accussed to prove otherwise.
Ive most probably got screens of all the talk regarding the trade like 2 weeks before duping became known and noone knew about it.
Chaos Theory Pvp
The OP uploads players characters with a panda.., why didn't you just put the names in the freakin header DOH... Jeez is this still open... should be wiped Imho.
Seraphic Divinity
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Maybe Anet banning them then unbanning them. Then banning them then unbanning them.
Surely after all those bans Anet could decide whether or not they are innocent. We were all talking about the trade in question before all this duping stuff became known and noone suspected duping, noone. People are asking for proof. Well where is your proof? There is none. Innocent until proven guilty. |
plus your whole innocent until proven guilty would only be slightly valid if they play on U.S. servers :O seeing as how most dupers can hardly speak english... :O
The Herbalizer
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rofl, I love how you're using criminal U.S. law as a source of their innocence. I'm not accusing anyone, but there's something called the ToS which is NOT 'innocent until provent guilty' but rather something like... 'guilty if we think you are (~Anet)'
plus your whole innocent until proven guilty would only be slightly valid if they play on U.S. servers :O seeing as how most dupers can hardly speak english... :O |
There can really be no more discussion regarding them when Anet have decided that they are innocent.
Anet can view chat logs, trades etc. Anet would tell if they broke EULA and as they have been unbanned they obviously have not.
..L..
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Maybe Anet banning them then unbanning them. Then banning them then unbanning them.
Surely after all those bans Anet could decide whether or not they are innocent. We were all talking about the trade in question before all this duping stuff became known and noone suspected duping, noone. People are asking for proof. Well where is your proof? There is none. Innocent until proven guilty. I could throw out the accusation that XXX member dupes. It would be down to me to prove it. Not down to the accussed to prove otherwise. Ive most probably got screens of all the talk regarding the trade like 2 weeks before duping became known and noone knew about it. |
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Corwin_Andros
I think the funniest part of this whole debacle of a thread, is that the OP showed two screenies, with NO names.. mentioned NO names in his posts at all and, was basically asking a question based on what he witnessed ingame.
Then the fun started, with people falling all over themselves defending these two anonymous characters. They, not the OP, started mentioning names, lambasting the OP for even posing the question in the first place, and generally drawing so much more attention to the thread.
In their rush to defend these people who, basically no one but themselves, even seemed to care about the identities of, the defenders made this thread into the flamefest that it turned into.
Simply Amazing
Then the fun started, with people falling all over themselves defending these two anonymous characters. They, not the OP, started mentioning names, lambasting the OP for even posing the question in the first place, and generally drawing so much more attention to the thread.
In their rush to defend these people who, basically no one but themselves, even seemed to care about the identities of, the defenders made this thread into the flamefest that it turned into.
Simply Amazing
Seraphic Divinity
Ok, the fact remains, we fail to see anyone actually banned for duping, therefore the answer to this thread would be Dupers are STILL among us...
meaning this thread is VALID, unless you can prove they are not among us :O
gg, and stay on topic lest you be reported for trolling in a valid thread.
meaning this thread is VALID, unless you can prove they are not among us :O
gg, and stay on topic lest you be reported for trolling in a valid thread.