W/Me Uw Solo V2 [axe+sword] - Mass Aggro Fun (12-15min Run)

Spets_Naz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

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can anyone make me a sugestion on alternetive skills for the factions skills used in the build? i was thinking that since i'm gonna loose attack power using the dolyak sig replacing the tripple chop and using arcane thievery for the visage that i can't have! i'm open to sugestions since i can't really farm that much with my ele on uw! eotn norn or whatever skills could be usefull! and sword version is out of my plans. i still don't have the skills and i still don't have any good sword.
tips would be helpfull tks ppl

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Hmmm if you cant use 2 visages then this wont work for you sorry

Spets_Naz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

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damn its getting difficult for me to farm! tks man i like the way you farm though!

tarka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Hey, PAIN, i have followed your build exactly to the "T" with axe and it works perfectly. Everytime, unless i F** up, hehe, anyone having problems with it just needs to practice more. It does take time. You need to learn the coldfire patrol routes e.t.c and remember them. Eventually you will figure out your own smite farm route wich works best and safest for you.
Biggest problem is that it is very unprofitable. I did 5 runs in a row last night and didnt get a single Ecto! And ive just done 3 more with none. Thats 8 duff runs. And as for mass kill = lower drops, well thats poo! Ive tried both ways many times and it makes no difference.
But WHERE R ALL THE ECTO??????
P.S great job PAIN, works perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tarka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ive just done another 5 runs and guess what......NO ECTO! The build works great but to be honest, im really bored of doing it now and without ecto's its pointless.

tarka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Yup, it certainly seems nefed but not in a way that you cant do it anymore. It seems that if you go in there as a solo warrior it screems "dont drop ecto's!!!!!!!!!!"

Oblivious Moose

Oblivious Moose

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Sinister Swarm [Sin]

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i feel your pain, i did over 50 uw runs with no ecto's when i tried this build. on the bright side, i did it like 2 weeks ago, and got 1 ecto.. just 1 run.. 1 ecto..

i demand anet give me something for my efforts.

tarka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Okay, well, i think it may well have been nerfed after all. For the last 2 days every now and then a group of coldfires will just stop patroling and stand still blocking the way. Only thing you can do is agro them and hope you get away, then they start patroling again. But its rare to escape. I dont know if this is a new thing as im new to UW farming but it didnt happen once for the last 2 weeks. Also, another 5 runs with no Ecto's. Thats 18k on runs with nothing and not even covering entrance either. End of days for me i think :O((

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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So I heard drops were random.
Yes/No?
I also heard that ecto drops are random, and have a low probability.
Is this true? Are they rare?

I would just take a long/flatbow and fire an arrow at the coldfires if they become stuck. Start moving the opposite direction of your arrow as soon as it leaves your bow, and you'll break aggro easily.

terminator

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

W/Mo

hey, first run i done i got 2 ectos! gr8 build!!!!!

eiri yuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Aphx

W/Mo

i'm having problems with the graspings at the start, i keep dying, so i rechecked the video and saw they deal 0 dmg to you, and to me they deal 14 dmg. so if anyone know how to do it without dying please tell me

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

acauly they deal aound 5-15 dmg to me too XD

unless if i panic and switch to physical resistance/zealous

eiri yuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Aphx

W/Mo

wich rank in sunspear do you atleast have to be to do this than?

Bukaj

Bukaj

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Czech Republic

World Runner [RUN]

Because each rank add 1-2 points dmg more, it doesn't matter much. You can easily get rank 6 if you have non NF character, so this will be ok.

eiri yuki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Aphx

W/Mo

ok, so i still keep dying, if anyone is kind enough to show me the run in total i'd apreciate it a lot, i ofcourse will pay the entree fee.

IGN: Hell The Haus

tarka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Well, i eat my words. Ovr this weekend the drops have been SUPERB!!! Im getting 2 or 3 Ecto's per run, plus keys plus passage scrolls and golds. Im also covering my entrance easily and there are chests everywhere!
To be honest sooo many peeps have been moning about the poor drops it wouldnt surprise me if ANET hase made a few adjustments.
As for the peeps who still cant do it, simply follow ALL of PAINS instructions on the first page of this thread and then all you need is practice and patience.

tarka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

P.S dont feel no pain IS the man!!!! Well done mate :O)

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

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A little late bumpage but well worth it just to say that it is still working like a charm down in the underworld.

I still cant beat that 9 minute run but i will continue to try and the drops are fantastic, specialy over the last couple of weeks? has everyone stopped farming this it feels like i am the only one there some days.

Dakota

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon

W/E

This build is great i made 7 ectos in 45 mins i think i was lucky 4 ectos in 1 run :P

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Yup, still works like a charm. I get about 2 globs per run in average but take slightly longer as the drops are better when you kill smaller groups and, of course, when there's fewer people farming in the region.

Murmel

Murmel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Land of Confusion

[swea]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keneth
Yup, still works like a charm. I get about 2 globs per run in average but take slightly longer as the drops are better when you kill smaller groups and, of course, when there's fewer people farming in the region. O.o, maybe I should start from Zin Ku or the one in NF instead hehe(if it's not the Underworld itself that's screwing it up) anyway, this seems like a nice build, but since I don't have the right insignas/weapons I usually die at the grasps hehe

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keneth
of course, when there's fewer people farming in the region. Please stop with that crap urban legends.
Monsters have a fixed drop rate, get it?

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Actually they're not "urban legends", on European servers the drop rates drop substantially in the evening and on weekends as far as common farming areas are concerned. It might not seem like much with items that have a generally small drop rate to begin with but the difference is more than obvious if you farm something more common. Good luck farming something on event days when the servers are full.

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

I'm farming UW solo all the time. Didn't notice any diffrence during the weekend. Obviously your claims make no sense. A monster has a fixed rate of droping certain items, for the sake of argument lets say smite has a 2% chance of dropping ecto, that's it. There is nothing more to it, why would they implement some ridiculous complicated mechanism?

Keneth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Because Arena.net are infernal spawns of evil and they want us to suffer.

Finn Family

Finn Family

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

finn family

W/R

i always die becose there is not any heal skill so
may you get nice build whit heal in it ^_^ thx .

snodaard

snodaard

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Holland

[Uni]

Mo/

you don't need healing if you use the build right. otherwise you should go W/Rt wich is alot more easy..

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

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Yeah if you are dying you are not using the right equipment /setup because you should be taking a very small ammount of damage and should not need a healing skill although lions comfort was the healing skill of choice at some point, just replace an attack skill with that...

Finn Family

Finn Family

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

finn family

W/R

i will try it again .. if it doesn't work i'll try w/rit .

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

nice to see the old thread is alive

gameprins

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

didn't join one

W/E

sorry that i don't get it, some noob questions of me
how come their damage is so low?
is it just because you have a high armour against physical (PR)?
don't they have spells or something? Are UW monsters really that weak???

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gameprins
sorry that i don't get it, some noob questions of me
how come their damage is so low?
is it just because you have a high armour against physical (PR)?
don't they have spells or something? Are UW monsters really that weak??? Yes, it's because warriors have the highest armor against Physical damage. On top of that 116 inherent armor, you have -8 absorption from every hit with Knight's insignia, Superior Absorption, and the shield. Then add +40 more armor from [[Physical Resistance], and an optional +7 from a shelter mod, and you take very little damage. All the foes that you target deal physical damage with their attacks. The Visage skills are used to drain the energy from the smites so they can't use their spells. It's not that the monsters are weak; Warriors just have an unmatched advantage versus physical foes, and this build is further designed to increase that advantage.

Actually, I suppose one could argue correctly that those foes do indeed have many weaknesses to exploit.

TripleCow

TripleCow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Flaming Rage of Cantha [FROC]

W/Mo

great build, gj on it. its nice to see that i'm finally getting ectos again. i think the only problem i'm having still is trying not to agrro those stupid coldfire patrols.

also, for all those ppl with bad luck out there, a-net should have it so that if you end up doing 40 failed runs and only get one ecto, you should get points toward your unlucky title track.

too bad they don't update the game anymore

MisterT69

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TripleCow
great build, gj on it. its nice to see that i'm finally getting ectos again. i think the only problem i'm having still is trying not to agrro those stupid coldfire patrols.

also, for all those ppl with bad luck out there, a-net should have it so that if you end up doing 40 failed runs and only get one ecto, you should get points toward your unlucky title track.

too bad they don't update the game anymore It's not as much bad luck as it is chance. IF smite crawlers truly have a 2% drops rate, consider the chances of having EVERY smite drop ecto during a run. In theory you could get 30+ ecto in that run, but again, the odds are pretty astronomical XD.

dahammerman

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

I can't freaking do it, I seem to have all the reqs. but I die on those damn smites, I used to not die, but now I constantly die.

Maybe it's because im only fighting 3 at a time?

Rezolve

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

did u use physical resistance? the smites do 0 and 3's on me

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yes. It's in the OP.

snoozer80

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Poland

For Your Entertainment [FYE]

I did about 10 runs yesterday - 9 ecto, 1 ruby, 3 or 4 phantom keys, few golds and 1 blacj dye ^^

Cool build but my runs still take about 24 mins cuz i kill each group of simites separatelly.

boarderx

boarderx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[PIG]

i hit a new record for me the other day

8mins (i dont know what the record is but i like beating my own record ) i had a chance at another 8min run but i caught coldfire aggro and still had a 9-10min run, ima fan of this build, too bad smites dont drop ectos like they used to.