Polymock Tips and Questions[Merged]
The Great Al
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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
The real trick to polymock is knowing when to interrupt and block, and when to bust out your own 2 second spells. Strafing is probably nice, but I never bothered.
-The enemy will always start out with glyph of concentration. If you start out with one of your 2 second spells, you'll get it off without being power drained.
-After your first spell, you should usually use block, since the enemy will use one of his big spells first. Pay attention to the recharge on the important spells, you'll want to save your block/interrupts for them.
-Never use glyph of concentration. If you time an important spell to cast right as the enemy casts a spell of its own, it will almost certainly succeed.
-Earth elemental is stupidly powerful once you get one. This is good advice overall. At first I was having an extremely rough time, but once I started focusing on what my opponent was casting, it was a lot easier. Knowing when to interrupt and when to cast your own spells is the most important part of this.
The one thing to be careful of is, although the enemy starts with GoC, you better make sure you get your two second spell off the split second the match starts, or itll get interrupted anyway. I was having trouble with this. So I just normally started off with the 1s spell (not the spammed one, the one with 20s recharge)..then I waited til my spammed spell got interrupted (or at least attempted to be interrupted), and then hit the 2s spell.
-The enemy will always start out with glyph of concentration. If you start out with one of your 2 second spells, you'll get it off without being power drained.
-After your first spell, you should usually use block, since the enemy will use one of his big spells first. Pay attention to the recharge on the important spells, you'll want to save your block/interrupts for them.
-Never use glyph of concentration. If you time an important spell to cast right as the enemy casts a spell of its own, it will almost certainly succeed.
-Earth elemental is stupidly powerful once you get one. This is good advice overall. At first I was having an extremely rough time, but once I started focusing on what my opponent was casting, it was a lot easier. Knowing when to interrupt and when to cast your own spells is the most important part of this.
The one thing to be careful of is, although the enemy starts with GoC, you better make sure you get your two second spell off the split second the match starts, or itll get interrupted anyway. I was having trouble with this. So I just normally started off with the 1s spell (not the spammed one, the one with 20s recharge)..then I waited til my spammed spell got interrupted (or at least attempted to be interrupted), and then hit the 2s spell.
The Great Al
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Originally Posted by biofrog
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* Don't even LOOK at him/his skill use! Just watch your bar, and if a skill recharges, USE it!
It sounds crazy, but once I followed this I actually got through every fight after a couple attempts even with a high > 400ms ping. I highly advise NOT taking this approach.
* Don't even LOOK at him/his skill use! Just watch your bar, and if a skill recharges, USE it!
It sounds crazy, but once I followed this I actually got through every fight after a couple attempts even with a high > 400ms ping. I highly advise NOT taking this approach.
lord_shar
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Originally Posted by The Great Al
I highly advise NOT taking this approach.
I would agree under normal circumstances, but what biofrog is recommending only applies to high-ping scenarios where latency doesn't give you the chance to selectively interrupt. By the time you see the incoming uber-attack, your power-block won't apply until 4+ seconds later (much too late).
The Great Al
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Originally Posted by lord_shar
I would agree under normal circumstances, but what biofrog is recommending only applies to high-ping scenarios where latency doesn't give you the chance to selectively interrupt. By the time you see the incoming uber-attack, your power-block won't apply until 4+ seconds later (much too late).
But he's also just advocating button mashing your 3 main skills. I'm not going to cast my best skill out of the three, until one of the others gets interrupted. I haven't experienced lag while playing polymock, but I'd imagine that the lag isnt bad enough that the AI could interrupt twice in a row.
immortius
The AI can interrupt three times in a row, if one of his main skills is also an interrupt. :/
Mangione
I finally defeated Blarp.
I used this sequence:
Fire Imp, Gargoyle, Kappa.
The meteor of the Fire Imp can interrupt enemy skills, so with some luck and timing, you can interrupt the "big shots".
With all 3 pieces I used the "block" skill every time it recharged.
I used this sequence:
Fire Imp, Gargoyle, Kappa.
The meteor of the Fire Imp can interrupt enemy skills, so with some luck and timing, you can interrupt the "big shots".
With all 3 pieces I used the "block" skill every time it recharged.
kazjun
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Originally Posted by biofrog
I did eventually get him however, and all the others after were much easier; I even managed to use no other pieces from what you win. I think through pure frustration the only answer came to me, so here's my high-ping-guide to Polymock:
* The first couple shouldn't be too difficult as they use fairly simple pieces
* Gargoyle, Fire and Ice are your most damaging to kill Blarp
* GEK - Start using Gargoyle, Earth Ele, Kappa after Blarp
* Interrupts are a bonus, don't expect them
* Don't move; due to ping you will most likely miss the opportunity to dodge
* You win by spamming out damage faster than they do, nothing more
* You WANT to have everything recharging! If you do not then you aren't doing enough to win!
* Start with Block, then Concentration, then your most damaging skill
* Regardless of if they might block or not, if your damage skill becomes available, hit it again
* damage skills > block or interrupt > weak skill, always use that order
* Repeat:
- Once you get under 6 energy, use block/interrupt then spam your weak skill until 0 energy, if you are under 50% hp then use power glyph then weak skill
- Use recharge signet, then block, concentration, damage skill
* Don't even LOOK at him/his skill use! Just watch your bar, and if a skill recharges, USE it!
It sounds crazy, but once I followed this I actually got through every fight after a couple attempts even with a high > 400ms ping. It seemed crazy when I first read it, but I tried over the weekend and it works very well. Don't think of it as pvp, think of it as pve. Overwhelming power kills. Use block or the concentration glyph to cover your big hitter (meteor, lightning orb etc) and then put up block whenever it recharges. Ether sig when you have no energy. Glyph of power when you can. But most important is spam 1 like your life depended on it. Don't even bother kiting, time spent kiting is time not spamming 1. Time waiting for interrupts is time not spamming 1. You can beat blarp with this, not pretty, but you win. After that, it's actually pretty easy. And after you get the earth elemental you practically can't lose. That thing is probably the best non-gold piece in the game. And then you can give Hoff a taste of what it feels like to come up against 3 elementals
Anyway, thanks for the idea Biofrog (and think Moloch Vein suggested something like that as well). Got me pass Blarp who is the toughest polymock opponent for me, and I'm now the proud owner of 4 summons. Only level 14 summons, but have them all the same. Course if you have a more reliable ping, then sure you can try to play with more tactics and timing. But for bad ping, constant and unrelenting damage is the way to go. All you need to do is beat Blarp, the rest is easy. Goodluck all.
The Great Al
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Originally Posted by kazjun
It seemed crazy when I first read it, but I tried over the weekend and it works very well. Don't think of it as pvp, think of it as pve. Overwhelming power kills. Use block or the concentration glyph to cover your big hitter (meteor, lightning orb etc) and then put up block whenever it recharges. Ether sig when you have no energy. Glyph of power when you can. But most important is spam 1 like your life depended on it. Don't even bother kiting, time spent kiting is time not spamming 1. Time waiting for interrupts is time not spamming 1. You can beat blarp with this, not pretty, but you win. After that, it's actually pretty easy. And after you get the earth elemental you practically can't lose. That thing is probably the best non-gold piece in the game. And then you can give Hoff a taste of what it feels like to come up against 3 elementals
Anyway, thanks for the idea Biofrog (and think Moloch Vein suggested something like that as well). Got me pass Blarp who is the toughest polymock opponent for me, and I'm now the proud owner of 4 summons. Only level 14 summons, but have them all the same. Course if you have a more reliable ping, then sure you can try to play with more tactics and timing. But for bad ping, constant and unrelenting damage is the way to go. All you need to do is beat Blarp, the rest is easy. Goodluck all. i'd rather not cast 2 or 3 100 dmg spells, and block my opponents 800 dmg spell.
Anyway, thanks for the idea Biofrog (and think Moloch Vein suggested something like that as well). Got me pass Blarp who is the toughest polymock opponent for me, and I'm now the proud owner of 4 summons. Only level 14 summons, but have them all the same. Course if you have a more reliable ping, then sure you can try to play with more tactics and timing. But for bad ping, constant and unrelenting damage is the way to go. All you need to do is beat Blarp, the rest is easy. Goodluck all. i'd rather not cast 2 or 3 100 dmg spells, and block my opponents 800 dmg spell.
kazjun
As long as you land your 800 damage spell then it doesn't matter if you block or not. If you block, then its a good advantage, if you don't then you're level and will get ahead by spamming damage. Also, constant spam will absorb all his blocks and interrupts so you can land your big hit easier.
Try it and see. I thought it was stupid at first too, but it works. Go tourney or common rules, I've beaten hoff pretty easy with this. For the hoff quest, I beat him and lost only a single piece. You'll be surprised how going against everything you learn from pvp works for this. Works with bad ping and should work with good ping too.
Try it and see. I thought it was stupid at first too, but it works. Go tourney or common rules, I've beaten hoff pretty easy with this. For the hoff quest, I beat him and lost only a single piece. You'll be surprised how going against everything you learn from pvp works for this. Works with bad ping and should work with good ping too.
Solveig Ikram
Don't know if this has been said before, but losing one Polymock piece in battle counts as:.....1 DEATH
So all survivors avoid this at all costs, or at least untill it gets fixed.
If this wasn't made clear somewhere else would someone pls take the effort to put a warning out there in the correct section.
((((((((
edit: Seems you accrue one death from taking damage after your piece has been defeated.
Still testing this to make sure how and when exactly.
Finished Polymock quest line with my main char staring at 1988 deaths, currently at 1991
So all survivors avoid this at all costs, or at least untill it gets fixed.
If this wasn't made clear somewhere else would someone pls take the effort to put a warning out there in the correct section.
edit: Seems you accrue one death from taking damage after your piece has been defeated.
Still testing this to make sure how and when exactly.
Finished Polymock quest line with my main char staring at 1988 deaths, currently at 1991
The Great Al
I have good ping, and I couldn't even beat the first guy until I started looking at their skills, and anticipating future attacks. If that approach works for you, then more power to you.
Killaya
Ugh, I'm still stuck at Plurgg I don't know what to do, I've tried every strategy . I guess I just suck, lol
lakatz
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Originally Posted by Killaya
Ugh, I'm still stuck at Plurgg I don't know what to do, I've tried every strategy . I guess I just suck, lol
Are you using the order recommended on the gw.gameswiki site (skale/fire imp/gargoyle)? Or the order recommended on the official wiki site (fire imp/skale/gargoyle)? I think the gw.gameswiki site order is a typo. Starting with the skale makes it much more difficult than it has to be. Once I realized that and changed the order (to fire imp/skale/gargoyle), I defeated Plurgg easily.
Trelliz
I'm stuck on fonk, the first time was the easiest ironically, i got through to the wind rider, but was puzzled as my fire imp (as directed by most websites and guides) got whupped. why use it? i know that meteor is a good skill, but as i can't dodge the wind rider i have to stand there and take it while it recharges.
wolf-rayet
I've heard ppl say that the easiest way to beat polymock is simply to get 3 gold polymock pieces. Do you still have to use a BIG strategy or is it simply the overwelming HP advantage? And which three would be the best choice? I have the gold fire piece atm. 
S_Serpent
I've only gotten the stone rain gold piece (lucky to have found it in dungeon) and used two purple ones that was enough to get over and done with.
To me it was a breeze after, doing it normal with my ping was just not possible!
And the foes cheat!
Stone rain has good skill to disable glyphs
To me it was a breeze after, doing it normal with my ping was just not possible!
And the foes cheat!
Stone rain has good skill to disable glyphs
MoriaOrc
For me, only the third opponent was difficult. Once I managed to get past him with the pieces available, the rest of it was a breeze. And if you get some extra help, I'm sure it's even easier.
Edgar The Crosseyed
i still need to do polymock as well :S
Thierry2
Polymock is very easy no need to buy gold pieces... If you can't do it yourself then use the guide on wiki.
FXCW
I used this guide, there is no need to buy gold polymock pieces.
Pick Me
That guide on Polymock on Guildwiki seems nice. I never read it when I beat it 3 times.
Yes, first skill used by any enemy is Glyph of Concentration.
I use my most powerful skill right off the bat (2 second casting). By the time I'm done, the enemy will try to interupt me, but about .25 seconds (guessing) too late. My spell is off and he just wasted an interupt.
I never found any golds, never bought a gold and even though I beat it with my monk then transfered the given gold to my rit, my rit nevered needed to use it at all.
I find that dodge and blocking only 1 specific spell is key. Never use hexes on a monk.
I still have no other gold except the one I won for beating the tournament, so I can't help you with what golds are good.
Yes, first skill used by any enemy is Glyph of Concentration.
I use my most powerful skill right off the bat (2 second casting). By the time I'm done, the enemy will try to interupt me, but about .25 seconds (guessing) too late. My spell is off and he just wasted an interupt.
I never found any golds, never bought a gold and even though I beat it with my monk then transfered the given gold to my rit, my rit nevered needed to use it at all.
I find that dodge and blocking only 1 specific spell is key. Never use hexes on a monk.
I still have no other gold except the one I won for beating the tournament, so I can't help you with what golds are good.
achiles the mermedon
I am trying to decide which one I should buy.
Could you please give me some suggestions which one and if possible
what you think would be the expected expense?
Thank you.
Could you please give me some suggestions which one and if possible
what you think would be the expected expense?
Thank you.
LordOfTheSquids
i have always liked the naga shaman the best. I bought it for around 15k, most good gold pieces go for around that price.
N1ghtstalker
i did it with a mursaat polymock peace
he's one of the best
that or the ruby djinn
he's one of the best
that or the ruby djinn
Sir Owns Alot EP
Buying Polmock pieces is a waste of money, it is relativley easy to complete all the Polymock quests with the pieces you are given.
Hodgie
Gaki FTW
Managed to beat all opponants with it dying once (except on the last guy lol) so yeah Gaki is best imho.
Managed to beat all opponants with it dying once (except on the last guy
SnipiousMax
It is entirely possible to beat each of the quests with white and purple pieces... Is there one in particular you are having trouble with?
Richardt
Like others have said, you can beat Polymock pretty easily without buying anything extra.
However if you must buy one, I would recommend the Naga Shaman. Got this in a drop, and been cleaning house with it.
However if you must buy one, I would recommend the Naga Shaman. Got this in a drop, and been cleaning house with it.
achiles the mermedon
I know there was a thread about how to beat this @#$%@# little game.
Anyone remember in what section?
Thanks
Anyone remember in what section?
Thanks
natural_Causes
Buy a gold piece. GG
TrippieHippie89
i used the suggestions on the wiki page...but buying a ruby djinn would let you mow through everything with your eyes closed
greyhawk
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Polymock
this is a good guide to beat polymock.
it isnt that hard of a side game if you int the right things.
this is a good guide to beat polymock.
it isnt that hard of a side game if you int the right things.
Lady Lozza
And have a decent ping.
With a ping of 200-500 you should be able to beat the first 3 without needing to buy pieces, which as far as I can tell, aren't all that common.
With a ping of 200-500 you should be able to beat the first 3 without needing to buy pieces, which as far as I can tell, aren't all that common.
N1ghtstalker
i bought a gold piece
but nobody really plays it
if you get a gold piece from a dungeon you'd be lucky to find a buyer
when i finished i had the mirage iboga wich i couldn't get sold
all poly's i won ended up in my trashcan, just deleted them
i won all games with a mursaat piece wich rly rocked :P
but nobody really plays it
if you get a gold piece from a dungeon you'd be lucky to find a buyer
when i finished i had the mirage iboga wich i couldn't get sold
all poly's i won ended up in my trashcan, just deleted them
i won all games with a mursaat piece wich rly rocked :P
Mad King Corn
I had an extremely difficult time with polymock until I bought Gold pieces. I bought Stone Rain, Ruby Jin and Mirage Ibogia.
At first I bought Mirage and was able to beat Plurgg, I had trouble and bought Ruby, got past trouble. Finally on the last one, sandstorm was wiping me out no matter what build I used, so I bought Stone Rain and breezed through sandstorm.
With my lag, I decided it was far better to spend some virtual cash instead of going crazy trying to defeat them. I wish I could get my Ruby Jin and Stone Rain back to use with another character, but they are lost forever when u register them.
At first I bought Mirage and was able to beat Plurgg, I had trouble and bought Ruby, got past trouble. Finally on the last one, sandstorm was wiping me out no matter what build I used, so I bought Stone Rain and breezed through sandstorm.
With my lag, I decided it was far better to spend some virtual cash instead of going crazy trying to defeat them. I wish I could get my Ruby Jin and Stone Rain back to use with another character, but they are lost forever when u register them.
wesman
ok if there are hundreds of posts like this I would not be surprised... anyhow got the first two fellows beat and now I am trying to get blarp but his earth ele is just killing me... so far I have gotten all down to the last one with only 1/4 health, but then I get killed. Oh well I am trying to see if I can buy a gold polymock piece but not having much success. So is it me or is this quest insanely hard?
KoleAurow 23
If you have 20k, get your hands on a ruby djinn piece...
Kyomi Tachibana
It's not all that difficult with the normal pieces, just learn to save your interrupts for the right time and when to block, and how to dodge projectiles.
Or go ahead and waste 20k on something you'll never use again.
Or go ahead and waste 20k on something you'll never use again.
Rampager
its you, was able to do it after many tries with 500+ ping
KoleAurow 23
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Originally Posted by Kyomi Tachibana
It's not all that difficult with the normal pieces, just learn to save your interrupts for the right time and when to block, and how to dodge projectiles.
Or go ahead and waste 20k on something you'll never use again. Im just saying, if he/she cant beat it with normal pieces, I bet they can beat it with a ruby djinn
Or go ahead and waste 20k on something you'll never use again. Im just saying, if he/she cant beat it with normal pieces, I bet they can beat it with a ruby djinn