Is anyone here still yet to do the Heart Of The Shiverpeaks quest?
I can't find you in the game anymore
Perdix Leonhart
LFP, LFP aint anyone LFP???
Perdix
I started playing Guild Wars with Factions loved it. Every town was full and was so easy to get a party together to go do a mission. But now it seems the GW-World is so big, everyone is somewhere else or doing something different. Making it a real pain to get a party together (there might be plenty of people in that particular town, but they aint there to do the same mission, if you get my meaning).
Is anyone here still yet to do the Heart Of The Shiverpeaks quest?
I can't find you in the game anymore
Perdix Leonhart
Is anyone here still yet to do the Heart Of The Shiverpeaks quest?
I can't find you in the game anymore
Perdix Leonhart
Yanman.be
LFP = looking for porn
Ghost Recon
People are still there but who wants to make teams when heros are better?
cthulhu reborn
I go out with heroes/henchies mostly or with guildies...random player groups are just not doable. Too many dumb players that don't get it and that costs me too much time.
Whenever I go out with random players I am reminded again why it was a bad idea to do so. There are of course exceptions but they are too rare.
Whenever I go out with random players I am reminded again why it was a bad idea to do so. There are of course exceptions but they are too rare.
xArcaeus
Try using 'LFG' instead, but more importantly, while people can still beat missions using heroes and henchmen, chances are very slim you'll find others to play with, especially in the later areas of the game. If you have a guild though, try asking them for help!
Perdix
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Originally Posted by Ghost Recon
People are still there but who wants to make teams when heros are better?
That's true, but then you come across a quest like "Heart of the Shiverpeaks", and you need help carrying the explosive barrels.
BLOODGOAT
Competent team > micromanaging any day.
Keithark
I think it will settle down and be more people later...lots of people are still getting their first character thru the game and once they do they will then either repeat stuff or bring their other 8 characters thru. I pug only when on my monk (because I find it a pain to heal and manage hero's at same time since they follow my target) so on my monk I PUG and of course have little problem finding a group, but ranger is same way, I like to spread conditions and interrupt different targets but when I tab thru my heros run around like idiots following my target so I usually pug or guild on those 2 characters. Give it a little time and I think it will get better
EDIT: on a side note, when pugging be sure to designate a group leader or target caller..and make sure that person knows who to target first, second, etc (for example do not start beating on the enemy tank first instead of the healer, mesmer, elly, or necro) and everyone follow his target. Lots of pugs fail because they each think they have to do things their own way instead of working as a team. Hero's seem easier because they attack who you attack, but if you could get people to follow the leader they would be better because they are smart enough not to cast in malestrom or keep casting on a spell breaking monk, etc.
EDIT: on a side note, when pugging be sure to designate a group leader or target caller..and make sure that person knows who to target first, second, etc (for example do not start beating on the enemy tank first instead of the healer, mesmer, elly, or necro) and everyone follow his target. Lots of pugs fail because they each think they have to do things their own way instead of working as a team. Hero's seem easier because they attack who you attack, but if you could get people to follow the leader they would be better because they are smart enough not to cast in malestrom or keep casting on a spell breaking monk, etc.
Perdix
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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
I go out with heroes/henchies mostly or with guildies...random player groups are just not doable. Too many dumb players that don't get it and that costs me too much time.
Whenever I go out with random players I am reminded again why it was a bad idea to do so. There are of course exceptions but they are too rare. I am the same mate, but there have been times where I really enjoyed being a part of a random human team (although, I must add that is a rare).
As for my guild/alliance, they all seem to be doing their own thing too.
I almost always use henchies except when you get to a mission like the one I'm on now.
Whenever I go out with random players I am reminded again why it was a bad idea to do so. There are of course exceptions but they are too rare. I am the same mate, but there have been times where I really enjoyed being a part of a random human team (although, I must add that is a rare).
As for my guild/alliance, they all seem to be doing their own thing too.
I almost always use henchies except when you get to a mission like the one I'm on now.
mcsumo
Yep heroes pretty much killed the PUG. Generally the only teams you see for normal missions now are guild groups or old friends. Although they were a godsend for me and a friend who pretty much played the game as a 2 man co-op. I mean seriously, Devona, Little Thom, Lina, Mhenlo, Dunham and Aidan in the ROF islands! 
But that was still better than the few experiences of a PUG we tried. Rage quitters, AFKers, idiots and a**eholes put us off that.
Having said all that I will gladly come with you for the heart of the Shiverpeaks, give me a shout in game if you still want to do it. (I hope I can do it again having done it once)
But that was still better than the few experiences of a PUG we tried. Rage quitters, AFKers, idiots and a**eholes put us off that.Having said all that I will gladly come with you for the heart of the Shiverpeaks, give me a shout in game if you still want to do it. (I hope I can do it again having done it once)
SuperDave
At least heroes are predictably stupid, with ppl you just never know. It's more fun playing with real ppl, but more efficient playing with AI
Ghost Recon
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Originally Posted by Perdix
That's true, but then you come across a quest like "Heart of the Shiverpeaks", and you need help carrying the explosive barrels.
I had no trouble with that quest with hero/hench and i was a monk.
Perdix
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Originally Posted by Ghost Recon
I had no trouble with that quest with hero/hench and i was a monk.
To be honest, it probably helps to be a monk on that mission (not that i actually know, but the thought of an extra healer sounds great to me).
What heros and henchies did you take with you?
Any particular strategy?
I've only had one stab at it, but needless to say, I was caught slightly off guard Had no idea what I was running into.
What heros and henchies did you take with you?
Any particular strategy?
I've only had one stab at it, but needless to say, I was caught slightly off guard
Perdix
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Originally Posted by mcsumo
Yep heroes pretty much killed the PUG. Generally the only teams you see for normal missions now are guild groups or old friends. Although they were a godsend for me and a friend who pretty much played the game as a 2 man co-op. I mean seriously, Devona, Little Thom, Lina, Mhenlo, Dunham and Aidan in the ROF islands! But that was still better than the few experiences of a PUG we tried. Rage quitters, AFKers, idiots and a**eholes put us off that.
Having said all that I will gladly come with you for the heart of the Shiverpeaks, give me a shout in game if you still want to do it. (I hope I can do it again having done it once) Thanks mate, the help would be really appreciated.
But that was still better than the few experiences of a PUG we tried. Rage quitters, AFKers, idiots and a**eholes put us off that.Having said all that I will gladly come with you for the heart of the Shiverpeaks, give me a shout in game if you still want to do it. (I hope I can do it again having done it once) Thanks mate, the help would be really appreciated.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by mcsumo
Yep heroes pretty much killed the PUG.
No. People killed PUGS. No wonder people prefer h/h than grouping with mending wammos. People aggro, have sucky builds, don't attack called targets etc.
It's not a surprise that people don't want to risk PUG-ing. Often it's just a waste of time
It's not a surprise that people don't want to risk PUG-ing. Often it's just a waste of time
Bryant Again
Guild Wars is just too big as it is now. Everyone is too spread apart. LFGs takes some time, and people like to rush as fast as they can through the quests, missions, etc. (Not to mention that PUGs have an awful reputation...)
Not only that, but there's so much to do in GW:EN at this point in time and with no clear-cut route to do it all.
Not only that, but there's so much to do in GW:EN at this point in time and with no clear-cut route to do it all.
Dr Strangelove
GWEN is a little more decentralized, without clear "YOU ARE IN A MISSION NOW" outposts. I haven't joined a single PuG in GWEN. However, I group up plenty with guildies, so it all works out.
Join a good guild and all your worries will melt away.
Join a good guild and all your worries will melt away.
OlMurraniKasale
In GWEN, I only opted to find a group of real people in Heart of the Shiverpeaks and A Time for Heroes. I may do the Defense of the Eye with real people, or at least run away so the converging hordes don't trample me to death.
Actually, they're the only two places in GWEN so far here I needed them. I'm a casual player, so tweaking my hero/henchie builds just isn't all that fun for me. I just want to go out, explore, blast stuff, you know?
Actually, they're the only two places in GWEN so far here I needed them. I'm a casual player, so tweaking my hero/henchie builds just isn't all that fun for me. I just want to go out, explore, blast stuff, you know?
plasmasword
People only make groups for things they have trouble doing with Hench/Heroes.
Mr. G
as a random point to beat cynder get him to spawn by the barrel guy, get a monk to use PS on you then talk tot he dwarf and wack Space,F1,Space,F1 etc as fast as you can
easy win
easy win
onerabbit
My heros/hench > you imo .. thats why theres no lfp
BliZZarD
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Originally Posted by Perdix
That's true, but then you come across a quest like "Heart of the Shiverpeaks", and you need help carrying the explosive barrels.
That mission was easier for me with a h/h team than with people.
Diva Signet
Just bring Life Steal - I used Livia as an Orders/Blood Nec, two hero monks, and a lot of physical damage.
malevolence
There are many reason why people doesn't look for people lately
1-When you look for a group, people are starting to call you noob (saying that you cannot make builds for your heroes etc etc)
2-Some people are playing GW:EN for the first time, so they take ages downloading files, and some people doesn't like that
3-Leavers (Leavers will be always there :P )
I prefer always to play with people instead of A.I. , I always believe that human > A.I. , but that is only my opinion.
And about Cynder is really easy , just take monks with PS and cast it to a runner who will take the barrel every time.
1-When you look for a group, people are starting to call you noob (saying that you cannot make builds for your heroes etc etc)
2-Some people are playing GW:EN for the first time, so they take ages downloading files, and some people doesn't like that
3-Leavers (Leavers will be always there :P )
I prefer always to play with people instead of A.I. , I always believe that human > A.I. , but that is only my opinion.
And about Cynder is really easy , just take monks with PS and cast it to a runner who will take the barrel every time.
Arathi
Why mess up with little children who complain or you could mess up with Devona Rushing out and still allowing the Heros be smarter then the actrull people > >
Cricket
While H/H is often more efficient, it does require to pay more attention. Sometimes I love just following other people's calls and not having to keep everything in sight. Say, Tombs is henchable, but it's way more fun with people - even if that means one out of three times we get wiped because someone got their build wrong, or has no idea what they are doing. I get so bored with doing things on my own sometimes! PUGs are perfect for a little dungeon trip or a mission you already know how to do.
I've had a couple of very good PUGs in GWEN, so I consider myself lucky. It does appear to be harder right now to get the groups you want, but I think at some point people will play with groups again because it really is more fun (yes, unfrotunately Heroes have yet to master the art of conversation, even though Pyre's and Vekk's comments make me giggle uncontrollably sometimes)
I've had a couple of very good PUGs in GWEN, so I consider myself lucky. It does appear to be harder right now to get the groups you want, but I think at some point people will play with groups again because it really is more fun (yes, unfrotunately Heroes have yet to master the art of conversation, even though Pyre's and Vekk's comments make me giggle uncontrollably sometimes)
Esan
Is it that time of the month to dig this dead horse up for a fresh beating again?
Zahr Dalsk
In my opinion the fact that Eye of the North is somewhat more easy than the other campaigns, it's not surprising people prefer to just breeze through it with H/H.
Arkantos
heroes/henchies are good. PUGs are bad. End of story, really.
KamikazeChicken
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Originally Posted by Perdix
That's true, but then you come across a quest like "Heart of the Shiverpeaks", and you need help carrying the explosive barrels.
No, you don't. That's why people use heroes and hench.
SlipknotOFA
I go out with heroes/henchies mostly or with guildies...random player groups are just not doable. Too many dumb players that don't get it and that costs me too much time.
Whenever I go out with random players I am reminded again why it was a bad idea to do so. There are of course exceptions but they are too rare.
Amen yup she nailed it.
Whenever I go out with random players I am reminded again why it was a bad idea to do so. There are of course exceptions but they are too rare.
Amen yup she nailed it.
kazjun
Well, getting a party can be tough in some places, but I see LFG for heart of the shiverpeaks all the time at the eye. Maybe you're just on at a bad time.
On a side note, if there are 6 people all going LFG, why don't they just all band together? Guess they're just to 1337 to party with those other obvious noobs or something?
On a side note, if there are 6 people all going LFG, why don't they just all band together? Guess they're just to 1337 to party with those other obvious noobs or something?
bungusmaximus
Even the hench have good bars now, so that kinda rounds it down. Doing dungeons with a guildie + 7 heroes, that's just bl**dy murder.
Al Andaluz
The problem rests with the creation of heroes; if you're smart enough to prepare heroes for a certain area/enemy type, then there's almost no reason to try and find players wanting to clear an area/quest/mission/etc. So long as you can focus your character type against the major form of enemy in an area, and so long as you can focus your heroes to battle said enemy, then pick-up players are unnecessary. I've easily run both my nec and ele through gw:en w/out other real players (nec was first, took about 5 hours, ele only took about 3). Focus on what you'll be fighting in each area, plan around those foes, and you're golden.
Perdix
Tell that to someone who has the money and time to prepare their hero's.
I don't have all year round to play this game like most people, and usually have better things to do anyway. But I still enjoy exploring and generally having a bit of laugh.
Anywhoo, I did the mission with a PUG (was a very unusual team), no one left, they made a lot of mistakes, but they stayed together all through to the end. With all the extra people carrying the barrels, the mission was a piece of piss (despite the fact most of them had mas DP)
HUMANS > H/H
Not saying that's always the case, afterall, I probably used PUGs far less than a lot of you guys.
I don't have all year round to play this game like most people, and usually have better things to do anyway. But I still enjoy exploring and generally having a bit of laugh.
Anywhoo, I did the mission with a PUG (was a very unusual team), no one left, they made a lot of mistakes, but they stayed together all through to the end. With all the extra people carrying the barrels, the mission was a piece of piss (despite the fact most of them had mas DP)
HUMANS > H/H
Not saying that's always the case, afterall, I probably used PUGs far less than a lot of you guys.
BlackSephir
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Some people on the other hand, will.
fujin
If you're looking for people for Dungeon runs, I've made a thread for that.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10196825
But then of course, I've only got one reply :P
From my point of view, it's like this:
Smart people>Hero/Hench
Hero/Hench>Idiots and Mending whammos that rush in.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10196825
But then of course, I've only got one reply :P
From my point of view, it's like this:
Smart people>Hero/Hench
Hero/Hench>Idiots and Mending whammos that rush in.
bungusmaximus
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Originally Posted by fujin
If you're looking for people for Dungeon runs, I've made a thread for that.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10196825
But then of course, I've only got one reply :P
From my point of view, it's like this:
Smart people>Hero/Hench
Hero/Hench>Idiots and Mending whammos that rush in. ROFL I tried that when Hard Mode was just released, 2 people PM-ed me
I didn't PUG at all for GWEN, but that had something to do with downloading 400-500 files before the mission started :P
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10196825
But then of course, I've only got one reply :P
From my point of view, it's like this:
Smart people>Hero/Hench
Hero/Hench>Idiots and Mending whammos that rush in. ROFL I tried that when Hard Mode was just released, 2 people PM-ed me
I didn't PUG at all for GWEN, but that had something to do with downloading 400-500 files before the mission started :P
freekedoutfish
I dunno where your looking, but GWEN if packed with LFP or LFG messages! Its the latest edition so everyone is there. There are lots of HOTS parties forming!
You do realise to check the party search too *coughcoughPressP*?
You do realise to check the party search too *coughcoughPressP*?
Abbel Calima
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Originally Posted by Perdix
I started playing Guild Wars with Factions loved it. Every town was full and was so easy to get a party together to go do a mission. But now it seems the GW-World is so big, everyone is somewhere else or doing something different. Making it a real pain to get a party together (there might be plenty of people in that particular town, but they aint there to do the same mission, if you get my meaning).
Is anyone here still yet to do the Heart Of The Shiverpeaks quest?
I can't find you in the game anymore
Perdix Leonhart Im more than happy to team up with you on certain missions, if you still want that is.. You can contact me ingame.
Is anyone here still yet to do the Heart Of The Shiverpeaks quest?
I can't find you in the game anymore
Perdix Leonhart Im more than happy to team up with you on certain missions, if you still want that is.. You can contact me ingame.