A simple Dervish build

Twan4188

Twan4188

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ashford

White Dragon Order [WD]

W/Mo

Hi, I've got a lvl 20 Dervish which has a very silly build. My question is: can anybody give my a nice build that contains Dervish skills from Istan, Kourna and Vabbi, and some others (sec. proffession doesn't matter) also from Istan, Kourna, Vabbi, Lion's Arch, Kaineng Center. Maybe someone can give my some nice skills that work well together with the skill Avatar of Balthazar. I've checked certain sited but most of the builds contain skills that can only be accuired in the Desolation and Realm of Torment. Please help!

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Avatar of Balthazar sucks.
Get a real elite that actually does something.

[skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill]
[skill]eremite's attack[/skill]
[skill]mystic sweep[/skill]
[skill]protector's strike[/skill]
Eternal Aura
[skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

... then whatever else. I like Aura of Holy Might.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Look around the forums for some builds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twan4188
Maybe someone can give my some nice skills that work well together with the skill Avatar of Balthazar.
Nothing works well with this skill, it's crap.

Quote: I've checked certain sited but most of the builds contain skills that can only be accuired in the Desolation and Realm of Torment. Please help! You can either:
Unlock skills account wide with Balthazar Faction (can be gained so so quickly in Zaishen Challenge)
or..
Use tomes

Utaku

Utaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paris, France

We eat pancakes [Yumy]

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This is the easyest build I can think of. The elite can be captured in Sunward marsh.

Scythe Mastery : 12+3
Mysticism: 10+1+1
Earth : 7+1

[skill]mystic sweep[/skill][skill]eremite's attack[/skill][skill]victorious sweep[/skill][skill]reaper's sweep[/skill][skill]vital boon[/skill][skill]mystic regeneration[/skill][skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

Use a zealous scythe of enchanting to spam 4s reload attacks.

Forget about Avatar of Balthazar, it's only use is soloing Fissure of Woe.



Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Unlock skills account wide with Balthazar Faction (can be gained so so quickly in Zaishen Challenge)
or..
Use tomes You still need to unlock a skill before getting it with a tome.

Wraith of Shadows

Wraith of Shadows

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Atlanta, Georgia

The Mentalists[THPK]

A/

ive got some derv builds, i dont know how to post them on here, so give me a PM sometime, tell me who u are tho

IGN: The death Crescent

suner45

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Dragon Fist [DF]

D/E

AoB sucks, your way better off with dwayna or lyssa

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

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Originally Posted by Wraith of Shadows
i dont know how to post them on here Just type the names out in a list, or..

Type [skill ] {skill name} [/skill ] <-- without the spaces to show pictures of each skill, or..

Copy + paste Template Code

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

I use this on my dervish most of the time.

[skill]Ebon Dust Aura[/skill]
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill]
[skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill]
[skill]Aura of Thorns[/skill]
[skill]Wild Blow[/skill]
[skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill]
[skill]Zealous Sweep[/skill]
Any res you want to use can go here I usually use Sunspear Rebirth

The only caveat is that you really need an Ebon weapon. If you can't get one or just really like the one you're using then you can replace Aura of Thorns with [skill]Staggering Force[/skill] Sometimes I run Staggering Force in EoTN because of the weakness. Lay into the melee and spread your blindness around. Mystic Regen and Victorious should keep you nicely healed. Zealous is good if you know how to cluster your enemies. At best you can get a gain of 4 energy per attack. At worst well you get an attack that does extra damage for only 2 energy in the end.

I've also been known to run this occasionally.

[skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill]
[skill]Wearying Strike[/skill]
[skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill]
[skill]Eternal Aura[/skill]
[skill]Heart of Fury[/skill]
[skill]Reap Impurities[/skill]
[skill]Zealous Sweep[/skill]
whatever res you want can go here

With this one you really need a zealous scythe because it is sooo energy intensive. With Avatar of Melandru and Eternal Aura you can maintain your avatar form indefinitely in PvE. Since you're immune to conditions you can spam Wearying Strike and lay deep wound around you like mad. Mystic Regen helps keep you healed along with Reap impurities since most of your enemies will have deep wound condition on them. It also helps when you lose your avatar form since Melandru adds 100 health and if you aren't prepared for it when the avatar form drops it can mess you up big time. Zealous sweep is in there once again because it's a one energy damage+ skill at worst and at best it can net you 7 energy with the zealous scythe.

Mystic Regen might give you pause but here is how you do it. go to the battle islands. Go to the Zaishen challenge. Take some heros and fight the Illusionary Weaponry team. These guys are cream puffs. Build up enough Balthazar faction and go to the priest of balthazar. You can then unlock Mystic Regneration at the priest. when you do return to Kamadan and you can buy it like normal at the Skill Trainer. eternal Aura is a PvE only skill on the Sunspear Title track. Zealous Sweep is an Eye of the north skill.

boarderx

boarderx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[PIG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
Unlock skills account wide with Balthazar Faction (can be gained so so quickly in Zaishen Challenge) and once you unlock a skill from the Priest of Balthazar at your GH or other area, then you can buy that skill and any skill trainer like the guy in Kamadon, but of course this doesnt make elites buyable at the skill trainer, lol

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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[skill]Ebon Dust Aura[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wearying Strike[/skill][skill]Chilling Victory[/skill][skill]Crippling Sweep[/skill][skill]Signet of Malice[/skill][skill]Signet of Pious Light[/skill]

There is my ab and the build I also use with when working with heros. I can actually tank very effectivly with this build, but it's not a great tanking build but it puts out very good dmg while also blinding everything and keeping yourself alive using vital boon and sig of pious light.

cliffchai76

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Seems like I am one of the very few people that uses AoB. Almost everyone else here says it sucks. lol....

I actually find it very useful if you love tanking with H/H like me. 70 base + 40 bonus = 110 armor. If you add stalwart insignia (+10 vs physical) or blessed insiginia (+10 when affected by enchantment), you can even bump it up to 120 armor. At this level, only a war with +20 vs ele dmg armor insignias all over and a max shield can outdo you. Not to mention that it has a 33% speed boost and does holy dmg (double vs undeads). Combine this with eternal aura, meditation and some earth enchantments or any other skills you fancy and you have a super tank with AoE dmg.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

tanking is stupid and lyssa can deal out wat more damage. and if you did want to tank melandru and dwanya are better.

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

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Originally Posted by cliffchai76
Seems like I am one of the very few people that uses AoB. Almost everyone else here says it sucks. lol.... I don't think it sucks as such, but the problem is it only really gives you generic boosts - it's something to use to give you a boost if you put together a good build where the elite doesn't matter, but you can't hang a build off it the way you can with most elites. So while it's better than, say, Dwayna or Lyssa for adding to a random build, a build that is constructed to synergise with the effects of one of the latter will generally outperform a Balthazar build.

DoczHolliday

DoczHolliday

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Legends of the West [LoW]

P/W

Balth is not useless... just against anything besides undead... or when you need to move, it's important not to get too relied on any one elite or build.... i've used every avatar, with the exception of grenth, at some time or another and purposely to get me through dif missions.... Balth got me through the second MoW mission, and easily so

Molly Moll

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
tanking is stupid and lyssa can deal out wat more damage. and if you did want to tank melandru and dwanya are better. Hey, someones gotta do it. Just like someone has to sit in the back and heal us all while we're doing it. . .

Tanking is an art, and I've found it can be done quite well with Av of Mel. . . .though I've only been at the game a few weeks. I practice my builds in easier areas- solo- to get the hang of them and I've found her to be quite successful.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molly Moll
easier areas That pretty much sums up the game.. so what do you need a tank for??

Molly Moll

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-the-noob
That pretty much sums up the game.. so what do you need a tank for?? If the game is so easy, then why bother playing at all? A tank is simply a preferential way of playing, I think and can't really be 'right' or 'wrong'. No, you don't 'need' one, but then do you really need any class at all, by the same standard?

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molly Moll
I've only been at the game a few weeks Not to discriminate, but get some experience and know what your talking about before you try to argue with me.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molly Moll
If the game is so easy, then why bother playing at all? Fun?

123456

Molly Moll

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

D/

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Originally Posted by Coloneh
Not to discriminate, but get some experience and know what your talking about before you try to argue with me. First, let me say that outside of this forum I'm sure you are an intelligent, well-liked, and friendly person- unfortunately that side of you isn't shining through here.

Secondly I wasn't arguing with you. I was stating an opinion, which if you'd bother to read, was similar to yours: eg Mel is best for tanking.

I would hope that anyone, new or not, would be welcome in this public forum without fear of being attacked by those who think they now better. I am sure you are very experienced at the game and this is why I've chosen to participate in this forum- to learn from you, not to be treated disrespectfully by you. I'm sure your tactic works well at the playground at school, but this is the big wide world where people treat each other with a bit of respect.

Lastly, its not discrimination unless you are treating me differentially on the basis of my sex, race, or religion. It just being rude.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Avatar of Balthazar sucks.
Get a real elite that actually does something.

[skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill]
[skill]eremite's attack[/skill]
[skill]mystic sweep[/skill]
[skill]protector's strike[/skill]
Eternal Aura
[skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

... then whatever else. I like Aura of Holy Might. I've been playing a similar build to that, and has been the best Dervish build I think I've ever played. I used Aura of Holy Might with it also, but used [wiki]Radiant Scythe[/wiki] instead of Protector's Strike. I also took Heart of Fury, because with lyssa's energy boost, it's easily affordable and an IAS is always nice, and means you're more likely to hit a foe using a skill for the damage increase.

I had to switch out Lyssa for Melandru in places like Shards of Orr...so energy was a bit dicey, and required a +5 energy scythe, but was just about doable. I was going off Dervishes before I tried this build.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Molly Moll
First, let me say that outside of this forum I'm sure you are an intelligent, well-liked, and friendly person- unfortunately that side of you isn't shining through here.

Secondly I wasn't arguing with you. I was stating an opinion, which if you'd bother to read, was similar to yours: eg Mel is best for tanking.

I would hope that anyone, new or not, would be welcome in this public forum without fear of being attacked by those who think they now better. I am sure you are very experienced at the game and this is why I've chosen to participate in this forum- to learn from you, not to be treated disrespectfully by you. I'm sure your tactic works well at the playground at school, but this is the big wide world where people treat each other with a bit of respect.

Lastly, its not discrimination unless you are treating me differentially on the basis of my sex, race, or religion. It just being rude. anyone who says "tanking is an art" needs to go learn how to play. I was trying to say it nicely.
also, you are free to join in discussion, but if you dont know what your talking about you end up looking stupid. thats why i keep my nose out of the PvP section, I would sound like you do here.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Just because you can tank with a profession doesn't mean that tanking is the best use for that profession. I can tank with an earth ele and some mesmer skills that doesn't mean that using an ele as a tank is the best use of an ele. Dervishes are not best used as tanks. Dervishes are best used strategically in the front line. With their ability to spread conditions such as blind, deep wound, weakness, bleeding, and cripple they can make a tough battle go a lot easier. As a part of the front line they also dish out respectable damage augmenting the party's overall damage output and ending fights quickly.


Oh and Molly a person can discriminate based upon any criteria that defines a group of people or objects for that matter. So he could discriminate against you based upon your lack of play time as opposed to other people on this forum that have been on the game since day one. So umm yeah he used it correctly. And that folks is pedantic karmic.