Consumable Petition
ChoKILLate[FDG]
There is one thing I have been wanting since April Fool's and I was wondering if Anet could possibly add it to GWEN as a consumable.
I would like the option to change the sex of one's character, like how they did in LA during April Fools weekend. After seeing certain armors, I now wished I had made a male Dervish over a female one...and visa versa for other characters. Could this be made possible with a consumable? If so, I know that it would be a pretty popular consumable.
Another possible consumable would be the abilty to just change your character's facial features some, like the eye color or hair color. Ex.) My female ele has red hair which looks good with the 15k air armor dyed red when I originally made her 2+ years ago, but not when it is dyed blue or with other newer armor types. Could a consumable be made to allow small alterations in the face or would this idea be too hard to implement?
Definately think the first one is possible though!
I would like the option to change the sex of one's character, like how they did in LA during April Fools weekend. After seeing certain armors, I now wished I had made a male Dervish over a female one...and visa versa for other characters. Could this be made possible with a consumable? If so, I know that it would be a pretty popular consumable.
Another possible consumable would be the abilty to just change your character's facial features some, like the eye color or hair color. Ex.) My female ele has red hair which looks good with the 15k air armor dyed red when I originally made her 2+ years ago, but not when it is dyed blue or with other newer armor types. Could a consumable be made to allow small alterations in the face or would this idea be too hard to implement?
Definately think the first one is possible though!
tyche7
/signed
I like it
I like it
darktyco
Yeah, it would be great for players, and it would be an easy way for ANet to create some gold sinks.
SotiCoto
/notsigned
And wrong board.
Your GW character is not a shapeshifter. They should not be able to change gender or bodily appearance at will.
If you want a male dervish rather than a female then make a new one and start over.
And wrong board.
Your GW character is not a shapeshifter. They should not be able to change gender or bodily appearance at will.
If you want a male dervish rather than a female then make a new one and start over.
R!ghteous Ind!gnation
interesting thought
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
/notsigned
And wrong board. Your GW character is not a shapeshifter. They should not be able to change gender or bodily appearance at will. If you want a male dervish rather than a female then make a new one and start over. |
Heard of Transmogrifier Tonic? Yuletide Tonic? Everlasting Beetle Juice Tonic?
GW is a fanstasy game, for Dwayna's sake!
The fact Anet did this randomly as an April Fool's joke already makes your argument moot. Lighten up and have some fun. This could easily be a "Fooled You!" Tonic or something of the sort.
/signed (could be permanent, like Everlasting Beetle Juice Tonic)
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Everl...le_Juice_Tonic
Floski
People who don't want this are really sad. It wouldn't really affect the economy since they aren't drops, just consumables. It doesn't affect rarity/value of anything. It doesn't affect gameplay since nothing in the game depends on sex/appearance. Anyone who doesn't /sign is pretty sad.
Arkantos
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Your GW character is not a shapeshifter. They should not be able to change gender or bodily appearance at will. |
Seriously, what is wrong with this idea? If someone wants to change their gender/appearence in a fantasy game, let them. It's not going to have any affect.
I personally wouldn't mind this, my male monk is ugly, and looked mych better on April 1st.
okashii
it will only be a matter of time :
"Welcome to Asuran beauty saloon, what would you like ?"
- " yes...here's 100K and 50ecto, now make my breasts even bigger :P "
"Welcome to Asuran beauty saloon, what would you like ?"
- " yes...here's 100K and 50ecto, now make my breasts even bigger :P "
ReVel4tion
*signed
after seeing all the rit female armor, i keep wishing my rit isn't male
*snippity snip*
after seeing all the rit female armor, i keep wishing my rit isn't male
*snippity snip*
willypiggy
Changeable hair, i like the idea of this, maybe not design but deffinatley have a person selling hair dye. I dont like the idea of being able to change from male to female. if you think about it, all the other transformations have a reason, this would jsut be there cos people want to look different, the others are for fun!
WinterSnowblind
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
/notsigned
And wrong board. Your GW character is not a shapeshifter. They should not be able to change gender or bodily appearance at will. If you want a male dervish rather than a female then make a new one and start over. |
What's the problem with someone being able to edit their character? Some of us made them over two years ago now and tastes change. I used to think long hair looked really cool, for example, thus my warrior has long hair. Two years later, I really wish he could have a shorter style, and maybe a slightly older appearence. A little taller.
What's the problem with someone being able to do that? Like was said this is a fantasy game. Far more illogical things happen during the game, I don't think it's too far fetched to say there's a way your characters appearance could change a little. Completely restarting my Warrior who is now over two years old and has many titles, weapons and armour is out of the question. We should not have to reroll just to change a hairstyle, or height or even the sex.
Even if it's not a feature you would use, I see nothing wrong with adding these kinds of features. /signed.
boxterduke
I'm not in for the sex change, it sounds to weird to me, also would be funny to see a male warrior named goddess of war. lol
But I'm in for a hairstylist and have no idea why anet has not implemented that yet.
But I'm in for a hairstylist and have no idea why anet has not implemented that yet.
thezed
/not signed for the sex change
/singed for consumable to change hair color/style and other facial features
/singed for consumable to change hair color/style and other facial features
FelixCarter
The sex changer would be a little odd... Maybe a consumable that allows you to change sex in a town, outpost, or PvE area.
/Signed for both anyways.
ANet should have really added a feature where you could change the appearance of a character you've already created...
But this is just not going to happen, methinks.
/Signed for both anyways.
ANet should have really added a feature where you could change the appearance of a character you've already created...
But this is just not going to happen, methinks.
Floski
How can you be for one and not the other? Is it the whole "sex change" part that makes you go ick? That's pretty dumb.
Mineria
/Not signed
Suggestion is against the basic principals of RPG.
PS. In GW2 you might ask for something that can change your race as well....
Suggestion is against the basic principals of RPG.
PS. In GW2 you might ask for something that can change your race as well....
FelixCarter
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Originally Posted by Mineria
/Not signed
Suggestion is against the basic principals of RPG. PS. In GW2 you might ask for something that can change your race as well.... |
Elf Tonic hits you with ignorance!
The attack is super effective!
Mineria fainted!
In all seriousness, though... Elf Tonics and Rollerbeatle Tonics would be against the "basic principals of RPG" then.
ChoKILLate[FDG]
The reason I don't just delete this character for new character of the opposite sex is because I have maxed 13 titles on this character. I value the time and effort I put into this character, but I prefer how the armor looks on the male character...especially the newer ones.
Even the Primeval armor which is identical, looks a bit better on a male due to the way there stance. As others have said, this does not affect anyone other than the owner of the character, so why not?!
Even the Primeval armor which is identical, looks a bit better on a male due to the way there stance. As others have said, this does not affect anyone other than the owner of the character, so why not?!
Mineria
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Originally Posted by FelixCarter
In all seriousness, though... Elf Tonics and Rollerbeatle Tonics would be against the "basic principals of RPG" then.
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Arkantos
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PS. In GW2 you might ask for something that can change your race as well.... |
Gender does not affect gameplay at all. A male warrior can do anything a female warrior can do and vice versa.
MithranArkanere
It could be a funny 1st April consumable, there could be two versions, one than changes your gender for 50 minutes, and one that changes target gender 5 minutes.
FelixCarter
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Originally Posted by Mineria
Yes, if the tonics have a permanent effect.
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If you have a website your getting this "principal" from, then please post it.
If you got this from one of your DnD books, then all I can give you in response is a "wow".
If you pulling this out of the magical land that lives somewhere in your butt, then keep it to yourself.
Having people be able to change their appearance isn't going to make your Ogre-Slaying Knife with +9 versus Ogres stop rolling 1d4 damage.
/Signed again.
Kale Ironfist
Wasn't there a post saying that they couldn't do this? April Fools didn't actually change your character at all, it just told the client to display the opposite gender in certain towns.
darkknightkain
How about this?
Reincarnation Potion
- reset your level to lv1, (may be also eliminate your /death counter?)
- lets you re-select your face/hair/skin/height again
- replace your armours with the starter armours
- teleports you to the starting outpost (ie. Ascalon, Sheng Jea, Kamadan)
- locks out all your map outposts until you revisit them again
- locks out all your elite skills until you learn them again or reach level 20
How is that different from delete-and-recreate character...
- don't need to re-grind sunspear points
- continue getting birthday presents
Reincarnation Potion
- reset your level to lv1, (may be also eliminate your /death counter?)
- lets you re-select your face/hair/skin/height again
- replace your armours with the starter armours
- teleports you to the starting outpost (ie. Ascalon, Sheng Jea, Kamadan)
- locks out all your map outposts until you revisit them again
- locks out all your elite skills until you learn them again or reach level 20
How is that different from delete-and-recreate character...
- don't need to re-grind sunspear points
- continue getting birthday presents
Mineria
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Originally Posted by FelixCarter
What do you have? A big book of "basic principals of RPGs 101"?
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At that point you already know that this is your final choice for that character.
Which means you should look at all the options you got before making it final.
This reminds me a lot about when some asked for sex/class changes on the WoW EU forums. Never gonna happen.
Just look at it as that your character is unique from the day it is born.
Everyone is used to its appearance, even you, so why do you want to change that in the first place?
For the armor justification, why not wiki them up before making your choice?
Ive seen a lot of players asking others "which armor is cool?", don't people got their own opinion/taste?
I mean, you got all armor sets displayed for each class/sex, it isn't any harder then take a look at them and decide which one you like.
And I think that arena.net want to keep some of the key elements of rpg as well.
Lineage II has some portions that can change your hairstyle, but people are not always happy with the outcome. Not sure if its random generated there.
Changing the sex of your character may conflict with its name as well.
Name changing will not be allowed, first of all to prevent scammers etc. from changing them, and the other thing is that names are reserved for your characters for GW2.
PS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game
Friar Khan
/signed
I don't really care how they do it, but I'm in favor of character appearance editing options. Personally I'd probably only change a few hairstyles and that's it.
Also a nice idea, expecially nice for people who'd like to get a title like survivor for their character that existed before PvE titles. I'm not sure that they could manage the coding. It's a tall order and if there are errors with it people will be very unhappy. If they would add something like this, I'd prefer for all my armors to just be locked out until I'm lvl 20, since some of them may be expensive.
Okay I disagree with you on several points here:
1) Most importantly the "basic principals of RPG" argument that you're defending is based on convention alone. While it's true that most RPGs may not offer much in the way of character editing that doesn't mean that a new RPG has to stick with that convention. It's not like they'll ruin the game if they break a minor convention or two. GW breaks a big convention already in the fact that you can change your character's attributes as many times as you want. They chose to break that convention for good reason. Whether or not they feel the appearance editing is also a good convention to break is up to them, but I'm sure there's some people that haven't bought GWEN yet that would do so if that was the only way to gain access to a hairstylist/appearance editing npc. So that's a pretty good reason to add an appearance editing npc, I think the only decent reason not to add appearance editing is because other things may be of higher priority.
2) Real people are unique from the day they're born too and yet people still change hair styles from time to time. Facial/gender changes are less casual in real life, but for a fantasy game like GW I don't think it's such a serious issue.
3) Sometimes people's tastes change. Even if they liked the look years ago, they could easily prefer a different look now.
4) For people that'd like to change sexes now that they've seen the armor you say that they should have wiki'd the armors before creating a character. However it took a few months after Factions came out before wiki had all the Factions armors. Wiki servers used to be unreliable so often you couldn't check wiki as conveniently as you can now. Since the person who said he'd rather have a female Rt probably created theirs before wiki was as useful as it is now then he didn't have the luxury of informing his decision with it.
5) In Lineage 2 the potions are error prone, that's what people complain about. I don't blame them.
As far as name changing I think you make a decent point. People with gender specific names may be out of luck.
I don't really care how they do it, but I'm in favor of character appearance editing options. Personally I'd probably only change a few hairstyles and that's it.
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Originally Posted by darkknightkain
How about this?
Reincarnation Potion - reset your level to lv1, (may be also eliminate your /death counter?) - lets you re-select your face/hair/skin/height again - replace your armours with the starter armours - teleports you to the starting outpost (ie. Ascalon, Sheng Jea, Kamadan) - locks out all your map outposts until you revisit them again - locks out all your elite skills until you learn them again or reach level 20 How is that different from delete-and-recreate character... - don't need to re-grind sunspear points - continue getting birthday presents |
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Originally Posted by Mineria
When you start the game you are presented with a character sheet, from which you select class, sex and look.
At that point you already know that this is your final choice for that character. Which means you should look at all the options you got before making it final. This reminds me a lot about when some asked for sex/class changes on the WoW EU forums. Never gonna happen. Just look at it as that your character is unique from the day it is born. Everyone is used to its appearance, even you, so why do you want to change that in the first place? For the armor justification, why not wiki them up before making your choice? Ive seen a lot of players asking others "which armor is cool?", don't people got their own opinion/taste? I mean, you got all armor sets displayed for each class/sex, it isn't any harder then take a look at them and decide which one you like. And I think that arena.net want to keep some of the key elements of rpg as well. Lineage II has some portions that can change your hairstyle, but people are not always happy with the outcome. Not sure if its random generated there. Changing the sex of your character may conflict with its name as well. Name changing will not be allowed, first of all to prevent scammers etc. from changing them, and the other thing is that names are reserved for your characters for GW2. PS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game |
1) Most importantly the "basic principals of RPG" argument that you're defending is based on convention alone. While it's true that most RPGs may not offer much in the way of character editing that doesn't mean that a new RPG has to stick with that convention. It's not like they'll ruin the game if they break a minor convention or two. GW breaks a big convention already in the fact that you can change your character's attributes as many times as you want. They chose to break that convention for good reason. Whether or not they feel the appearance editing is also a good convention to break is up to them, but I'm sure there's some people that haven't bought GWEN yet that would do so if that was the only way to gain access to a hairstylist/appearance editing npc. So that's a pretty good reason to add an appearance editing npc, I think the only decent reason not to add appearance editing is because other things may be of higher priority.
2) Real people are unique from the day they're born too and yet people still change hair styles from time to time. Facial/gender changes are less casual in real life, but for a fantasy game like GW I don't think it's such a serious issue.
3) Sometimes people's tastes change. Even if they liked the look years ago, they could easily prefer a different look now.
4) For people that'd like to change sexes now that they've seen the armor you say that they should have wiki'd the armors before creating a character. However it took a few months after Factions came out before wiki had all the Factions armors. Wiki servers used to be unreliable so often you couldn't check wiki as conveniently as you can now. Since the person who said he'd rather have a female Rt probably created theirs before wiki was as useful as it is now then he didn't have the luxury of informing his decision with it.
5) In Lineage 2 the potions are error prone, that's what people complain about. I don't blame them.
As far as name changing I think you make a decent point. People with gender specific names may be out of luck.
The Little Viking
I like the idea myself. Someone mentioned were not shape shifters...oh well....call it a sex change operation and plastic surgery then.
gremlin
Oh just find a friendly armorer to make you some female armor
I stand by your right to be a woman/man
or as they put it in a popular movie
Judith: [on Stan's desire to be a mother] Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.
support the idea of cosmetic character changes hair colour bead shaven head etc, if its not too much of a hassle.
Changing the characters sex well just have the potions turn up at all festivals if they are so popular.
character name might be another stumbling block though.
I stand by your right to be a woman/man
or as they put it in a popular movie
Judith: [on Stan's desire to be a mother] Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.
support the idea of cosmetic character changes hair colour bead shaven head etc, if its not too much of a hassle.
Changing the characters sex well just have the potions turn up at all festivals if they are so popular.
character name might be another stumbling block though.
draxynnic
Well, at the very least...
Hairstyles should be modifiable. I mean, Prophecies characters have theoretically been around for eight years (EOTN is three years after Nightfall, which is three years after Prophecies and Factions, which are two years after the Searing). I'm not going to say most people, but certainly a lot of people are going to change their hairstyles over close to a decade.
Hairstyles should be modifiable. I mean, Prophecies characters have theoretically been around for eight years (EOTN is three years after Nightfall, which is three years after Prophecies and Factions, which are two years after the Searing). I'm not going to say most people, but certainly a lot of people are going to change their hairstyles over close to a decade.